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City To Produce For England?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:10 am

I've just read a nice piece in the Telegraph ([urlnp=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/9606649/Manchester-City-start-work-100m-training-complex-keen-to-pay-their-own-way-by-producing-superstars-of-future.html#]Here[/urlnp]) regarding our Academy plans and thought I'd have a quick scoot through and see what else had been written. Then I came across this piece from England Football Blog and wondered why it was up to us to provide for the future of England? The last 3 questions puzzled me somewhat as it does not ask about any other Premier League team, - no Man United, no Arsenal, no Chelsea - it justs asks the question of Manchester City. Why is that?

First they complain that Mansours money could've gone to health and education, now they want him to fund the future of England. Is this how bad it has got?

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Manchester Citys Brian Marwoods Embarrassing Academy Plans

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Less than a week after the opening of England‘s very own national football centre, Manchester City‘s sporting director Brian Marwood has brought the country down to earth with an unrivaled outburst stating that the future of the league champions does not necessarily revolve around homegrown talent.

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Weeks ago jaws dropped at the official unveiling of the fantastic Etihad Campus, a £200m setup which on this very blog was labeled as the bringer of hope to not only Manchester City but England as well. After almost a year of wondering, how refreshing it was to read that Manchester City’s footballing academy plans are set to become a reality. Weeks later, however, Manchester City‘s own Brian Marwood has just dished out a one hell of a party line.

‘Our priority is to produce players who will get into City’s first team. From a selfish point of view, that may mean to the detriment of the England team. And while it would be great (to help England) because I came through the system and it helped me, we also have to be realistic. If we are trying to produce real top quality to play for City, if they happen to come from another country and we’ve developed them, we shouldn’t be ashamed to embrace it.

‘We can’t expect our owners to keep spending at the rate they’ve been spending for the past three or four years. We have to start somewhere and change that — and it’s something we’re trying to do. We are looking to produce youngsters to play alongside the likes of Yaya Toure and David Silva. That is the benchmark if we want to be a side competing in every cup competition at home and in Europe.

‘The harsh reality is we have to produce local boys or bring in players from abroad. You see players for our under-21s who have come from Spain, Norway and France. It is something everyone has to deal with because it is a global game.’


While football might be a global game, English clubs should have an obligation to their local and national fan-base to produce English players. Other top clubs across all of the other top nations don’t seem to have this issue. Why should the top teams in England be any different?

    Is it a “harsh reality” for Barcelona to have over 95% of their academy be Spanish?

    Is it a “harsh reality” for Bayern Munich to have over 80% of their U21 through U17 teams be German?

    Why should it be that Manchester City uses the ‘global’ factor of football as an excuse to sidestep what should be fundamentally core to every club in football – agnostic of where they are based?

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I also note other clubs fans thoughts on this and in the main they are not really worthy of copying in as there doesn't seem to be any decent responses to what could be another real success for us, and for other national teams, including England. Are supporters that blind or is it just envy that drives them to such comments?
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby ashton287 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:22 am

Look at how England have treated English city players and then they expect us to spend our time and money bringing players through for them to be Fucking ignored for much less talented Liverpool players.
The FA can fucking swivel the bunch of bent cunts, the shit they get away with. I hope we don't produce a single fucking player for them in the next twenty years.
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby Bear60 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:36 pm

ashton287 wrote:Look at how England have treated English city players and then they expect us to spend our time and money bringing players through for them to be Fucking ignored for much less talented Liverpool players.
The FA can fucking swivel the bunch of bent cunts, the shit they get away with. I hope we don't produce a single fucking player for them in the next twenty years.


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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:45 pm

No mention of Arsenal, who have been slyly producing players for other countries for over a decade. The English players they've got they buy in. Except Frimpong and he's never goig to pull on an England shirt anyway (unless he moves to the filth).
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:18 pm

Couldn't care less if we produce the entire Iranian 2034 World Cup winning squad if it means we keep winning. If they happen to be English instead, even better, but moaning about their nationality seems a rather xenophobic view.

Watching the Euros this year I realised just how bad most of the international sides are. Only Spain and maybe Germany looked capable of finishing in the top 4 in England or Spain. International football is for the casual fans, who pay attention every 2 years or fans of lower league clubs where the chance to watch Scott Parker and Johnjo Shelvey for a team you support is a treat.
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby lets all have a disco » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:31 pm

That England finishing school doesnt stand a fucking prayer of getting the best young English talent to go there EVERY youngster wants to play in the Premier league and win medals oh and get a fortune of cash and mummy and daddy set up with a house and car.

It's a waste of money IMHO and im with Ashton on this i'm a blue first and foremost England are pretty low down and i'd
rather City produce players for us than anyone else by hook or by crook.
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:35 pm

The function of our academy is to produce Manchester City players, full-stop.
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby bluechester » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:48 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:The function of our academy is to produce Manchester City players, full-stop.


damn right & if any england players come as a result bonus, but we are doing it for city not england,
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby King Kev » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:16 pm

I couldn't give a flying fuck about England.

So long as the kids are good enough to come through to the first team I don't care if they are from Ancoats or Angola.
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:53 pm

I'm in full agreement with most of the comments so far, I just cannot get over the fact that it is being portrayed that we should somehow be the saviour of English football, like England has an entitlement from City, whereas the likes oof Arsenal, Chelsea and the Rags have no such remit.

Who's to say that we won't produce many of the next generation of English players, it's just that we are saying it isn't a set priority.
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby paul_oresteia » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:46 pm

Marwood has said nothing wrong there. Is the "harsh reality" that English youngsters just aren't as good as Spanish & German lads of the same age? Regardless of nationality, City are gonna want to develop the best young talent. I'm well happy reading what Marwood's said. Shows we're moving in the right direction.
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby sheblue » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:27 am

I don't think any of the worlds big clubs are too bothered about international football anymore.
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Re: City To Produce For England?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:03 am

bluechester wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:The function of our academy is to produce Manchester City players, full-stop.


damn right & if any england players come as a result bonus, but we are doing it for city not england,


Exactly.

Furthermore, since our owners took control of the Club, we've been portrayed by all and sundry that we are ruining football.

On that basis, it's ironic that because England are such an inferior and mediocre team, the onus seems to suddenly have fallen upon us to be the saviours of the nation - we've been delegated a sort of moral and ethical responsibility, when the fact is that England's decline has been in progress for far longer than ten or fifteen years, at the very least.

Graham Taylor with his long-ball, anti-football beliefs were only the tip of the iceberg, compounded and created by a criminally incompetent FA who have wasted vast amounts of time and money over many long years.

The only "interest" I have in International football nowadays is worrying if any City players will come back injured.
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