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Re: Dzeko

Postby Swales4ever » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:55 am

zuricity wrote:
Dunnylad wrote:I'm not sure if he struggles to find space early on in matches which is why he isn't as effective when he starts a match - certainly goals against the rags, qpr last season and his goals this season have all come late with quite a few being on the break against a tiring team. I know he doesn't want to be considered a super sub, but surely all successful sides need a game changer on the bench & he's the best we have


He doesn't struggle early on at all. We spend the first 15 mins pussyfooting around. That's not in his nature.

Anyway i've just had a vision that Mario starts tonight, goes into the box , gets fouled. A clear penalty, but Mario gets red carded for a dive !

So on that basis, i guess we'll win three or four to one, with Edin belting a hat trick in !

haha, nice and promising vision, that.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby sheblue » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:51 pm

Oh look another thread about Dzeko.......
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Re: Dzeko

Postby phips » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:21 pm

sheblue wrote:Oh look another thread about Dzeko.......

Why resurrect an old one when you get to click "New Thread"?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Wooders » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:13 pm

I thought he was playing tonight?

where is he?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Moonchesteri » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:28 pm

I have to say I'm really pleased with Edin's work rate. Covering for our full back at times and there was even one situation where Micah went up with another midfielder on the right hand side and when we lost possession it was Edin out of those three who was the one to race back to win the ball (and he wasn't the one closest to the ball).
Keep up this good work rate Dzeko. The scoring chances will come too and then do what you do the best
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Re: Dzeko

Postby paulmclaren » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:44 pm

Playing miles better this season good too see and was good tonight.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:49 pm

First goal i just watch there is only one ajax player in and five ofCity and the guy score , our defence is on horible and that ball back so many times.....
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:16 pm

Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:19 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.

O yea its hes fault :) , its not because we are on a rescue last how many games , we suck defence is horiblle and sorry but sometimes manager must take the blame
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:44 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:One touch, scores a goal, we wonder why he falls apart when he has time to think about things?

As a manager, I'd be wondering how I can get that one touch more.

Simple is, simple does.


Thing is, at the end of games [when chasing games], we give him the one touch stuff. At the start, we build up in a completely different way which really doesn't suit him.

I suspect he'll start tomorrow and we'll all be slating him on here again.

When you have great players, play to their strengths. If he's coming on from the start, play accordingly.


If you want that, then get Redknapp in as a manager. We have a style of play where we keep the ball and tire the opposition out. If we haven't beat them in 75 minutes, any sub would have an impact, but going more direct to Dzeko works perfectly. If we spend 90 minutes launching balls at him, our entire set up is wrong.

Tonight has proven that we can't play with him for 90 minutes. He affects our style which nullifies him and the rest of the team. So either we change our style; only play Dzeko as a sub or; sell him. We can't keep playing him for 90 minutes and watching it not work.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby sheblue » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:52 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.


He is doing best as a sub so keep him there, against good technical sides tevez aguero together would do better.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:55 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:One touch, scores a goal, we wonder why he falls apart when he has time to think about things?

As a manager, I'd be wondering how I can get that one touch more.

Simple is, simple does.


Thing is, at the end of games [when chasing games], we give him the one touch stuff. At the start, we build up in a completely different way which really doesn't suit him.

I suspect he'll start tomorrow and we'll all be slating him on here again.

When you have great players, play to their strengths. If he's coming on from the start, play accordingly.


If you want that, then get Redknapp in as a manager. We have a style of play where we keep the ball and tire the opposition out. If we haven't beat them in 75 minutes, any sub would have an impact, but going more direct to Dzeko works perfectly. If we spend 90 minutes launching balls at him, our entire set up is wrong.

Tonight has proven that we can't play with him for 90 minutes. He affects our style which nullifies him and the rest of the team. So either we change our style; only play Dzeko as a sub or; sell him. We can't keep playing him for 90 minutes and watching it not work.

I know how we play pal, or used to, but we haven't done it this season. I've stated previously that if we are to play Dzeko then we have to play the quick ball, not our normal game. Also, I don't think he plays well with Aguero, or Silva, he seems to get ignored.

There's a reason he we play to his strengths when he comes on, we need to win. Seems we tire them out even more when he's on the pitch.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:57 pm

PALUS wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.

O yea its hes fault :) , its not because we are on a rescue last how many games , we suck defence is horiblle and sorry but sometimes manager must take the blame


Where did I say it was his fault ? I could have sworn I said that he did ok. Did I not post that ? Am I imagining it ?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:58 pm

sheblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.


He is doing best as a sub so keep him there, against good technical sides tevez aguero together would do better.

Then we must prepare to buy new striker or super sub because he will leave he want to play and this tonight is nothing to do with him , when hes shit hes shit , this sesaon is far from that ,and sorry this children are good tactical team , yap i saw the game with Real real menager crush that boys if he have better players and Bob have on every place two better players , but no let keep Edin on bench that is key to victory , all team was shit defence is the bigest problem not atack, not Ballo not Edin not Aguero not Tevez , they wil score all 4 of them with proper passes not even that jus give it in box , but defence is all over the pitch one good game from them , Sunderlend
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:09 pm

PALUS wrote:
sheblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.


He is doing best as a sub so keep him there, against good technical sides tevez aguero together would do better.

Then we must prepare to buy new striker or super sub because he will leave he want to play and this tonight is nothing to do with him , when hes shit hes shit , this sesaon is far from that ,and sorry this children are good tactical team , yap i saw the game with Real real menager crush that boys if he have better players and Bob have on every place two better players , but no let keep Edin on bench that is key to victory , all team was shit defence is the bigest problem not atack, not Ballo not Edin not Aguero not Tevez , they wil score all 4 of them with proper passes not even that jus give it in box , but defence is all over the pitch one good game from them , Sunderlend


Dzeko did ok tonight but he should have scored at least one goal. He hit the target but there was nothing special about his finishing today. The defence made mistakes but so did he & Aguero.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:14 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
PALUS wrote:
sheblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.


He is doing best as a sub so keep him there, against good technical sides tevez aguero together would do better.

Then we must prepare to buy new striker or super sub because he will leave he want to play and this tonight is nothing to do with him , when hes shit hes shit , this sesaon is far from that ,and sorry this children are good tactical team , yap i saw the game with Real real menager crush that boys if he have better players and Bob have on every place two better players , but no let keep Edin on bench that is key to victory , all team was shit defence is the bigest problem not atack, not Ballo not Edin not Aguero not Tevez , they wil score all 4 of them with proper passes not even that jus give it in box , but defence is all over the pitch one good game from them , Sunderlend


Dzeko did ok tonight but he should have scored at least one goal. He hit the target but there was nothing special about his finishing today. The defence made mistakes but so did he & Aguero.

that is what i was saying all team sucks i dont see how is the bigest problem atack we score all the time and yes Edin play good and this time he did not score , but defence in compere to atack is horible , and midefild was bad , they cant brake Ajax and Ajax did not play nothibg special but we got 3 that is how bad we are at back
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Re: Dzeko

Postby freshie » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:16 pm

PALUS wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.

O yea its hes fault :) , its not because we are on a rescue last how many games , we suck defence is horiblle and sorry but sometimes manager must take the blame


Why do you get so defensive whenever anyone posts about Dzeko. Where did Ted say that tonight's defeat was Dzeko's fault? He simply stated that we don't play as well as a team when Dzeko is in the side with Aguero. Read the posts properly instead of reading what you want to. Anybody would think you were related to Dzeko. Are you?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:22 pm

sheblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.


He is doing best as a sub so keep him there, against good technical sides tevez aguero together would do better.

here and i dont see how is that bigest problem he play fine but generlly team suck , defence got 3 from i think 5 chances and we talk abaut atack i m defensiv because he is always nb 1 problem if he do not score. And i have wright on opinion here am i ?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:29 pm

PALUS wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
PALUS wrote:
sheblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Dzeko did ok but the team doesn't function as well with him & Aguero together in it. Tevez beings an extra ability to link up play that they don't have.


He is doing best as a sub so keep him there, against good technical sides tevez aguero together would do better.

Then we must prepare to buy new striker or super sub because he will leave he want to play and this tonight is nothing to do with him , when hes shit hes shit , this sesaon is far from that ,and sorry this children are good tactical team , yap i saw the game with Real real menager crush that boys if he have better players and Bob have on every place two better players , but no let keep Edin on bench that is key to victory , all team was shit defence is the bigest problem not atack, not Ballo not Edin not Aguero not Tevez , they wil score all 4 of them with proper passes not even that jus give it in box , but defence is all over the pitch one good game from them , Sunderlend


Dzeko did ok tonight but he should have scored at least one goal. He hit the target but there was nothing special about his finishing today. The defence made mistakes but so did he & Aguero.

that is what i was saying all team sucks i dont see how is the bigest problem atack we score all the time and yes Edin play good and this time he did not score , but defence in compere to atack is horible , and midefild was bad , they cant brake Ajax and Ajax did not play nothibg special but we got 3 that is how bad we are at back


We only scored one goal & that was created mainly by defenders and midfielders. Aguero & Dzeko had little to do with it.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby phips » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:55 am

Wooders wrote:I thought he was playing tonight?

where is he?

someone posted in here that a plausible reason why Dzeko has been a super sub for us is because
when he has been subbed on we've been behind and that means we've been kicking it long
and playing into the style of play that Dzeko succeeds in, whereas when he starts we tend to
do the "Barcelona-esque" style of play that doesn't suit Dzeko.

Not sure if that was the case tonight but it kinda looked like it.
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