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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby mcfc1632 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:25 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
Kiss_The_Goat wrote:
edge275 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:At last, I've not seen a Robbie thread for nearly a week!!!

Well, a little info straight from the horses mouth, with words to the effect:

Robbie is going nowhere, and I mean nowhere. He is pivotal to City's growth and he is very happy to be a part of our club. The media have tried to stir it up with the most expensive player in the Prem and seem to have a fascination with trying to push him away from the club. Is it jealousy, people trying to cause disharmony or just filling papers, I'm not sure, but I have my thoughts!

And if this guy is lying to me, I may as well quit being a City fan right now!!!


Who said that and what source?


That was pretty much what Cook and Hughes both said yesterday. So why do people take an trashy article, written by a rag, with no quotes, apart from Hughes' reiterating the fact that he's going nowhere, seriously?? Its a load of paper bollocks , AGAIN!, so chill the fuck out.

Correct!



There does not seem to be a need for the rag loving press to jump on the bandwagon of bollocks stories to sow discontent amongst CITY fans - we have a few 'with and agenda' amongst our midst to do that.

You might think that CITY fans would put more store by what the Chairman, Chief Exec, Manager and player(s) of our club say than these totally rag infested journos - but these silly few do not because it does not suit their agenda(s) - on the early page of this thread that is to try and introduce some 'blame' on Hughes - use this 'incredibly significant piece of evidence' to substantiate claims that Hughes cannot manage big name players etc

My personal agenda is the good of CITY and this creates a secondary agenda which is against things that are against CITY - amazing how much of that you see peddled on here
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:03 pm

Interesting development from the mouth of Santa Cruz. Proper quotes too.

Roque Santa Cruz admits that his Manchester City team-mate Robinho talks openly about wanting to play for Barcelona.
Paraguay striker Santa Cruz says the transfer tug of war is the talk of the Eastlands dressing room.

And the City players can't resist teasing the Brazil international about his mooted move to the Nou Camp.

'Of course he talks to us about it,' Santa Cruz told Catalunya Radio. 'And the players are cracking jokes about it in the dressing room.

'In the English papers there's a lot of interest about Barca and Robinho is also not hiding his desire to play for them one day. But I guess we'll see.'

Barca are keen to sign Robinho in January, but an initial loan deal favoured by Nou Camp boss Pep Guardiola is unlikely to be welcomed by either the 25-year-old or City.

Mark Hughes has repeatedly insisted that his £34million British-record signing from Real Madrid is happy and not for sale.

But Santa Cruz, an £18m summer signing from Blackburn Rovers, believes Robinho would have no problem fitting in among Barca's glittering cast of stars.

'It wouldn't be difficult (for him),' said the 28-year-old. 'To add a talent like Robinho to the quality of players they have would give a different air to Barca because he's got great ability and is a player who pleases crowds because of the way he plays.

'A player that good wouldn't have any problems being part of that side

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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby Socrates » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:01 pm

paulmclaren wrote:content removed by WW


Please someone tell me when this person has been banned, meantime I'm not interested in this place anymore.
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby Burt » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:05 pm

Socrates wrote:
paulmclaren wrote:content removed by WW


Please someone tell me when this person has been banned, meantime I'm not interested in this place anymore.


Don't think that it will take too long mate.

What a tosser!
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby Socrates » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:17 pm

Unbelievable Burt, even by his standards.

Well done Bob, glad you removed it.
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby Socrates » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:23 pm

mcfc1632 wrote:
Socrates wrote:
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CITYTILLIDIE11 wrote:The Hounds will be out in a minute.

They are so touchy about anything that suggests Hughes is the problem.


Where does it suggest Hughes is the problem?
Perhaps the reason everyone is so touchy is because you make everything out to be Hughes' fault?

If the club have denied it then that's enough for me. This is getting more boring than when tranaldo was constantly linked to Real.


here...
but the manager may have contributed to Robinho's unhappiness by disbanding the small but influential group of Brazilian players that he regarded as cliquish and undermining his authority.



Disappointed in you Soc - your anti Hughes stuff is normally several levels above the gutter that the small minority wallow in

The question was - where does it say it is Hughes's fault?

The quote given is entirely different speaking of contribution - well so are many things - but would you as a CITY fan believe that we should play elano, jo, berti and tom, dick and harry just to make one player feel at home? would you do that if you were the manager?

Even if there is credence in the Guardian article which is mainly just rehash - now that would be something that was Hughes fault if it had been allowed.

'Cos then what - should we only make a polite request for a game when the sun shines - only train indoor at health spas etc - because then that would be really Hughes fault

Of course the answer is no - because that would be just pathetic - but no more than pathetic than trying to use this non-story to bash Hughes

Some of the anti Hughes crowd on here are just pathetic muppets clearly more out of personal games than debate - don't lower yourself to their level mate


Only just saw this so sorry for delay replying. Didn't even bother re-visiting this thread as I wasn't joining the debate, merely answering someone's question, i.e. "where does it say...!!"
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby Mr Miyagi » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:04 pm

Whassat wrote: Nonetheless, they do not consider Robinho indispensable when they have Craig Bellamy and Martin Petrov to play the same position on the left side of attack


Nearly spat my drink out at that bit... classic bit of doublepseak....
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:22 pm

Mr Miyagi wrote:
Whassat wrote: Nonetheless, they do not consider Robinho indispensable when they have Craig Bellamy and Martin Petrov to play the same position on the left side of attack


Nearly spat my drink out at that bit... classic bit of doublepseak....

I;m having that one as well ;-)
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:44 pm

Socrates wrote:Unbelievable Burt, even by his standards.

Well done Bob, glad you removed it.

Eh, what did I miss? PM me if possible!
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby ashton287 » Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:56 pm

im refusing to read the posts on here PAPERS our liars city not being able to keep there biggest signing happy is what every supporter of every other team wants to read so that why they print them WE NEED HIM, HE'S UNDER CONTRACT AND HE WONT BE GOING NOWHERE UNTIL WE HAVE GOT A REPLACMENT barca dont have enough money to force us to sell with a huge bid so fuuuuuuuuuuuuk thiiiiiiiiis story and any other story about him leaving cos if it ever happend we wouldnt need him by that time

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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:01 pm

ashton287 wrote:im refusing to read the posts on here PAPERS our liars city not being able to keep there biggest signing happy is what every supporter of every other team wants to read so that why they print them WE NEED HIM, HE'S UNDER CONTRACT AND HE WONT BE GOING NOWHERE UNTIL WE HAVE GOT A REPLACMENT barca dont have enough money to force us to sell with a huge bid so fuuuuuuuuuuuuk thiiiiiiiiis story and any other story about him leaving cos if it ever happend we wouldnt need him by that time

SIIK OF READING THIS RUBBISH

Stinks mate, and you are right, it's what every other team wants and that's why they write it!
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby john@staustell » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:48 am

When it's in the Barcelona papers it often comes from sources within the club, or related to Robbie's sources. They dont really make Barca stuff up like the English press do.

This story is just making too much noise. Not arsed either way myself, but something is stirring in the air. If he does leave I'm sure we'll get a great replacement. I posted Ollie Holt's article yesterday in the other thread, which I think is pretty revealing. (He was out with us in AD). I know he's with the Mirror but worth a read:

"The irony is, I’m not even sure he’ll get back into the City team when he’s fit again. He’s getting awfully close to being surplus to requirements"

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion ... 24365.html

Manchester City are too good for restless Robinho
By Oliver Holt

Published 23:00 17/11/09

This is how I think Robinho operates. He goes with the flow.

He allows people to think what they want to think.

If they want him to stay at Manchester City, he tells them he wants to stay. Says he’s never been happier.

If they want to get him a move elsewhere, he tells them, sure, why not. Says he can’t stand to stay another day at Eastlands.

He lets things drift. He exists in a vortex of uncertainty and rumour, of claim and counter-claim and senseless distortion.

He’s a study in the Kafkaesque intrigue that surrounds so many modern footballers, a world of petty and impenetrable complexities.

No one being able to pin anything down. No one knowing what’s happening. Everyone assuming he wants to leave but not knowing for sure.

Like a lot of players, he’s got so many hangers-on clinging to him and sucking at his cash, no one quite knows who to trust.

In Doha last week, Robinho said that only his father was authorised to speak for him, that his father had never given an interview and that all others purporting to speak for him should be disregarded.

Robinho added that he loved it at City. Garry Cook, the City chief executive, said Robinho loved it at City. Mark Hughes, the City manager, said he assumed the same.

Others dismissed what Robinho said about his father as a statement that only the most gullible would swallow.

They were adamant he has retained middle-men like Chris Nathaniel, who is also Rio Ferdinand’s adviser, to conduct his affairs.

A friend of mine met Nathaniel in Abu Dhabi last week. After the meeting, he wrote that Robinho was desperate to get away from Eastlands.

Nathaniel was apparently in Abu Dhabi, where City were on a winter break, to meet a delegation from Barcelona.

Cook was supposed to have been attending that meeting, too. When I asked Cook, he denied all knowledge of it.

The other side said that was laughable. They said City had bottled it when they realised news of the meeting had leaked out.

City said the entire soap-opera was fabrication. They blamed mischief-making. They said it was agents trying to make money.

No money in it for the agents, City said, if Robinho saw out his contract. No story for anybody, then.

Cook and Nathaniel were supposed to have had a row at the seven star Emirates Palace, where City were staying. I don’t know it that’s true. I didn’t see it.

I don’t blame Cook or Nathaniel. I don’t know which of them is telling the truth and which one is lying.

It’s even possible they’re both telling the truth. Or, at least, what they believe to be the truth.

What I do know is that this is how the modern transfer of the big-name footballer is often played out.

No one takes responsibility. No one levels with the fans. Least of all the player, who just sews confusion.

I put it all down to Robinho. This uncertainty and this intrigue, it all stems from him, from what he has allowed to develop around him.

It all stems from a guy who blew his chance at Real Madrid and left amid what appeared to be a reasonable amount of acrimony.

A guy who seemed to be on his way to Chelsea but pitched up at City in haste, without appearing to know exactly who he’d signed for.

A guy who has got great ability but who put in some of the laziest, most disinterested performances I have ever seen from any player anywhere at City last season.

This is a man who is wasting his talent, who is letting it dissolve in this web of lies and double-speak.

The irony is, I’m not even sure he’ll get back into the City team when he’s fit again. He’s getting awfully close to being surplus to requirements.

He’s got to the stage at City already where he’d be a good player to have coming off the bench when you’re chasing a game.

And if he does move to Barcelona, he won’t last there, either. Something will happen. There’ll be trouble. That’s the way he is. Restless. Rootless.

Robinho gives the impression he thinks he’s too good for City but I think that balance of power is changing all the time.

City will move relentlessly forwards. Robinho? I don’t think so.

And when the rumours and the speculation stop and the fog clears, people will begin to realise that, actually, City are too good for him
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Re: Robinho heading for the exit .../

Postby CitizenYank » Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:06 am

Hmmm this story seems a lot like the one for Tevez; they'll print anything, nowadays; if we can get over 40 mill out of Barca,
who'd want to pass that up!!
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