SWP

[Sister of fu]

I thought Shaun's contribution today was very good. He did so much from back to front but was caught out on a couple of occassions that were very noticable.

Did he not set up a goal and could've had a couple more assists?

Agree with this, I thought he was very impressive in the second half. And like I said in the ratings thread, it's his never say die attitude that's one of his best qualities. A lot of players, even at this level, would have a quiet first half without much luck and the head would drop. No chance of that happening with Shaun, he'll keep plugging away until the final whistle, and consequently, today that character played a huge part in turning the game in our favour.

There's much talk about his crossing, as I recall that was never Shaunie's strong point. He'll skip past defenders, run with the ball for miles, tackle, track back, shoot from distance and link-up with other forwards...as far as I can see he's doing those things quite well at the moment. Before he left for Chelsea he was the icon that he was because he was surrounded by rubbish. He was our one bright spark. When playing with a better class of players as he's doing now, he's never going to look as good...but that doesn't mean he's rubbish or even in rubbish form. Last two games- one goal, one assist. That'll do for me.

I concour....!!

[mr_nool]

I thought Shaun's contribution today was very good. He did so much from back to front but was caught out on a couple of occassions that were very noticable.

Did he not set up a goal and could've had a couple more assists?

Agree with this, I thought he was very impressive in the second half. And like I said in the ratings thread, it's his never say die attitude that's one of his best qualities. A lot of players, even at this level, would have a quiet first half without much luck and the head would drop. No chance of that happening with Shaun, he'll keep plugging away until the final whistle, and consequently, today that character played a huge part in turning the game in our favour.

There's much talk about his crossing, as I recall that was never Shaunie's strong point. He'll skip past defenders, run with the ball for miles, tackle, track back, shoot from distance and link-up with other forwards...as far as I can see he's doing those things quite well at the moment. Before he left for Chelsea he was the icon that he was because he was surrounded by rubbish. He was our one bright spark. When playing with a better class of players as he's doing now, he's never going to look as good...but that doesn't mean he's rubbish or even in rubbish form. Last two games- one goal, one assist. That'll do for me.

I concour....!!

I agree as well. Dire first half, good seond, allthough too tired to put up a performance the last 5-10 minutes.

I think he gets stick, because people let two late actions cloud their judgement. I'm of course thinking of Shaun losing the ball very easily on the right twice within a couple of minutes. In both cases he got the ball standing still and seemed totally at loss of what to do.

[Tru_Blu]

here's my two cents. First SWP is my favorite player he is the reason i picked this team in 2005. now what i notice is swp has the robinho syndrome. you guys remember what that is right, micah richards had it and sturridge. this is when a player has been watching how magnificent robby talents are and tries to do the same. Watch how SWP since the 3rd game in the season has been trying to be a two footed dribbler. THIS IS THE PROBLEM. get back to your one footed sprints down the flank and stop worrying about being a smooth as robby. seriously people re watch the games and you will notice how he now tries to dribble with both feet. its not natural for him and has him thinking far more than he needs to when the ball is at his feet.

[Socrates]

here's my two cents. First SWP is my favorite player he is the reason i picked this team in 2005. now what i notice is swp has the robinho syndrome. you guys remember what that is right, micah richards had it and sturridge. this is when a player has been watching how magnificent robby talents are and tries to do the same. Watch how SWP since the 3rd game in the season has been trying to be a two footed dribbler. THIS IS THE PROBLEM. get back to your one footed sprints down the flank and stop worrying about being a smooth as robby. seriously people re watch the games and you will notice how he now tries to dribble with both feet. its not natural for him and has him thinking far more than he needs to when the ball is at his feet.

He was doing that at Chelsea. They ruined him. He needs the manager to tell him to just be himself.

[Rag_hater]

All season people have been saying SWP hasn't been beating his man and needs replacing.As if beating your man is the only reason he is on the pitch.
Even if he hasn't that is only a small part of what he does for the team.
Yesterday he cleared a ball of the line made some vital blocks relieved the pressure on us when we were under the cosh oh and made a prettty good assist along with the other 7 he has made this season.

[Socrates]

All season people have been saying SWP hasn't been beating his man and needs replacing.As if beating your man is the only reason he is on the pitch.
Even if he hasn't that is only a small part of what he does for the team.
Yesterday he cleared a ball of the line made some vital blocks relieved the pressure on us when we were under the cosh oh and made a prettty good assist along with the other 7 he has made this season.

Absolutely agree. Just want to see some of the old Shaun magic as well. I'm sure it's still in there.

[Vhero]

anyone remember the cross he put in for ade against arsenal and the goal he scored i didnt see anything but praise for him then instead of everyone picking one thing they didnt like about the game why not concentrate on the good stuff ie lescott had his best game since sighning and de jong was a monster for us today given made an awesome save and ireland put a few passes together that reminded me of last seasons form and most people on here were writing this and the chelsea game off as losses so we got a point more then most expected everyone just chiiiillll shauny is awesome, he had a bad game today and was still one of the best players on the pitch going forward because bellers wasnt doin anything and the turn to set ireland up was class plus he got a ridiculous header in defence stopped us conceding i mean cuuum on get weiss in and drop shaunyu people are either rags or smokin crack put him on at the end of games IIIFF were winning so he can get the experience but you cant just throw him on for 90 minutes like go win us the games because if he makes mistakes the papers and you lot will be writing about how hes not ready and hughes made another bad decision SMIIIIIILE MUVVAFUUKKASS

Yes, I remember...............two months ago now though, if I recall corretly.

He's been running in to the back of people like an expert ever since!!

Yep and you shouldn't play a player every game for 1 great ball. By that logic Benjani deserves to play in every match for his goal against the rags.

[Rag_hater]

here's my two cents. First SWP is my favorite player he is the reason i picked this team in 2005. now what i notice is swp has the robinho syndrome. you guys remember what that is right, micah richards had it and sturridge. this is when a player has been watching how magnificent robby talents are and tries to do the same. Watch how SWP since the 3rd game in the season has been trying to be a two footed dribbler. THIS IS THE PROBLEM. get back to your one footed sprints down the flank and stop worrying about being a smooth as robby. seriously people re watch the games and you will notice how he now tries to dribble with both feet. its not natural for him and has him thinking far more than he needs to when the ball is at his feet.

I agree with that too some extent and think we have been a bit spoiled with watching Robbie and how many times he does actually beat his men or keep possession.That if people are expecting SWP to be able to do that is asking a bit much.
Ones a world class player the other is international class.

[dazby]

When Sweep stops putting up his hand to take on the opposition, that's when he needs to be dropped. Having said that, Vlad should have had a couple more opportunities late in games by now.

[Bluez]

Why not give a chance to Weiss?

Because Weiss is still a youngster, if we threw him in now a number would expect him to be our saviour, couple of bad games they would boo him his confidence would be shot and that would be the end of that

[s1ty m]

i think other teams have worked him out. also, he can't cross and has never been able to. he is no way, not now and never anything like the player i thought we were getting back. shame, i love him.

[ant london]

Interestingly, he is one of only two City players who feature amongst the possible choices for Garth Crooks' Team of the Week on BBC.co.uk

Shaun Wright Phillips and Emmanuel Adebayor both feature and both were pretty shite per lots of posters

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I'm not sure why the need to be so critical of him. No, he doesn't stand out like he did, but he is still capapble of turning a game in a moment, he still provides us with an attacking threat, and he still works really hard for the team in his other duties. Careful what you wish for, Shauny is still a great player, and although I like and rate Weiss, it aint time to drop a proven performer for a kid with potential. Leave Shauny alone, he's doing fine.

[Slim]

I'm not sure why the need to be so critical of him. No, he doesn't stand out like he did, but he is still capapble of turning a game in a moment, he still provides us with an attacking threat, and he still works really hard for the team in his other duties. Careful what you wish for, Shauny is still a great player, and although I like and rate Weiss, it aint time to drop a proven performer for a kid with potential. Leave Shauny alone, he's doing fine.

Eventually we were going to agree on a player, glad it's Shauny.

[Renato_CTID]

Disagree all these strong critics on him! But I think Hughes could give him a little less space in the future, Shaunie played too much with City and England too recently! Time to see Weiss has come for me!

[lets all have a disco]

Why not give a chance to Weiss?

Because Weiss is still a youngster, if we threw him in now a number would expect him to be our saviour, couple of bad games they would boo him his confidence would be shot and that would be the end of that

It would be 3 games tops and Weiss would be ripped apart if he didnt do it.

[Rag_hater]

Interestingly, he is one of only two City players who feature amongst the possible choices for Garth Crooks' Team of the Week on BBC.co.uk

Shaun Wright Phillips and Emmanuel Adebayor both feature and both were pretty shite per lots of posters

Actim on Barclays Prem site also have him on team of the season so far aswell so it seems to me he has been pretty consistant.
I think he will be going to the world cup if he keeps up the level he is playing at.

[Goaters 103]

Why not give a chance to Weiss?

Because Weiss is still a youngster, if we threw him in now a number would expect him to be our saviour, couple of bad games they would boo him his confidence would be shot and that would be the end of that

It would be 3 games tops and Weiss would be ripped apart if he didnt do it.

And if we applied the logic above then no young player would ever get a shot. SWP certainly wouldn't have when he trotted in away at Port Vale in 1999, when we were a goal down at h-t.

Hull at home is just about the best gimme chance for a guy like Weiss to get a full game. Considering he's played quite a few games at full international level, I dont think the spectre of Hull City or Kevin Kilbane is likely to cause him too much fear is it.

[lets all have a disco]

Why not give a chance to Weiss?

Because Weiss is still a youngster, if we threw him in now a number would expect him to be our saviour, couple of bad games they would boo him his confidence would be shot and that would be the end of that

It would be 3 games tops and Weiss would be ripped apart if he didnt do it.

And if we applied the logic above then no young player would ever get a shot. SWP certainly wouldn't have when he trotted in away at Port Vale in 1999, when we were a goal down at h-t.

Hull at home is just about the best gimme chance for a guy like Weiss to get a full game. Considering he's played quite a few games at full international level, I dont think the spectre of Hull City or Kevin Kilbane is likely to cause him too much fear is it.

It was different in the past pal,we saw so much shit in the team youngers players were given the chance to shine as they were the only hope.
Its different now,if Miami didnt do it then there would be calls for two wingers in Jan.

Still,i want to see Miami in the Hull game OFF THE BENCH.

[Goaters 103]

Why not give a chance to Weiss?

Because Weiss is still a youngster, if we threw him in now a number would expect him to be our saviour, couple of bad games they would boo him his confidence would be shot and that would be the end of that

It would be 3 games tops and Weiss would be ripped apart if he didnt do it.

And if we applied the logic above then no young player would ever get a shot. SWP certainly wouldn't have when he trotted in away at Port Vale in 1999, when we were a goal down at h-t.

Hull at home is just about the best gimme chance for a guy like Weiss to get a full game. Considering he's played quite a few games at full international level, I dont think the spectre of Hull City or Kevin Kilbane is likely to cause him too much fear is it.

It was different in the past pal,we saw so much shit in the team youngers players were given the chance to shine as they were the only hope.
Its different now,if Miami didnt do it then there would be calls for two wingers in Jan.

Still,i want to see Miami in the Hull game OFF THE BENCH.

Think we will agree to disagree on this one LAHAD. I'd say the time for Weiss to get a shot is right now, also showing to all our youngsters that a route to the first team remains open even now we are awash with dosh.