Dzeko

[Im_Spartacus]

Adam Johnson syndrome ... shit when he starts, game changer as a sub.

Its not though is it.

When he comes on and we are chasing a win with ever more desperation, he gets actual chances.

When we are fucking about being toothless around the area between the centre circle and the box, he is as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Its like playing Aguero with a Big Fat Sam style of play, he would be sniffing off scraps, not the player he is in a team who plays it on the deck.

I'm increasingly leaning to criticise the manager for not integrating Dzeko when he starts him. The manager keeps picking him, and then isolating him, its fucking pointless

[Feed The Goat]

Its not though is it.

When he comes on and we are chasing a win with ever more desperation, he gets actual chances.

When we are fucking about being toothless around the area between the centre circle and the box, he is as much use as a chocolate fireguard

That's it for me.

If we played with a winger when he started and got him some service he would score loads.

[Slim]

Its not though is it.

When he comes on and we are chasing a win with ever more desperation, he gets actual chances.

When we are fucking about being toothless around the area between the centre circle and the box, he is as much use as a chocolate fireguard

That's it for me.

If we played with a winger when he started and got him some service he would score loads.

I think he is more suited to the 3-5-2, with Kolarov, Clichy and Maicon we have three wide players who can deliver quality, when we switched formations I knew Tevez off for Dzeko was on it's way. However, this is not a formation I would like to see us starting with, when we are bossing the middle, hogging the possession, then it's time to use it, and bring on Dzeko.

[Ted Hughes]

I think he could play in our system but just needs to concentrate more. He tries little flicks & tricks sometimes and loses the ball when all we require is for him to control it & pass it. He just needs to work hard & keep it simple.

At a lower level, the Goat used to do the same when we first signed him, trying to beat players at the halfway line & losing possession but they got him to keep it simple & he became really good at it, rarely doing anything spectacular in the build up but rarely losing the ball either.

The goal that Dzeko scored yesterday was a prime example of how he can fit in; pass it to Silva, move, score. No winger needed.

[Slim]

I think he could play in our system but just needs to concentrate more. He tries little flicks & tricks sometimes and loses the ball when all we require is for him to control it & pass it. He just needs to work hard & keep it simple.

At a lower level, the Goat used to do the same when we first signed him, trying to beat players at the halfway line & losing possession but they got him to keep it simple & he became really good at it, rarely doing anything spectacular in the build up but rarely losing the ball either.

The goal that Dzeko scored yesterday was a prime example of how he can fit in; pass it to Silva, move, score. No winger needed.

BTW Ted, you said earlier you couldn't remember him being exceptional in any game ever...Spurs, last season, 4 goals.

Take fish oil, will help your memory.

[Ted Hughes]

I think he could play in our system but just needs to concentrate more. He tries little flicks & tricks sometimes and loses the ball when all we require is for him to control it & pass it. He just needs to work hard & keep it simple.

At a lower level, the Goat used to do the same when we first signed him, trying to beat players at the halfway line & losing possession but they got him to keep it simple & he became really good at it, rarely doing anything spectacular in the build up but rarely losing the ball either.

The goal that Dzeko scored yesterday was a prime example of how he can fit in; pass it to Silva, move, score. No winger needed.

BTW Ted, you said earlier you couldn't remember him being exceptional in any game ever...Spurs, last season, 4 goals.

Take fish oil, will help your memory.

He had a pretty outstanding game v Arsenal in the League cup too tbf. Just proves he can do it in this system if he puts his mind to it. No real excuse for all the average & poor games imo, he just needs to produce when given a start, end of.

[Hazy2]

I think he could play in our system but just needs to concentrate more. He tries little flicks & tricks sometimes and loses the ball when all we require is for him to control it & pass it. He just needs to work hard & keep it simple.

At a lower level, the Goat used to do the same when we first signed him, trying to beat players at the halfway line & losing possession but they got him to keep it simple & he became really good at it, rarely doing anything spectacular in the build up but rarely losing the ball either.

The goal that Dzeko scored yesterday was a prime example of how he can fit in; pass it to Silva, move, score. No winger needed.

BTW Ted, you said earlier you couldn't remember him being exceptional in any game ever...Spurs, last season, 4 goals.

Take fish oil, will help your memory.

He had a pretty outstanding game v Arsenal in the League cup too tbf. Just proves he can do it in this system if he puts his mind to it. No real excuse for all the average & poor games imo, he just needs to produce when given a start, end of.

Dzeko is goals he could improve a lot of his game, for me I feel he could be 30 goals this season, Maicon is gonna feed this boy Breakfast Dinner and Tea, some of teh balls in 2nd half were fantastic bring on the rags who are gonna be coming down to earth with a bump against us we looked awsome 2nd half at times.

[tikatakamcfc]

Adam Johnson syndrome ... shit when he starts, game changer as a sub.

Its not though is it.

When he comes on and we are chasing a win with ever more desperation, he gets actual chances.

When we are fucking about being toothless around the area between the centre circle and the box, he is as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Its like playing Aguero with a Big Fat Sam style of play, he would be sniffing off scraps, not the player he is in a team who plays it on the deck.

I'm increasingly leaning to criticise the manager for not integrating Dzeko when he starts him. The manager keeps picking him, and then isolating him, its fucking pointless

Right on!

If we played more determined and more directly entire match, from the beggining, not just at the end (when we dont have time to circle around), then Dzeko would score as a starter.

[Swales4ever]

I think he could play in our system but just needs to concentrate more. He tries little flicks & tricks sometimes and loses the ball when all we require is for him to control it & pass it. He just needs to work hard & keep it simple.

At a lower level, the Goat used to do the same when we first signed him, trying to beat players at the halfway line & losing possession but they got him to keep it simple & he became really good at it, rarely doing anything spectacular in the build up but rarely losing the ball either.

The goal that Dzeko scored yesterday was a prime example of how he can fit in; pass it to Silva, move, score. No winger needed.

I think Your thought is spot on and moreso it's more than a thought, as we saw it early last season.
Spuds away spring to mind in first place, particularly for when he bagged the wonder shot in the upper left corner, as the terminal end of a passing and move action, which involved him.

as for us adjusting our style to please the Bosnian National Pride, in my life I only saw two players worth that exception to the main rule: Diego Armando Maradona and Lionel Messi.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

As I said the other day he would score shitloads for the rags. He looks better when he comes on because we play with more urgency,tempo and higher up the pitch.I hate it when we fanny around with the ball with no real purpose. There seems to be a general feeling that playing with wingers is 'anti football' or 'old fashioned' but it really isn't.

[Im_Spartacus]

As I said the other day he would score shitloads for the rags. He looks better when he comes on because we play with more urgency,tempo and higher up the pitch.I hate it when we fanny around with the ball with no real purpose. There seems to be a general feeling that playing with wingers is 'anti football' or 'old fashioned' but it really isn't.

Dont think i've ever agreed with you before. The key word is purpose.

I kind of get the feeling that Mancini's idea is that keep the possession high for 60 minutes to take the fight out of the opposition, and on the basis that if we have the ball the oppo cant score, then try and step it up a gear. Problem is we are generally 1.0 down by the time we reach 60 mins, and we cant defend the one set piece the opponents will inevitably score from.

I can see his thinking, but with the quality at his disposal, he really needs to actually think of tactics that work best for the players he selects, not sticking to a format and throwing in random players hoping they fit.

[Swales4ever]

As I said the other day he would score shitloads for the rags. He looks better when he comes on because we play with more urgency,tempo and higher up the pitch.I hate it when we fanny around with the ball with no real purpose. There seems to be a general feeling that playing with wingers is 'anti football' or 'old fashioned' but it really isn't.

Dont think i've ever agreed with you before. The key word is purpose.

I kind of get the feeling that Mancini's idea is that keep the possession high for 60 minutes to take the fight out of the opposition, and on the basis that if we have the ball the oppo cant score, then try and step it up a gear. Problem is we are generally 1.0 down by the time we reach 60 mins, and we cant defend the one set piece the opponents will inevitably score from.

I can see his thinking, but with the quality at his disposal, he really needs to actually think of tactics that work best for the players he selects, not sticking to a format and throwing in random players hoping they fit.

I disagree completely, Mate.
It's a proven fact that what Mancini only can think is to bottle games.
only question of time, though.
only unanswered question is whether his sacking or Manure sinking shall come first.

[Im_Spartacus]

I disagree completely, Mate.
It's a proven fact that what Mancini only can think is to bottle games.
only question of time, though.
only unanswered question is whether his sacking or Manure sinking shall come first.

Grow up, dont know who you are aiming this shit at, or what point you are trying to make, but you are coming across more like palus every day

[Bridge'srightfoot]

As I said the other day he would score shitloads for the rags. He looks better when he comes on because we play with more urgency,tempo and higher up the pitch.I hate it when we fanny around with the ball with no real purpose. There seems to be a general feeling that playing with wingers is 'anti football' or 'old fashioned' but it really isn't.

Dont think i've ever agreed with you before. The key word is purpose.

I kind of get the feeling that Mancini's idea is that keep the possession high for 60 minutes to take the fight out of the opposition, and on the basis that if we have the ball the oppo cant score, then try and step it up a gear. Problem is we are generally 1.0 down by the time we reach 60 mins, and we cant defend the one set piece the opponents will inevitably score from.

I can see his thinking, but with the quality at his disposal, he really needs to actually think of tactics that work best for the players he selects, not sticking to a format and throwing in random players hoping they fit.

What annoys me most is that when we step it up a gear, play with a greater tempo and move the ball around quicker with purpose we look ustoppable. So I don't get why we don't start game like that, get a couple of early goals rather than having to sweat it out at the end. It makes no sense. Why wait till we're a goal down before we step it up? The last two games are perfect examples of this. How many goals have the rags got in the last 3 seasons from just getting the ball quickly out wide to Valencia, crossing it in and someone getting on the end of it.

[Original Dub]

What annoys me most is that when we step it up a gear, play with a greater tempo and move the ball around quicker with purpose we look ustoppable. So I don't get why we don't start game like that, get a couple of early goals rather than having to sweat it out at the end. It makes no sense. Why wait till we're a goal down before we step it up? The last two games are perfect examples of this. How many goals have the rags got in the last 3 seasons from just getting the ball quickly out wide to Valencia, crossing it in and someone getting on the end of it.

Forget the rags.

They are nothing like us. I do agree that we need to start with a high tempo and that's exactly what we did last season.

The rags have been getting out wide and swinging it in as far back as I can remember.

[mr_nool]

As I said the other day he would score shitloads for the rags. He looks better when he comes on because we play with more urgency,tempo and higher up the pitch.I hate it when we fanny around with the ball with no real purpose. There seems to be a general feeling that playing with wingers is 'anti football' or 'old fashioned' but it really isn't.

Dont think i've ever agreed with you before. The key word is purpose.

I kind of get the feeling that Mancini's idea is that keep the possession high for 60 minutes to take the fight out of the opposition, and on the basis that if we have the ball the oppo cant score, then try and step it up a gear. Problem is we are generally 1.0 down by the time we reach 60 mins, and we cant defend the one set piece the opponents will inevitably score from.

I can see his thinking, but with the quality at his disposal, he really needs to actually think of tactics that work best for the players he selects, not sticking to a format and throwing in random players hoping they fit.

What annoys me most is that when we step it up a gear, play with a greater tempo and move the ball around quicker with purpose we look ustoppable. So I don't get why we don't start game like that, get a couple of early goals rather than having to sweat it out at the end. It makes no sense. Why wait till we're a goal down before we step it up? The last two games are perfect examples of this. How many goals have the rags got in the last 3 seasons from just getting the ball quickly out wide to Valencia, crossing it in and someone getting on the end of it.

I think we did yesterday. We put them under pressure really high up the pitch and I felt that we would have killed them hadn't they gotten that goal. That knocked the wind out of us temporarily, but we came back with great purpose and directness in the second half, which finally gave result.

[zuricity]

Its not though is it.

When he comes on and we are chasing a win with ever more desperation, he gets actual chances.

When we are fucking about being toothless around the area between the centre circle and the box, he is as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Its like playing Aguero with a Big Fat Sam style of play, he would be sniffing off scraps, not the player he is in a team who plays it on the deck.

I'm increasingly leaning to criticise the manager for not integrating Dzeko when he starts him. The manager keeps picking him, and then isolating him, its fucking pointless

thanks for that , you've saved me the time to explain it .

It's no use starting any attacker and not playing to their strengths.

Furthermore all that pussyfooting around the edge of the box doesn't help any striker that much. All he can do is be on his toes, ready.

Samir , David , Yaya and Carlos need the stikers to move into space. we move the ball around very fast and both balo and Edin , even Kun would be knackered before half time with the movement needed.

It's a difficult choice berween lying low and waiting or rushing around like a blue arsed fly.

Also, for those going on about lack of first touch, usually kun , edin or mario must kill the ball to get the shot in, none of the midfielders have to do this , they are more often than not , moving the ball around. waiting for the right opening.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

As I said the other day he would score shitloads for the rags. He looks better when he comes on because we play with more urgency,tempo and higher up the pitch.I hate it when we fanny around with the ball with no real purpose. There seems to be a general feeling that playing with wingers is 'anti football' or 'old fashioned' but it really isn't.

Dont think i've ever agreed with you before. The key word is purpose.

I kind of get the feeling that Mancini's idea is that keep the possession high for 60 minutes to take the fight out of the opposition, and on the basis that if we have the ball the oppo cant score, then try and step it up a gear. Problem is we are generally 1.0 down by the time we reach 60 mins, and we cant defend the one set piece the opponents will inevitably score from.

I can see his thinking, but with the quality at his disposal, he really needs to actually think of tactics that work best for the players he selects, not sticking to a format and throwing in random players hoping they fit.

What annoys me most is that when we step it up a gear, play with a greater tempo and move the ball around quicker with purpose we look ustoppable. So I don't get why we don't start game like that, get a couple of early goals rather than having to sweat it out at the end. It makes no sense. Why wait till we're a goal down before we step it up? The last two games are perfect examples of this. How many goals have the rags got in the last 3 seasons from just getting the ball quickly out wide to Valencia, crossing it in and someone getting on the end of it.

I think we did yesterday. We put them under pressure really high up the pitch and I felt that we would have killed them hadn't they gotten that goal. That knocked the wind out of us temporarily, but we came back with great purpose and directness in the second half, which finally gave result.

Maybe so, but in lots of games this season it hasn't been the case, we've waited to go behind to start playing.

[zuricity]

Forget the rags.

They are nothing like us. I do agree that we need to start with a high tempo and that's exactly what we did last season.

The rags have been getting out wide and swinging it in as far back as I can remember.

true and they rely on deflections, flicking the ball up on the defenders hands for penalties.

they don't create that many opportunities

[Bridge'srightfoot]

What annoys me most is that when we step it up a gear, play with a greater tempo and move the ball around quicker with purpose we look ustoppable. So I don't get why we don't start game like that, get a couple of early goals rather than having to sweat it out at the end. It makes no sense. Why wait till we're a goal down before we step it up? The last two games are perfect examples of this. How many goals have the rags got in the last 3 seasons from just getting the ball quickly out wide to Valencia, crossing it in and someone getting on the end of it.

Forget the rags.

They are nothing like us. I do agree that we need to start with a high tempo and that's exactly what we did last season.

The rags have been getting out wide and swinging it in as far back as I can remember.

We need more width though to get the best of Dzeko. His best game for us was Spurs away, his first three goals came from crosses into the box.