Dzeko

[zeljeznicar]

dzeko is dangerous forward in penalty area...and mancini tactic is not compatibility for dzeko when he starts game...when he starts from the bench - all tactics fall down - and full team go forward!

[Denis4583]

so agure, balloteli and tevez are all bench players they had a lot more starts then dzeko and didnt score

?????

[Cocacolajojo1]

I think we did yesterday. We put them under pressure really high up the pitch and I felt that we would have killed them hadn't they gotten that goal. That knocked the wind out of us temporarily, but we came back with great purpose and directness in the second half, which finally gave result.

That signature man... it brings me back. Great tribute. Bra jobbat.

[Duckman]

I did some research on Džeko's current form and compared it to last season.

So far, in the league only, Dzeko scored 6 goals, played for 351 minute, scoring every 58,5 minutes.

in the first 11 games of last season, Dzeko scored 10 goals for 598 minutes spent on the pitch, scoring every 59,8 minutes.

So, the conclusion is that Dzeko is having a good start to the season, just like in the last one, slightly better/more clinical.

[Ted Hughes]

I can appreciate & agree that it would be a good idea to put crosses in when Dzeko plays (Bob has said this himself so he agrees too) but that is fine if we do it as part of our game or as plan B.

It is still upto Dzeko to play his part in whatever team or system Bob sees fit to put out, just as it will be with Micah if Bob plays 3 at the back.

As for his success as sub being because we are playing differently, not true imo. It's because he comes on full of energy & defenders are tired. When he starts, he is not as energetic & defenders are as sharp or sharper than him. That's the biggest difference.

We have to see how that will work out with Maicon too.

[PALUS]

this is the only truth if u have chance u want him to be in one , , hes not super sub, hes great finisher and how we do not play difrent when we losing and DZeko come in 20 min from end , we play totaly difrent then how we play from the start lazy araund and araund with ball no pace , but when we lose we push in fifht gear and u can see that clear , i agree with few of people here who notice that , it is true that we go like crazy in last 20 min if we lose , but Zabba for me is the fuckin hero of City , guy is crazy he was all araund the pitch , knight of City.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

this is the only truth if u have chance u want him to be in one , , hes not super sub, hes great finisher and how we do not play difrent when we losing and DZeko come in 20 min from end , we play totaly difrent then how we play from the start lazy araund and araund with ball no pace , but when we lose we push in fifht gear and u can see that clear , i agree with few of people here who notice that , it is true that we go like crazy in last 20 min if we lose , but Zabba for me is the fuckin hero of City , guy is crazy he was all araund the pitch , knight of City.

Fuck off please.

Your dzeko cock sucking has officially past the point of acceptable. If we win a trophy this season and dzeko is on the bench I don't want you posting and killing my buzz.

[london blue 2]

this is the only truth if u have chance u want him to be in one , , hes not super sub, hes great finisher and how we do not play difrent when we losing and DZeko come in 20 min from end , we play totaly difrent then how we play from the start lazy araund and araund with ball no pace , but when we lose we push in fifht gear and u can see that clear , i agree with few of people here who notice that , it is true that we go like crazy in last 20 min if we lose , but Zabba for me is the fuckin hero of City , guy is crazy he was all araund the pitch , knight of City.

Fuck off please.

Your dzeko cock sucking has officially past the point of acceptable. If we win a trophy this season and dzeko is on the bench I don't want you posting and killing my buzz.

I take it you're not falling for the little Zabaleta angle disguise that was applied to that post?

[Alioune DVToure]

I take it you're not falling for the little Zabaleta angle disguise that was applied to that post?

It was roughly 94% Dzeko and 6% Zabaleta.

[Cocacolajojo1]

this is the only truth if u have chance u want him to be in one , , hes not super sub, hes great finisher and how we do not play difrent when we losing and DZeko come in 20 min from end , we play totaly difrent then how we play from the start lazy araund and araund with ball no pace , but when we lose we push in fifht gear and u can see that clear , i agree with few of people here who notice that , it is true that we go like crazy in last 20 min if we lose , but Zabba for me is the fuckin hero of City , guy is crazy he was all araund the pitch , knight of City.

Fuck off please.

Your dzeko cock sucking has officially past the point of acceptable. If we win a trophy this season and dzeko is on the bench I don't want you posting and killing my buzz.

That there is a logical contradiction. We can't win the league without Dzeko. Thus, he can't destroy your buzz if we don't win the league. Without Dzeko there's no buzz.

Back on topic: I like him and I hope he stays for the remainder of the season, if not longer. Just like Aguero he always seems to score when it's most important, after having fucked up the previous one billion chances. Also, he looks like a twelve year old in the face. It's freaky. Our squad is looking better and better for each season and we need his freakiness to stay in touch with our ugly roots.

[Im_Spartacus]

I can appreciate & agree that it would be a good idea to put crosses in when Dzeko plays (Bob has said this himself so he agrees too) but that is fine if we do it as part of our game or as plan B.

It is still upto Dzeko to play his part in whatever team or system Bob sees fit to put out, just as it will be with Micah if Bob plays 3 at the back.

As for his success as sub being because we are playing differently, not true imo. It's because he comes on full of energy & defenders are tired. When he starts, he is not as energetic & defenders are as sharp or sharper than him. That's the biggest difference.

We have to see how that will work out with Maicon too.

Not sure I agree with you there Ted, I think fitting in with a style of play is an oversimplification.

You wouldnt ask or expect Messi to challenge for crosses into the box, so, Barcelona dont play that way, they play to his strengths. When Tevez or Aguero start with Dzeko, we play to their strengths, with the ball on the deck, backs to goal, fast fluid movement and running with the ball. That is completely alien to Dzeko's natural ability which is to attack a ball played into the danger area (either on the ground or the air, and from whatsoever angle).

You have to remember that we have some of the very best in the world "at their game" in our squad. So why buy one of the very best goal scorers in european football over the last few years, and flog a dead horse trying to make him play football? I agree he looks like he should be able to do better, but the reality is that you cant coach every player to become the complete centre forward, you have to accept their limitations. If he is one of the best goalscorers in the world, great, I will make sure I get the best providers lined up to supply him, would be my immediate thought - apparently not so Mancini from the start of the game (other than silva)

If you have a couple of deadly strikers, and deliver the ball into the box enough times, the resultant panic gives the likes of Aguero and Tevez, playing off Dzeko just as many chances as they would have had from the fannying about approach we have, but moreover, they actually get real chances, real shots on goal, not ones where they get the ball and have to fashion a half chance with 3 defenders in front of them.

Thats the reason why we are more dangerous when dzeko comes on, and it benefits the other forward players equally.

I simply dont buy the tiredness angle, its a basic fact of having an unpredictable attacking threat being harder to defend against than one which is utterly predictable, as we so often are under mancini.

[Slim]

Could be tiredness in that Aguero is a rabbit and Tevez pulls centrehalves all over the pitch, or part that, and they have to adjust their game to deal with something different, something they haven't seen all game and losing a bit of sharpness makes it a lot harder to adjust to.

However, he appears to be winning games, scoring goals and having a great run of things at the moment and if it's working, let's not fuck with it.

[Im_Spartacus]

Could be tiredness in that Aguero is a rabbit and Tevez pulls centrehalves all over the pitch, or part that, and they have to adjust their game to deal with something different, something they haven't seen all game and losing a bit of sharpness makes it a lot harder to adjust to.

However, he appears to be winning games, scoring goals and having a great run of things at the moment and if it's working, let's not fuck with it.

I'd rather do without the heart attacks of being 1.0 down before we invoke plan B though

[PALUS]

this is the only truth if u have chance u want him to be in one , , hes not super sub, hes great finisher and how we do not play difrent when we losing and DZeko come in 20 min from end , we play totaly difrent then how we play from the start lazy araund and araund with ball no pace , but when we lose we push in fifht gear and u can see that clear , i agree with few of people here who notice that , it is true that we go like crazy in last 20 min if we lose , but Zabba for me is the fuckin hero of City , guy is crazy he was all araund the pitch , knight of City.

Fuck off please.

Your dzeko cock sucking has officially past the point of acceptable. If we win a trophy this season and dzeko is on the bench I don't want you posting and killing my buzz.

Listen u fuckin mentol there ten people who say the same thing us i and u saying to me to fuck off , o why is the reason ,hmmmm possibly because i m from Bosnia and love player from my country , well i must be insane , and i talk abaut Zabba on Zabba thread because guy impress me ,so u can ..... well i promise the guy i wont insult people any more but u know what i mean , abnormal bunch of haters ,u cant comment on player because u like him even if u have a point only on bunch of haters , but others can and why i m justify to u , thats morbid i dont care wath u think ,go out find somebody and kick hes ass or buy something like xanax or whathever u insane people should drink

[Alex Sapphire]

this is the only truth if u have chance u want him to be in one , , hes not super sub, hes great finisher and how we do not play difrent when we losing and DZeko come in 20 min from end , we play totaly difrent then how we play from the start lazy araund and araund with ball no pace , but when we lose we push in fifht gear and u can see that clear , i agree with few of people here who notice that , it is true that we go like crazy in last 20 min if we lose , but Zabba for me is the fuckin hero of City , guy is crazy he was all araund the pitch , knight of City.

Fuck off please.

Your dzeko cock sucking has officially past the point of acceptable. If we win a trophy this season and dzeko is on the bench I don't want you posting and killing my buzz.

Listen u fuckin mentol there ten people who say the same thing us i and u saying to me to fuck off , o why is the reason ,hmmmm possibly because i m from Bosnia and love player from my country , well i must be insane , and i talk abaut Zabba on Zabba thread because guy impress me ,so u can ..... well i promise the guy i wont insult people any more but u know what i mean , abnormal bunch of haters ,u cant comment on player because u like him even if u have a point only on bunch of haters , but others can and why i m justify to u , thats morbid i dont care wath u think ,go out find somebody and kick hes ass or buy something like xanax or whathever u insane people should drink

where can I get some of this xanax, please?

[PALUS]

this is the only truth if u have chance u want him to be in one , , hes not super sub, hes great finisher and how we do not play difrent when we losing and DZeko come in 20 min from end , we play totaly difrent then how we play from the start lazy araund and araund with ball no pace , but when we lose we push in fifht gear and u can see that clear , i agree with few of people here who notice that , it is true that we go like crazy in last 20 min if we lose , but Zabba for me is the fuckin hero of City , guy is crazy he was all araund the pitch , knight of City.

Fuck off please.

Your dzeko cock sucking has officially past the point of acceptable. If we win a trophy this season and dzeko is on the bench I don't want you posting and killing my buzz.

Listen u fuckin mentol there ten people who say the same thing us i and u saying to me to fuck off , o why is the reason ,hmmmm possibly because i m from Bosnia and love player from my country , well i must be insane , and i talk abaut Zabba on Zabba thread because guy impress me ,so u can ..... well i promise the guy i wont insult people any more but u know what i mean , abnormal bunch of haters ,u cant comment on player because u like him even if u have a point only on bunch of haters , but others can and why i m justify to u , thats morbid i dont care wath u think ,go out find somebody and kick hes ass or buy something like xanax or whathever u insane people should drink

where can I get some of this xanax, please?

lol ok that s funny ,

[tikatakamcfc]

I can appreciate & agree that it would be a good idea to put crosses in when Dzeko plays (Bob has said this himself so he agrees too) but that is fine if we do it as part of our game or as plan B.

It is still upto Dzeko to play his part in whatever team or system Bob sees fit to put out, just as it will be with Micah if Bob plays 3 at the back.

As for his success as sub being because we are playing differently, not true imo. It's because he comes on full of energy & defenders are tired. When he starts, he is not as energetic & defenders are as sharp or sharper than him. That's the biggest difference.

We have to see how that will work out with Maicon too.

I really thought that you know better. Because defenders are tired? Are you serious? What a joke...


BTW, you say "but that is fine if we do it as part of our game or as plan B."
When is the last time that plan A worked for us, actually?

[tikatakamcfc]

I can appreciate & agree that it would be a good idea to put crosses in when Dzeko plays (Bob has said this himself so he agrees too) but that is fine if we do it as part of our game or as plan B.

It is still upto Dzeko to play his part in whatever team or system Bob sees fit to put out, just as it will be with Micah if Bob plays 3 at the back.

As for his success as sub being because we are playing differently, not true imo. It's because he comes on full of energy & defenders are tired. When he starts, he is not as energetic & defenders are as sharp or sharper than him. That's the biggest difference.

We have to see how that will work out with Maicon too.

Not sure I agree with you there Ted, I think fitting in with a style of play is an oversimplification.

You wouldnt ask or expect Messi to challenge for crosses into the box, so, Barcelona dont play that way, they play to his strengths. When Tevez or Aguero start with Dzeko, we play to their strengths, with the ball on the deck, backs to goal, fast fluid movement and running with the ball. That is completely alien to Dzeko's natural ability which is to attack a ball played into the danger area (either on the ground or the air, and from whatsoever angle).

You have to remember that we have some of the very best in the world "at their game" in our squad. So why buy one of the very best goal scorers in european football over the last few years, and flog a dead horse trying to make him play football? I agree he looks like he should be able to do better, but the reality is that you cant coach every player to become the complete centre forward, you have to accept their limitations. If he is one of the best goalscorers in the world, great, I will make sure I get the best providers lined up to supply him, would be my immediate thought - apparently not so Mancini from the start of the game (other than silva)

If you have a couple of deadly strikers, and deliver the ball into the box enough times, the resultant panic gives the likes of Aguero and Tevez, playing off Dzeko just as many chances as they would have had from the fannying about approach we have, but moreover, they actually get real chances, real shots on goal, not ones where they get the ball and have to fashion a half chance with 3 defenders in front of them.

Thats the reason why we are more dangerous when dzeko comes on, and it benefits the other forward players equally.

I simply dont buy the tiredness angle, its a basic fact of having an unpredictable attacking threat being harder to defend against than one which is utterly predictable, as we so often are under mancini.

Exactly. Im relieved that I didnt have to write this down on my own, entire post.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Listen u fuckin mentol there ten people who say the same thing us i and u saying to me to fuck off , o why is the reason ,hmmmm possibly because i m from Bosnia and love player from my country , well i must be insane , and i talk abaut Zabba on Zabba thread because guy impress me ,so u can ..... well i promise the guy i wont insult people any more but u know what i mean , abnormal bunch of haters ,u cant comment on player because u like him even if u have a point only on bunch of haters , but others can and why i m justify to u , thats morbid i dont care wath u think ,go out find somebody and kick hes ass or buy something like xanax or whathever u insane people should drink

Listen carefully fucktard.

You can't comment on one player, slagging off the TEAM and manager after important games, if you're a city fan.

Oh yeah you're not you're a dzeko cock boy.

Fuck off and do what people have suggested go start dzekofans.net

[Original Dub]

Palus, I like you mate...

But if you fucked off away from the dzeko threads and leave the "haters" get on with it you would get a lot more respect.

On the subject of dzeko, he is the best plan b any premier league team could wish for.

We have tried him as plan a. Numerous times. And only once or twice has it worked out. For whatever reason.

The big difference is he does not tire out defenders like tevez and aguero does, so reversing the plans will not work.

It's not that difficult.