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Re: redknapp

Postby john68 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:23 pm

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Who do you think we missed out on by letting them go?


I can't think of a single manager who has left City who has gone on to achieve anything. We have at times replaced a bad manager with an even worse one, which was probably daft, but I can't think of one who's gone on to manage a top club or win something. Peter Reid at Sunderland is probably as close as it gets.


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Re: redknapp

Postby Dunnylad » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:12 pm

What about Mercer? Arguably got rid of him too soon & it cost us long term - that team should have had more to show than three trophies

As for Mancini I hope you realise the rags ate laughing at our knee jerk reactions to the start of the season & the cup exit - some people need to get a grip Mancini has now won the league and FA Cup - no one can prove to me that anyone else will come in & achieve better in a short timescale - FFP is making things awkward & last night proved that at the moment the kids are good enough
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Re: redknapp

Postby simplytolmie » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:19 pm

I have mixed feelings about this thread. Mancini has changed his team that often that we cant settle however I do remember after every tournament year there is a hangover for the top teams. The red shite haven't played well but the drubbing they gave out the other week papers the cracks. Arsenal couldn't do worse than last year but until us had a very easy start to the season. Chelsea have been good but without a striker will have problems. We can only get better and id sooner have our blip in the season now.

On to redknapp he can make a team play attractive football and with the talent we have I'd quite like to see us free flowing and killing teams.

I have to be honest though if a change is made it has to be for guardiola or mourinho only.

I'd give it another 10 games and re-asses where we are. We have 4 soft games now we should take max points so it'll be interesting!
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Re: redknapp

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:01 pm

If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.
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Re: redknapp

Postby Dunnylad » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:13 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.


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Re: redknapp

Postby Original Dub » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:19 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.


Getting rid of him would be ridiculous. I don't even think that's in question.

But the fact is that he has a stubborness about him that seems to have grown big time and although it nearly cost us over the last two seasons here and there, this season - from his post match interviews to his changing of at least 5 players a game - it is worrying me a lot more.

I could take it if I thought he was making the wrong decisions out of desperation but I can't get it out of my head that it is pre-determined.

The guy won the fa cup, secured champions league qualification and won the league. Sacking him is ridiculous... But we can't tell him to buck up and I wouldn't hold it against khaldoun if he did at this point.
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Re: redknapp

Postby PALUS » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:21 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.

Ted are u think that Bob is best manager for City or u think that hes thr one of let say three best managers in World.to n have confusion i think hes good well he have result behaind him to supoort that but i wanna know what u think abaut him in general.
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Re: redknapp

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:11 am

Ted Hughes wrote:If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.


I don't believe this position for one second.

Look what Jose did with mancini's inter side as a case in point.

I don't want Mancini sacked. I can't imagine anyone does. But if he flounders around this season he will be asking for someone to give him a full body cavity search and consider other options if they find his asshole stuffed with rubber sausages of heroin. For example.
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Re: redknapp

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:08 am

Ted Hughes wrote:If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.


Exactly.
I can't believe people are even seriously contemplating sacking the manager who has delivered us FA Cup and league title. Let's put it like this, sacking the manager who is current league holder at any stage of the season almost regardless of results would be nothing short of ridiculous.

Fuck me some people are sounding like rags these days. All those stooges who have been calling for Ferguson's head when they have had similar starts in the past.

Fuck me, that "What does Yaya do" topic still does rounds but someone should dig up those retarded topics from title winning season asking for Mancini's head. There are certain posters here who have had axe to grind with him from the day he took the job and not even all the titles would change their petty minds. Time to admit that Jew came and conquered and EARNED the time and freedom to exercise a bit (and fail a little as well).

And no, I'm not happy with the way we play right now but I'm wiser than to bet against man with Mancini's track record.
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Re: redknapp

Postby Original Dub » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:09 am

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Exactly.
I can't believe people are even seriously contemplating sacking the manager who has delivered us FA Cup and league title. Let's put it like this, sacking the manager who is current league holder at any stage of the season almost regardless of results would be nothing short of ridiculous.

Fuck me some people are sounding like rags these days. All those stooges who have been calling for Ferguson's head when they have had similar starts in the past.

Fuck me, that "What does Yaya do" topic still does rounds but someone should dig up those retarded topics from title winning season asking for Mancini's head. There are certain posters here who have had axe to grind with him from the day he took the job and not even all the titles would change their petty minds. Time to admit that Jew came and conquered and EARNED the time and freedom to exercise a bit (and fail a little as well).

And no, I'm not happy with the way we play right now but I'm wiser than to bet against man with Mancini's track record.


Which posters are calling for his head? You want to drag this topic back up in the future and who exactly is going to look foolish?

Not a dig at you mate but you have previous for having a mini bitch fit and not actually any real reason to?

Give us names of these people. Or else they simply don't exist and that would make you weird.
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Re: redknapp

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:14 am

DoomMerchant wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.


I don't believe this position for one second.

Look what Jose did with mancini's inter side as a case in point.

I don't want Mancini sacked. I can't imagine anyone does. But if he flounders around this season he will be asking for someone to give him a full body cavity search and consider other options if they find his asshole stuffed with rubber sausages of heroin. For example.


Is this the same Jose who's struggling like fuck at Real & is already about 1 defeat from losing the Spanish title, who dropped Ramos for some kid when they played City in the Chumps Lg & almost lost the 1st game at home for the 1st time in donkey's years against a side playing like shite ? That Jose ?
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Re: redknapp

Postby AG7 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:29 am

The most idiotic thread ever ... if at all you want to talk about replacing Mancini (which too is stupid in first place), then you don't headline it as Redknapp ... Guardiola maybe, but definitely not 'Arry.
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Re: redknapp

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:22 pm

AG7 wrote:The most idiotic thread ever ... if at all you want to talk about replacing Mancini (which too is stupid in first place), then you don't headline it as Redknapp ... Guardiola maybe, but definitely not 'Arry.


He was quite obviously taking the piss. Did you even read the OP?
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Re: redknapp

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:59 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.


I don't believe this position for one second.

Look what Jose did with mancini's inter side as a case in point.

I don't want Mancini sacked. I can't imagine anyone does. But if he flounders around this season he will be asking for someone to give him a full body cavity search and consider other options if they find his asshole stuffed with rubber sausages of heroin. For example.


Is this the same Jose who's struggling like fuck at Real & is already about 1 defeat from losing the Spanish title, who dropped Ramos for some kid when they played City in the Chumps Lg & almost lost the 1st game at home for the 1st time in donkey's years against a side playing like shite ? That Jose ?


i think that's the same one...salt and pepper hair? Portugeezer?

look, im not "calling for mancini's head" as Antti wrote a few posts up, and I hope he wasn't accusing me of doing that, because i didn't. What i am saying is...why fuck about with the formula that won the league and further with a system that's probably been out of fashion and sussed out, by Antti's own expert analysis, for over 15 years or so?

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Re: redknapp

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:47 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.


I don't believe this position for one second.

Look what Jose did with mancini's inter side as a case in point.

I don't want Mancini sacked. I can't imagine anyone does. But if he flounders around this season he will be asking for someone to give him a full body cavity search and consider other options if they find his asshole stuffed with rubber sausages of heroin. For example.


Is this the same Jose who's struggling like fuck at Real & is already about 1 defeat from losing the Spanish title, who dropped Ramos for some kid when they played City in the Chumps Lg & almost lost the 1st game at home for the 1st time in donkey's years against a side playing like shite ? That Jose ?


i think that's the same one...salt and pepper hair? Portugeezer?

look, im not "calling for mancini's head" as Antti wrote a few posts up, and I hope he wasn't accusing me of doing that, because i didn't. What i am saying is...why fuck about with the formula that won the league and further with a system that's probably been out of fashion and sussed out, by Antti's own expert analysis, for over 15 years or so?

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It IS shit system and I have NO idea why he wants to roll with that but he has earned the chance to do that for me. Unfortunately he will only find out that it's shit system that simply doesn't work.
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Re: redknapp

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:23 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:If we sack Mancini, we will win fuck all this season & fuck all next season & probably end up sacking the next bloke & winning fuck all for at least a season after that & possibly sacking the next bloke after the next bloke.

All we are seeing at the moment, is what the team would look like if Redknapp or similar was in charge; disorganised. The bit that is missing, is the 'Mancini' bit; his organisation, because he has been trying other things. Get rid of him & you have a set of players, with no organisation & no system to fall back on. Whatever happens now, we know Mancini can go back to what he does. A new manager can't, he has to start from fresh.


I don't believe this position for one second.

Look what Jose did with mancini's inter side as a case in point.

I don't want Mancini sacked. I can't imagine anyone does. But if he flounders around this season he will be asking for someone to give him a full body cavity search and consider other options if they find his asshole stuffed with rubber sausages of heroin. For example.


Is this the same Jose who's struggling like fuck at Real & is already about 1 defeat from losing the Spanish title, who dropped Ramos for some kid when they played City in the Chumps Lg & almost lost the 1st game at home for the 1st time in donkey's years against a side playing like shite ? That Jose ?


i think that's the same one...salt and pepper hair? Portugeezer?

look, im not "calling for mancini's head" as Antti wrote a few posts up, and I hope he wasn't accusing me of doing that, because i didn't. What i am saying is...why fuck about with the formula that won the league and further with a system that's probably been out of fashion and sussed out, by Antti's own expert analysis, for over 15 years or so?

cheers


It IS shit system and I have NO idea why he wants to roll with that but he has earned the chance to do that for me. Unfortunately he will only find out that it's shit system that simply doesn't work.


so, let him fail, THEN give him the sack. ;)
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Re: redknapp

Postby CitizenYank » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:06 pm

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Re: redknapp

Postby Slim » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:11 pm

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The times when City have fucked up, we have reacted to one bad season by sacking the manager, even if he's proven himself previously.

In all cases, this has made us worse.


Who do you think we missed out on by letting them go?


Steve Coppell.

Mancini has earned some fucking patience from you lot, how about showing a bit more fucking class.
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Re: redknapp

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:30 pm

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I meant post-war.

Before my time, but yes he did go on to success at Villa. That said, I believe he walked rather than was pushed, so for once we didn't cock up.
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Re: redknapp

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:38 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
It IS shit system and I have NO idea why he wants to roll with that but he has earned the chance to do that for me. Unfortunately he will only find out that it's shit system that simply doesn't work.


That's the problem though - he seems to have two systems he's trying out. One is 3-5-2 that's been a disaster so far and the other is 4-4-2 that no top club has played for years. On top of that, both Villa and Arsenal, yes Arsenal, out fought us and looked like they wanted it more.

I'd say winning the league last season is probably giving him time as if we'd finished second and then been served up the shite we have so far this season there would have been noisy complaints in the last two games.

It would be ridiculous to sack him now and I don't think anyone wants that, however, he needs to sort this out soon as he can't live on last season if poor performances AND results continue for much longer. This is his longest run as City manager without a win so let's hope it doesn't get any longer. It won't happen, but we could be left with just the FA cup to win by the end of October if he's not careful
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