What do we need?

[Green & Blue]

From what their board have said recently, it's the club who have turned us down not DeRossi. I recon we have bid what we think he's worth & they were after more & trying to take the piss. Now I think they're having 2nd thoughts & need the money.

Gerrard looks to me as if he still thinks he's 21. Unlike Scholes, who learned to use his brains, Gerrard is still trying to pull stunts all the time. If he did learn to play with intelligence, I think he could go on for years but, like Beckham, he's a bit thick.

Can't see us getting Bale; too expensive. If we wouldn't pay over the odds for Hazard, we won't do for him.

We should have payed over the odds for Hazard....and what the fuck is classed over the odds anyway..5 mill? 8 mill?....would have been worth it instead of shelling out for the likes of sinclair.
Not surpirsed Mancini was/is fucked off with Marwood.

Exactly we have paid over the odds for many a donkey so why not for Hazard, big big mistake on Citys behalf.

Who have we paid over the odds for ?

Seriously Ted ?

I would not know where to start.Since the Sheik took over we have been rode on numerous occasions.

[Slim]

From what their board have said recently, it's the club who have turned us down not DeRossi. I recon we have bid what we think he's worth & they were after more & trying to take the piss. Now I think they're having 2nd thoughts & need the money.

Gerrard looks to me as if he still thinks he's 21. Unlike Scholes, who learned to use his brains, Gerrard is still trying to pull stunts all the time. If he did learn to play with intelligence, I think he could go on for years but, like Beckham, he's a bit thick.

Can't see us getting Bale; too expensive. If we wouldn't pay over the odds for Hazard, we won't do for him.

We should have payed over the odds for Hazard....and what the fuck is classed over the odds anyway..5 mill? 8 mill?....would have been worth it instead of shelling out for the likes of sinclair.
Not surpirsed Mancini was/is fucked off with Marwood.

Exactly we have paid over the odds for many a donkey so why not for Hazard, big big mistake on Citys behalf.

Who have we paid over the odds for ?

Seriously Ted ?

I would not know where to start.Since the Sheik took over we have been rode on numerous occasions.

Kolarov, Kolo, Lescott, Boateng, Savic, Bellamy, Milner, Adebayor, Santa Cruz.

Not saying some of them haven't been good players, even good for us, but they were priced quite high for their actual value.

[Hazy2]

Milner and De Rossi would be 50 mill that you could not make up. Not saying we should have signed him but he had great season Song 16 mill. Wanyama was less than a mill. Sinclair/Rodwell need time to settle in and we will see. Rodwell was on the radar of most and he could be fantastic. He might also have peaked.

[Green & Blue]

You could also add to Slims list Robinho and it would be criminal to forget Wayne Bridge.

[Ted Hughes]

Kolarov, Kolo, Lescott, Boateng, Savic, Bellamy, Milner, Adebayor, Santa Cruz.

Not saying some of them haven't been good players, even good for us, but they were priced quite high for their actual value.

So barring Savic, who was a mistake rather than overpriced, we have clearly stopped paying over the odds for players since Khaldoon decreed it was going to end. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

It will need a change of policy to satisfy Mancini, not just a change of personnel. I'm sure he'll be allowed a big signing or two but if the new blokes have been given the same instructions as Marwood was, then only a few of the overpriced players Mancini wants will be signed, in fact now we have Tricky, who is much better connected than Marwood, it's even more likely that he will find younger, cheaper, lesser known alternatives to the mostly obvious & expensive players Bob tends to go for.

Either Khaldoon changes the rules or Bob is heading for more confrontation.

PS, seeing as he's filled the squad almost, he will have to sell players too.

[Hazy2]

Kolarov, Kolo, Lescott, Boateng, Savic, Bellamy, Milner, Adebayor, Santa Cruz.

Not saying some of them haven't been good players, even good for us, but they were priced quite high for their actual value.

So barring Savic, who was a mistake rather than overpriced, we have clearly stopped paying over the odds for players since Khaldoon decreed it was going to end. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

It will need a change of policy to satisfy Mancini, not just a change of personnel. I'm sure he'll be allowed a big signing or two but if the new blokes have been given the same instructions as Marwood was, then only a few of the overpriced players Mancini wants will be signed, in fact now we have Tricky, who is much better connected than Marwood, it's even more likely that he will find younger, cheaper, lesser known alternatives to the mostly obvious & expensive players Bob tends to go for.

Either Khaldoon changes the rules or Bob is heading for more confrontation.

PS, seeing as he's filled the squad almost, he will have to sell players too.

How would we say sell anyone. Not that I want some change or fire sale.

[Ted Hughes]

Kolarov, Kolo, Lescott, Boateng, Savic, Bellamy, Milner, Adebayor, Santa Cruz.

Not saying some of them haven't been good players, even good for us, but they were priced quite high for their actual value.

So barring Savic, who was a mistake rather than overpriced, we have clearly stopped paying over the odds for players since Khaldoon decreed it was going to end. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

It will need a change of policy to satisfy Mancini, not just a change of personnel. I'm sure he'll be allowed a big signing or two but if the new blokes have been given the same instructions as Marwood was, then only a few of the overpriced players Mancini wants will be signed, in fact now we have Tricky, who is much better connected than Marwood, it's even more likely that he will find younger, cheaper, lesser known alternatives to the mostly obvious & expensive players Bob tends to go for.

Either Khaldoon changes the rules or Bob is heading for more confrontation.

PS, seeing as he's filled the squad almost, he will have to sell players too.

How would we say sell anyone. Not that I want some change or fire sale.

Well we got rid of most of the dead wood in the summer, so if Mancini wants to keep on & on signing players, which it appears he does, having just signed 5 more, then either some of the players he's just signed will have to go, or some of the established squad will have to go. I don't know if we have space for 1 or 2 in the current squad, I haven't checked, but we are pretty close to capacity & also there is the home produced/club produced rules to take into account, so there may be no point in ditching Barry, Milner etc unless we have British replacements.

It's looking to me like we'll have to ditch some big names if we are to keep signing players from abroad each season. Kolo is obviously one but there will have to be a few surprise exits, possibly by popular players, similar to Nige's departure.

[Hazy2]

Kolarov, Kolo, Lescott, Boateng, Savic, Bellamy, Milner, Adebayor, Santa Cruz.

Not saying some of them haven't been good players, even good for us, but they were priced quite high for their actual value.

So barring Savic, who was a mistake rather than overpriced, we have clearly stopped paying over the odds for players since Khaldoon decreed it was going to end. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

It will need a change of policy to satisfy Mancini, not just a change of personnel. I'm sure he'll be allowed a big signing or two but if the new blokes have been given the same instructions as Marwood was, then only a few of the overpriced players Mancini wants will be signed, in fact now we have Tricky, who is much better connected than Marwood, it's even more likely that he will find younger, cheaper, lesser known alternatives to the mostly obvious & expensive players Bob tends to go for.

Either Khaldoon changes the rules or Bob is heading for more confrontation.

PS, seeing as he's filled the squad almost, he will have to sell players too.

Barry, has been great for me tidy and and decent. Milner needs to grab a shirt or Mancini and speak his mind or he is going to fade away. With all of our whinging . Mancini has a point we needed to buy big and be ready for all fronts, we now have the League to win, looking at it as true-blue if we can kick start it we could smash the rags and win it hands down. It could also be a tough weekend and Bobby gone by tea on Monday. There I am a blue.

[Ted Hughes]

Kolarov, Kolo, Lescott, Boateng, Savic, Bellamy, Milner, Adebayor, Santa Cruz.

Not saying some of them haven't been good players, even good for us, but they were priced quite high for their actual value.

So barring Savic, who was a mistake rather than overpriced, we have clearly stopped paying over the odds for players since Khaldoon decreed it was going to end. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

It will need a change of policy to satisfy Mancini, not just a change of personnel. I'm sure he'll be allowed a big signing or two but if the new blokes have been given the same instructions as Marwood was, then only a few of the overpriced players Mancini wants will be signed, in fact now we have Tricky, who is much better connected than Marwood, it's even more likely that he will find younger, cheaper, lesser known alternatives to the mostly obvious & expensive players Bob tends to go for.

Either Khaldoon changes the rules or Bob is heading for more confrontation.

PS, seeing as he's filled the squad almost, he will have to sell players too.

Barry, has been great for me tidy and and decent. Milner needs to grab a shirt or Mancini and speak his mind or he is going to fade away. With all of our whinging . Mancini has a point we needed to buy big and be ready for all fronts, we now have the League to win, looking at it as true-blue if we can kick start it we could smash the rags and win it hands down. It could also be a tough weekend and Bobby gone by tea on Monday. There I am a blue.

I think Barry has been a fantastic player for City (apart from his defending at corners) but I'm just looking at the squad & wondering how Bob is going to fit in all these signings that he constantly talks about.

[Hazy2]

Kolarov, Kolo, Lescott, Boateng, Savic, Bellamy, Milner, Adebayor, Santa Cruz.

Not saying some of them haven't been good players, even good for us, but they were priced quite high for their actual value.

So barring Savic, who was a mistake rather than overpriced, we have clearly stopped paying over the odds for players since Khaldoon decreed it was going to end. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

It will need a change of policy to satisfy Mancini, not just a change of personnel. I'm sure he'll be allowed a big signing or two but if the new blokes have been given the same instructions as Marwood was, then only a few of the overpriced players Mancini wants will be signed, in fact now we have Tricky, who is much better connected than Marwood, it's even more likely that he will find younger, cheaper, lesser known alternatives to the mostly obvious & expensive players Bob tends to go for.

Either Khaldoon changes the rules or Bob is heading for more confrontation.

PS, seeing as he's filled the squad almost, he will have to sell players too.

Barry, has been great for me tidy and and decent. Milner needs to grab a shirt or Mancini and speak his mind or he is going to fade away. With all of our whinging . Mancini has a point we needed to buy big and be ready for all fronts, we now have the League to win, looking at it as true-blue if we can kick start it we could smash the rags and win it hands down. It could also be a tough weekend and Bobby gone by tea on Monday. There I am a blue.

I think Barry has been a fantastic player for City (apart from his defending at corners) but I'm just looking at the squad & wondering how Bob is going to fit in all these signings that he constantly talks about.

If we need one thing it is some pace and some width, BALE. we have not seen the link up play that gets Zabba in close to the bye line, and I never thought I would say THIS. the impact of Adam Johnson and of course his chipping in with his goals. for me we are all down the middle and caught out with a mis placed pass or YaYa out of position, in fact all seasonr we have not had what you called a real periods of pressure, I said it the other night the out ball for them was a piss take Ericson showed and bang pressure off, last season it was teamd shit scared of the power De Jong gave us that platform when used to crack on as he was happy as a pig in shit to patrol the areas which now look like the desert at times.

[Sideshow Bob]

imo, we need rid of nearly all the summer signings....one of the worst windows since the takeover, imo, especially considering who else was available. garcia was never and never will be a patch on de rossi. rodders a sick note and inconsistent. maicon and sinclair? well...

[Hazy2]

He has sent out Platt today, is this what it would be like if Jose stopped of here on his way to the swamp, Games with the press. They love him at Chelsea would they do the same here. the start of teh conference was all about is he ok, are you sure Platt being flippant and sarci.

[Ted Hughes]

Kolarov, Kolo, Lescott, Boateng, Savic, Bellamy, Milner, Adebayor, Santa Cruz.

Not saying some of them haven't been good players, even good for us, but they were priced quite high for their actual value.

So barring Savic, who was a mistake rather than overpriced, we have clearly stopped paying over the odds for players since Khaldoon decreed it was going to end. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

It will need a change of policy to satisfy Mancini, not just a change of personnel. I'm sure he'll be allowed a big signing or two but if the new blokes have been given the same instructions as Marwood was, then only a few of the overpriced players Mancini wants will be signed, in fact now we have Tricky, who is much better connected than Marwood, it's even more likely that he will find younger, cheaper, lesser known alternatives to the mostly obvious & expensive players Bob tends to go for.

Either Khaldoon changes the rules or Bob is heading for more confrontation.

PS, seeing as he's filled the squad almost, he will have to sell players too.

Barry, has been great for me tidy and and decent. Milner needs to grab a shirt or Mancini and speak his mind or he is going to fade away. With all of our whinging . Mancini has a point we needed to buy big and be ready for all fronts, we now have the League to win, looking at it as true-blue if we can kick start it we could smash the rags and win it hands down. It could also be a tough weekend and Bobby gone by tea on Monday. There I am a blue.

I think Barry has been a fantastic player for City (apart from his defending at corners) but I'm just looking at the squad & wondering how Bob is going to fit in all these signings that he constantly talks about.

If we need one thing it is some pace and some width, BALE. we have not seen the link up play that gets Zabba in close to the bye line, and I never thought I would say THIS. the impact of Adam Johnson and of course his chipping in with his goals. for me we are all down the middle and caught out with a mis placed pass or YaYa out of position, in fact all seasonr we have not had what you called a real periods of pressure, I said it the other night the out ball for them was a piss take Ericson showed and bang pressure off, last season it was teamd shit scared of the power De Jong gave us that platform when used to crack on as he was happy as a pig in shit to patrol the areas which now look like the desert at times.

De Jong played in the earlier games when people such as Southampton ran riot in those areas. He was hopeless at the start of the season & he is hopeless now for Milan.

[Hazy2]

we will see soon enough if we ahve a problem Spurs will use Bale to come inside and join Defoe.

[Swales4ever]

We need Kolarov starting.

100 percent we dont, really handy to have a LB who doesnt defend.

I almost settled on the same idea along last spring till season end -credit's where credit's due to merit - but defensive wise, the Gael of this season so for is little short to an embarrassment: make no mistake, what he made in order to concede the 2nd (saying it with no intention to crucify a Lad of Ours) on Tuesday, is something that only one coach could fix: the Holy Spirit!

I watch quite a lot of it & not only do I struggle to find players like DeRossi, I struggle to find players in any position who would greatly improve City's squad. There are lots of 'maybe's but only a handful of definites & those are either unattainable or very very expensive. Most of the players who play a decent game or two v City, get threads on the net with scores of City fans saying 'sign him' but when you watch most of them, they are not doing better in their own leagues than the player they would replace at City is already doing, for City, in the Prem.

The absolute definite, 100% nailed on certainty to improve our squad was Hazard imo. With us, he would be twice the player he is at Chelsea already.

But IF DeRossi is fit enough, I recon he's as close to a 100% certainty to be a success at City as you could possibly get.

Hazard is great isn't he. I mean we still have to wait and see if he develops even further. However... His decision making and football intelligence is really excellent considering he's what, 12 (21). Most players at that age are naive in comparison.

Stop being "cheap", Pal.
Our Teddy, after having taught for almost a whole Academic Year, what actually we did have need to progress, decided that the preservation of the Sacred Image of "the most effective pub-football's Sporting Director of all times" comes ahead everything else, and accordingly he withdrew that chapter from His predicament of the present Academic Year.
Like every Erudite, though, he still knows.

Same knew another football connoisseur, the MCFC manager, who in fact agreed with Owner and Chairman to purchase Hazard and De Rossi: unfortunately something went wrong, but nobody is allowed to claim what [there is no evidence, They said!]

We know what went wrong; they refused to sell DeRossi. It was mentioned at their board meeting recently & has been repeated again, so it is now public knowledge. No amount of made up, bullshit stories can change that. It is possible that they will decide to sell him now, as they are struggling & he is apparently pissed off with it all.

It is also possible that the Spaniards will refuse to let Mancini buy him, as they have much more power than the previous bloke.

I seriously love Ya, MAN. I really seriously do, Pal!

I am not the first to mention that You seems bored of late, looking for some hardcore fun.
Only made up is all about refusing to look at plain reality: the last two windows had been conducted in the most blatant amateurish manner, rarely, if ever, experienced in the whole world of business (not football's only) of level comparable to City size of investment.
You keep using the most basic artifice in rhetorical: hit back to reality by calling it the opposite name, or, more properly, accusing the opposite thesis of Your own thesis's fault.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Being_Right - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parerga_and_Paralipomena)

It has been said in advance, it got real: the bloke's bluff has been called, the anticipated replacement had be made by the vertex of the Club, with the exact persons that were anticipated in advance (not because of any sort of widespread divination, but just because the Club who aims to fulfil every blank space with the best, had long chased for Soriano as CEO and Berguistein as SD) but HEY, OH, YOU, one of the most intelligent, long-sighting and smart Person, in and out the internet, keep stirring the nonsense.
and to say it all, I have a gut feeling You will keep it going, even when, the subsequent two windows will prove that the pair of a FULL TIME SENIOR CEO and a SENIOR SPORTING DIRECTOR, will prove the eezz normal for a POWERFUL, PROFESSIONALLY RUNNED COMPANY, to have Its MAIN targets signed in time and for fair market values, if not for a bargain or two (You know, almost like a Barcelona FC signing Cesc Fabregas for almost the same money of Rodwell, or Alexis Sanchez for very little more money than Nasri, short from free-agency).
You might stir the porridge as long as You like, using all the subtle shapes that Your smart mind will enjoy most, but the reality will still remain that Soriano and Berguistein would have had Hazard signing that fucking contract before he left Manchester after the derby, welllllllllll before Abramovich had reloaded its guns!
Also, and TRUST me = 100 pct FREE of ITK bullshit, I happened to fly to Manchester seated next to a member of the Club staff, few weeks after the MISARABLE closing of the last window, which saw a desperate Mancini, SINFULLY , sanctioning any possible supposed replacement of the agreed targets, available through a totally incompetent negotiation repeated for the second year in a row, and I had been confirmed what appeared me an obvious, logical inference, which I posted to Your kind attention, when I tried to counter one of Your countless attempts to deny the obvious (so called MARWOODSHITE stirred all summer long, mainly thanks to several wind-ups by You, which saw the forum folks hitting at each other throat):
the chase for De Rossi has been conducted with a couple of shy, useless, informal statements of intent, at sub-market value level of money, and ONLY when the manager went public with his desperation and concerns, and forced the Chairman to look deeply into it, a formal offer, almost for the amount needed to have a ROMA FC, full of debts inherited by the new American Ownership, surrendering, cash on and allow the "SON OF ROME" to leave without being labelled as a TRAITOR, had been filed. Too late, to push on it, with any possible effectiveness needed to sort it out.
Are You REALLY trying and suggesting that the powerful MCFC, owned by the powerfull ADUG, cannot have the better of a skint Italian Club, from a League in decline, desperately in the need of any fresh money?????
Yet again, there is a thread from this summer, where and when You had been told - in advance - of the logic interpretation of the inane pursuit of that bid, what should have been done to seal it, but NOT, You still feel the need to stir this - let's call it "personal opinion", for the sake of the respect that I pay and feel for You - after several months from the window's closing, after that the Club ahd made REAL bold statement with two appointements of the quality that was claimed needed to replace INCOMPETENCE, in the precise moment when the CLUB need unity and support to pass by a dodgy moment and progress further on!
And You have also been already recalled of the importance to have THE MOST AUTHORATIVE AND RESPECTED VOICES, tuned on positive mood when chill winds are blowing.

I sweared on the board that I would have not took part in stirring this disruptive shite any more, and twice the more obviously NOW, that it ended with the BEST PERSONNEL to take care of the Club's future interests........... but HONESTLY, keep reading a GREAT BLUE, A SMART PERSON, A FINE CONNOISSEUR OF FOOTBALL making the Brennan (I mean, not the Spencer. for respect sake once again) week in and out, really WIND ME UP! IT?S BLOODY USELESS.

I know You are not prepared to bet on Your "opinions" but, yet again, I will back any bet on my opinion that Mancini will see out his contract, the Club won't jump in any leap in the dark with a managerial swap, and the next transfer window will see the agreed targets, if any, delivered in proper and due time by the pair of Senior Professional NOW in charge with those tasks.

that's in my very humble opinion. In the genuine hope to have this silly, useless thing stopped here, also because it takes me a considerable effort and pain to try and dissertate, serious arguments, in an even barely acceptable english language,

I still LOVE AND APPRECIATE YA, MAN.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

>>>>If we need one thing it is some pace and some width


That's two things.
But you're right.
Sinclair should be used a little more.

[tikatakamcfc]

im gonna get slated for this...but, a new manager. and to let go of a number of the training staff.
these problems have been there since the beginning of the season and its not been fixed..not even close.

I agree.
Would have been even more harsh and direct, but that will do.

We need a new manager. Sooner or later, everyone will come around and realise that.

[Ted Hughes]

We need Kolarov starting.

100 percent we dont, really handy to have a LB who doesnt defend.

I almost settled on the same idea along last spring till season end -credit's where credit's due to merit - but defensive wise, the Gael of this season so for is little short to an embarrassment: make no mistake, what he made in order to concede the 2nd (saying it with no intention to crucify a Lad of Ours) on Tuesday, is something that only one coach could fix: the Holy Spirit!

I watch quite a lot of it & not only do I struggle to find players like DeRossi, I struggle to find players in any position who would greatly improve City's squad. There are lots of 'maybe's but only a handful of definites & those are either unattainable or very very expensive. Most of the players who play a decent game or two v City, get threads on the net with scores of City fans saying 'sign him' but when you watch most of them, they are not doing better in their own leagues than the player they would replace at City is already doing, for City, in the Prem.

The absolute definite, 100% nailed on certainty to improve our squad was Hazard imo. With us, he would be twice the player he is at Chelsea already.

But IF DeRossi is fit enough, I recon he's as close to a 100% certainty to be a success at City as you could possibly get.

Hazard is great isn't he. I mean we still have to wait and see if he develops even further. However... His decision making and football intelligence is really excellent considering he's what, 12 (21). Most players at that age are naive in comparison.

Stop being "cheap", Pal.
Our Teddy, after having taught for almost a whole Academic Year, what actually we did have need to progress, decided that the preservation of the Sacred Image of "the most effective pub-football's Sporting Director of all times" comes ahead everything else, and accordingly he withdrew that chapter from His predicament of the present Academic Year.
Like every Erudite, though, he still knows.

Same knew another football connoisseur, the MCFC manager, who in fact agreed with Owner and Chairman to purchase Hazard and De Rossi: unfortunately something went wrong, but nobody is allowed to claim what [there is no evidence, They said!]

We know what went wrong; they refused to sell DeRossi. It was mentioned at their board meeting recently & has been repeated again, so it is now public knowledge. No amount of made up, bullshit stories can change that. It is possible that they will decide to sell him now, as they are struggling & he is apparently pissed off with it all.

It is also possible that the Spaniards will refuse to let Mancini buy him, as they have much more power than the previous bloke.

I seriously love Ya, MAN. I really seriously do, Pal!

I am not the first to mention that You seems bored of late, looking for some hardcore fun.
Only made up is all about refusing to look at plain reality: the last two windows had been conducted in the most blatant amateurish manner, rarely, if ever, experienced in the whole world of business (not football's only) of level comparable to City size of investment.
You keep using the most basic artifice in rhetorical: hit back to reality by calling it the opposite name, or, more properly, accusing the opposite thesis of Your own thesis's fault.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Being_Right - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parerga_and_Paralipomena)

It has been said in advance, it got real: the bloke's bluff has been called, the anticipated replacement had be made by the vertex of the Club, with the exact persons that were anticipated in advance (not because of any sort of widespread divination, but just because the Club who aims to fulfil every blank space with the best, had long chased for Soriano as CEO and Berguistein as SD) but HEY, OH, YOU, one of the most intelligent, long-sighting and smart Person, in and out the internet, keep stirring the nonsense.
and to say it all, I have a gut feeling You will keep it going, even when, the subsequent two windows will prove that the pair of a FULL TIME SENIOR CEO and a SENIOR SPORTING DIRECTOR, will prove the eezz normal for a POWERFUL, PROFESSIONALLY RUNNED COMPANY, to have Its MAIN targets signed in time and for fair market values, if not for a bargain or two (You know, almost like a Barcelona FC signing Cesc Fabregas for almost the same money of Rodwell, or Alexis Sanchez for very little more money than Nasri, short from free-agency).
You might stir the porridge as long as You like, using all the subtle shapes that Your smart mind will enjoy most, but the reality will still remain that Soriano and Berguistein would have had Hazard signing that fucking contract before he left Manchester after the derby, welllllllllll before Abramovich had reloaded its guns!
Also, and TRUST me = 100 pct FREE of ITK bullshit, I happened to fly to Manchester seated next to a member of the Club staff, few weeks after the MISARABLE closing of the last window, which saw a desperate Mancini, SINFULLY , sanctioning any possible supposed replacement of the agreed targets, available through a totally incompetent negotiation repeated for the second year in a row, and I had been confirmed what appeared me an obvious, logical inference, which I posted to Your kind attention, when I tried to counter one of Your countless attempts to deny the obvious (so called MARWOODSHITE stirred all summer long, mainly thanks to several wind-ups by You, which saw the forum folks hitting at each other throat):
the chase for De Rossi has been conducted with a couple of shy, useless, informal statements of intent, at sub-market value level of money, and ONLY when the manager went public with his desperation and concerns, and forced the Chairman to look deeply into it, a formal offer, almost for the amount needed to have a ROMA FC, full of debts inherited by the new American Ownership, surrendering, cash on and allow the "SON OF ROME" to leave without being labelled as a TRAITOR, had been filed. Too late, to push on it, with any possible effectiveness needed to sort it out.
Are You REALLY trying and suggesting that the powerful MCFC, owned by the powerfull ADUG, cannot have the better of a skint Italian Club, from a League in decline, desperately in the need of any fresh money?????
Yet again, there is a thread from this summer, where and when You had been told - in advance - of the logic interpretation of the inane pursuit of that bid, what should have been done to seal it, but NOT, You still feel the need to stir this - let's call it "personal opinion", for the sake of the respect that I pay and feel for You - after several months from the window's closing, after that the Club ahd made REAL bold statement with two appointements of the quality that was claimed needed to replace INCOMPETENCE, in the precise moment when the CLUB need unity and support to pass by a dodgy moment and progress further on!
And You have also been already recalled of the importance to have THE MOST AUTHORATIVE AND RESPECTED VOICES, tuned on positive mood when chill winds are blowing.

I sweared on the board that I would have not took part in stirring this disruptive shite any more, and twice the more obviously NOW, that it ended with the BEST PERSONNEL to take care of the Club's future interests........... but HONESTLY, keep reading a GREAT BLUE, A SMART PERSON, A FINE CONNOISSEUR OF FOOTBALL making the Brennan (I mean, not the Spencer. for respect sake once again) week in and out, really WIND ME UP! IT?S BLOODY USELESS.

I know You are not prepared to bet on Your "opinions" but, yet again, I will back any bet on my opinion that Mancini will see out his contract, the Club won't jump in any leap in the dark with a managerial swap, and the next transfer window will see the agreed targets, if any, delivered in proper and due time by the pair of Senior Professional NOW in charge with those tasks.

that's in my very humble opinion. In the genuine hope to have this silly, useless thing stopped here, also because it takes me a considerable effort and pain to try and dissertate, serious arguments, in an even barely acceptable english language,

I still LOVE AND APPRECIATE YA, MAN.

Sorry Mancio but I can't be arsed reading all that.

I have no intention of getting into it all at that that kind of level.

You are happy to speculate on certain things & state as if they are facts but then go berserk when people dare to speculate on Mancini.

[Swales4ever]

Sorry Mancio but I can't be arsed reading all that.

As usual, when You run short of wind-up flair.... ;)

No problem Pal,
not saying that it may not be a pain in the arse, tho (reading it, I mean).
It was for me as well in writing for about a couple of hours.
But not as much pain as I feel anytime I read that kind of stuff from a brother in logic, a smart mind of the finest order and a Knight of Blue-hood.
When I won't have to read anymore reports from the cloister of boards meeting, or presumed intentions from Soriano and Berguistein, sold for proved facts from the voice of a righteously Much Respected Leader of the Blues, it will have achieved my sole point.

[Ted Hughes]

Sorry Mancio but I can't be arsed reading all that.

As usual, when You run short of wind-up flair.... ;)

No problem Pal,
not saying that it may not be a pain in the arse, tho (reading it, I mean).
It was for me as well in writing for about a couple of hours.
But not as much pain as I feel anytime I read that kind of stuff from a brother in logic, a smart mind of the finest order and a Knight of Blue-hood.
When I won't have to read anymore reports from the cloister of boards meeting, or presumed intentions from Soriano and Berguistein, sold for proved facts from the voice of a righteously Much Respected Leader of the Blues, it will have achieved my sole point.

Because people have opinions that are different to yours, doesn't mean that they are not serious.

I've no idea what you're going on about as regards mine. I don't know what you think my opinion actually is but just to put you straight; I do not wish for or expect Mancini to be sacked. I expect he will improve on the current situation & get us into the top two, & that will be enough to keep Sheikh Mansour & Khaldoon on his side, even if the new guys advise against it. In fact I think we will win the league, thus making his position stronger.

If however he makes a mess of it & the team cannot improve, I think he's absolutely fucked. I don't think the contract matters because someone smart, like Khaldoon, (with influence from Soriano who has known he was taking over since last season) will have put clauses in it.

Before Tricky came, I would have said he'll get another season whatever happens, but having read up on Tricky, he is not afraid to make big decisions & worships the ground Pep walks on. If Bob goes to shit, Tricky will advise that we take Guardiola & possibly even other managers should that bid fail.

If we lose to Utd, you will see how quickly the situation can change for Bob. Most of the posts on here & elsewhere will be from people who want him sacked. I won't be one of them.

As for Marwood, I posted a piece by Mike Rigg, showing exactly how the system worked for transfers etc (which I knew anyway) and many of the people involved in setting up our transfer deals were moved on or resigned (obviously to make way for the new guys). Marwood was treading water with no CEO, & several of his main employees who do the groundwork & had previously been involved in transfer aquisitions such as Hazard, gone, & restrictions on the transfer budget. You could ask whether that was a good plan or not but it certainly wasn't Marwood's plan.

The slating he got is grossly unfair imo. I don't give a shit about Marwood even so, but it's the main thing I dislike about how Mancini operates & I think we'll see more of it in the future.

Those are my honest opinions & I will continue to believe them. If you want to discuss the actual subjects then fine, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I'm not reading through 10 paragraphs of stuff questioning whether I am genuine or not & have no interest in having to defend my right to voice those opinions.