The Defence and Mancini.

[freshie]

I thought he said he knew what the problem was and that he would solve it.

He did say that. Clearly he was talking out of his arse

[sheblue]

I can't understand why most are blaming one player or one incident! The problems are much bigger than one or two player errors. WE AEE NOT AS GOOD AS WE THINK.

[Bluez]

Piss funny blaming this loss on zonal fucking marking,,,,we had the best defence in the prem last year so that excuse can go where it belongs , in the bin !!!!

We lost today because Lescott didnt challenge his man for the header - thats a fucking fact so put as much fuckign spin on it as you want....facts are facts.

Most are blaming it on Mancini's tactics

[Ted Hughes]

Piss funny blaming this loss on zonal fucking marking,,,,we had the best defence in the prem last year so that excuse can go where it belongs , in the bin !!!!

We lost today because Lescott didnt challenge his man for the header - thats a fucking fact so put as much fuckign spin on it as you want....facts are facts.

If you put a ball in like that & I get the run on a defender, I'd back myself to score 8 out of 10 times. Lescott was poor but even if he'd been good, the result would have still been the ball ending up in our net, but with him a bit closer to it. You can't let the ball come in like that & players have a free run. We do that against other teams with the same corner. We should be positioned to stop it.

[PeterParker]

After what happend this season so far, i can come with only one conclusion : Savic was holding our defence together.

[bluechester]

Zonal marking works if used correctly, if a corner comes in you have to attack the ball you dont just fucking do a standing jump, the concept of zonal is marking the space but you still have to attack the ball.individual errors, lescott today, vinny last weekend.WTF is going on with our defence

[Beefymcfc]

For me, it's not about the players it's about the trust, between the tactical changes and the trust in Mancini himself.

Do the players trust Mancini? After tonights tactical genius I'd be amazed if any of the players know what is really going on.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Piss funny blaming this loss on zonal fucking marking,,,,we had the best defence in the prem last year so that excuse can go where it belongs , in the bin !!!!

We lost today because Lescott didnt challenge his man for the header - thats a fucking fact so put as much fuckign spin on it as you want....facts are facts.

If you put a ball in like that & I get the run on a defender, I'd back myself to score 8 out of 10 times. Lescott was poor but even if he'd been good, the result would have still been the ball ending up in our net, but with him a bit closer to it. You can't let the ball come in like that & players have a free run. We do that against other teams with the same corner. We should be positioned to stop it.

Your defending of Lescott is worse than my attacks on him , at least when he plays well I admit it but when he fucks up you make excuses for him that is beyond laughable.Lescott did not challenge for the fuckign ball !!!!!! if he did the header might not have gone in.Why is that so fucking difficult for you to grasp? If that Lescott performance had been Nastys then I would bet my billy bollocks yearly salary you would have had a field day on it!!!

Stop defending and making excuses for the inept performance of Lescott ffs...he was shite and was the culprit for us losing.

[Ted Hughes]

Zonal marking works if used correctly, if a corner comes in you have to attack the ball you dont just fucking do a standing jump, the concept of zonal is marking the space but you still have to attack the ball.individual errors, lescott today, vinny last weekend.WTF is going on with our defence

True but if you let a ball come into the near post with pace & have a runner coming in, they are favourite every time. There has to be more players involved in blocking the runners & protecting that area. You will never get perfection in those situations & if you expect it, you will concede goals. We sorted all this out but Bob has taken his eye off the ball being to busy farting about with new systems & players.

[Blue Since 76]

Zonal marking works if used correctly, if a corner comes in you have to attack the ball you dont just fucking do a standing jump, the concept of zonal is marking the space but you still have to attack the ball.individual errors, lescott today, vinny last weekend.WTF is going on with our defence

But we don't attack the ball and never have. So why doesn't the manager do something about it?

[Dunnylad]

I see Mancini said it was his fault as he didn't tell Lescott to jump - Carl I think you might be getting your wish, although lord only knows who comes in alongside Kompany

[bluechester]

Zonal marking works if used correctly, if a corner comes in you have to attack the ball you dont just fucking do a standing jump, the concept of zonal is marking the space but you still have to attack the ball.individual errors, lescott today, vinny last weekend.WTF is going on with our defence

But we don't attack the ball and never have. So why doesn't the manager do something about it?

what i saw from lescott at that corner was embarrassing, he is a england centre haalf and did not move to the ball, i mean he is a fooking international defender yet refused to move to attack the ball tactics or not an individual as to take responsibilty and defend, if a ball is going into your zone move to the fucking ball and clear it, dont just do a standing jump

[carl_feedthegoat]

I see Mancini said it was his fault as he didn't tell Lescott to jump - Carl I think you might be getting your wish, although lord only knows who comes in alongside Kompany

Id drop him as well , Zaba on the right clichy on the left , Micah in between and now pick a n o t h e r.
Didnt Garcia play there?

[Beefymcfc]

I see Mancini said it was his fault as he didn't tell Lescott to jump - Carl I think you might be getting your wish, although lord only knows who comes in alongside Kompany

Wait-One, what was that? Bobby has openly blamed one of his players?

[Ted Hughes]

Zonal marking works if used correctly, if a corner comes in you have to attack the ball you dont just fucking do a standing jump, the concept of zonal is marking the space but you still have to attack the ball.individual errors, lescott today, vinny last weekend.WTF is going on with our defence

But we don't attack the ball and never have. So why doesn't the manager do something about it?

We were as good as anyone on corners last season.

I see Mancini said it was his fault as he didn't tell Lescott to jump - Carl I think you might be getting your wish, although lord only knows who comes in alongside Kompany

If he's singling out JL for that mistake & makes him the scapegoat but hasn't done the same for all other similar mistakes made by others, he will lose the respect of all the players (& me).

If he's going down that road, we can write off the season & his career imo as the players will get him out. Hopefully he will calm down and we can get some self esteem back on Saturday.

[Ted Hughes]

Zonal marking works if used correctly, if a corner comes in you have to attack the ball you dont just fucking do a standing jump, the concept of zonal is marking the space but you still have to attack the ball.individual errors, lescott today, vinny last weekend.WTF is going on with our defence

But we don't attack the ball and never have. So why doesn't the manager do something about it?

what i saw from lescott at that corner was embarrassing, he is a england centre haalf and did not move to the ball, i mean he is a fooking international defender yet refused to move to attack the ball tactics or not an individual as to take responsibilty and defend, if a ball is going into your zone move to the fucking ball and clear it, dont just do a standing jump

I agree with that, but unless we cover it, the same thing will happen to Vinny, Micah, Nastasic etc etc. It may be shit, but it happens to players. The team has to set up better so that it doesn't result in a goal like it has with JL & Vinny.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Zonal marking works if used correctly, if a corner comes in you have to attack the ball you dont just fucking do a standing jump, the concept of zonal is marking the space but you still have to attack the ball.individual errors, lescott today, vinny last weekend.WTF is going on with our defence

But we don't attack the ball and never have. So why doesn't the manager do something about it?

what i saw from lescott at that corner was embarrassing, he is a england centre haalf and did not move to the ball, i mean he is a fooking international defender yet refused to move to attack the ball tactics or not an individual as to take responsibilty and defend, if a ball is going into your zone move to the fucking ball and clear it, dont just do a standing jump

Im sick and tired of singling him out but I knew he would fuck up again tonight as he has done all season long , we got away with it up to now in the prem as we have managed to houdini our way out of trouble by scoring down the other end but we will not get away with it forever.

Ted et al wanting Lescott and Vinnie in the side no matter what is just as suicidal as Mancini losing the plot tonight.

[PeterParker]

I don't know from where this zonal marking stuff came, but we used it since Bobby came here, Hughes instead liked man marking.

Remember the second part of 2009-2010 and the first part of 2010-2011, when we complained here about that problem, that we let too many it, that it was bad, but then we sorted it out, well Bobby did.

Our zonal marking is the same, the problem is with the players that have something they don't like and because of that thing, they are poor. Just remember, this was the best defence in Europe, better than Madrid last year.


Let's get a thing strait, if we are it. Bobby is a great league manager, one of the best in the world, imho, but he is beyond mediocre in Europe. He was at us, Inter, Fiorentina and Lazio, he can't change that. The reason i think he has this "problem" is as fucked up it may sound at this level, is because he doesn't know the opponent and isn't capable of handle the unexpected. He does it very well with teams he saw every weekend, but when it comes to opponents that he doesn't know that well, he fails.

I am prepare to bet that he knows every tactic of WBA, Stoke and Norwich, but doesn't have a clue about Madrid, Real and Ajax, even if they are big clubs.

[Ted Hughes]

Zonal marking works if used correctly, if a corner comes in you have to attack the ball you dont just fucking do a standing jump, the concept of zonal is marking the space but you still have to attack the ball.individual errors, lescott today, vinny last weekend.WTF is going on with our defence

But we don't attack the ball and never have. So why doesn't the manager do something about it?

what i saw from lescott at that corner was embarrassing, he is a england centre haalf and did not move to the ball, i mean he is a fooking international defender yet refused to move to attack the ball tactics or not an individual as to take responsibilty and defend, if a ball is going into your zone move to the fucking ball and clear it, dont just do a standing jump

Im sick and tired of singling him out but I knew he would fuck up again tonight as he has done all season long , we got away with it up to now in the prem as we have managed to houdini our way out of trouble by scoring down the other end but we will not get away with it forever.

Ted et al wanting Lescott and Vinnie in the side no matter what is just as suicidal as Mancini losing the plot tonight.

How the fuck can you say that it's suicidal when we won the league & on the whole have played better this season in every single game when they have played together ?

Lescott fucked up tonight, Vinny has fucked up several times but they are our best defenders. The defence went to fucking pieces when Lescott went off. It's one thing having a couple of players making the odd mistake, it's another having a complete fucking shambles and teams running through us. Ajax didn't cause us manyt problems until Mancini changed it.

If they play together, they will sort it out. I recon, if they don't, & Lescott is replaced now, we are fucked.

[Tru_Blu]

I don't want any knee jerk reactions like the sacking of our manager, but as stated by the man himself the way the team played was his fault. This is what i think the problem is.

1. Tempo- we clearly do not have any. we are slow with no movement what so ever.
2. Lescott- He is an ok defender but is clearly a liability when going forward and when to much pressure is put on the defense.
3. Yaya- Great going forward but really does nothing when the other team has the ball. Someone needs to light a fire under his ass or just use him as a AMF
4. Movement- we have none as a team, in attack or defense
5. Milner- Just not good enough
6. Kompany- Hasn't played to his potential at all this season
7. Manicni- needs to stop being a pussy and play attacking football; also needs to stop changing the team every fucking game.
8. Mancini staff- grow some balls an tell Mancini what the problem is.

Rant over. lets get it together CITY