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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Dronny » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:43 pm

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Abu Dhabi wrote:Worth mentioning though, from the current top 5 of this away league, only Arsenal and City played 7 away games, as opposed to 6 away games played by the others. If rags and spuds win their next away game, we'll be 5th.

Also worth mentioning is that Chelsea and the Scum have played 2 more home games than us. In fact, all the top sides have played more home games than us barring the Arse who are equal!


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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Chinners » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:43 pm

Good stuff. Interesting about the fair play table, the away one is far more believable thou
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Vhero » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:45 pm

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Vhero wrote:Look at that! Joint second! Compared to last season eh? See with all the doom and gloom about that should cheer a few f**kers up hopefully!


We finished 17th last year with stats of won 2, drew 5, lost 12 = 11 points

So we nearly beat it already and we are 12 games in?? And people are complaining that we are not doing enough...
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Colin the King » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:29 pm

Thanks MRM, some much needed positivity with that table. And if we'd beaten Liverpool yesterday, which we came very close to doing, we'd be joint top. If this is a crisis, I can't wait to see us when we're half decent!
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:31 pm

Dronny wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Abu Dhabi wrote:Worth mentioning though, from the current top 5 of this away league, only Arsenal and City played 7 away games, as opposed to 6 away games played by the others. If rags and spuds win their next away game, we'll be 5th.

Also worth mentioning is that Chelsea and the Scum have played 2 more home games than us. In fact, all the top sides have played more home games than us barring the Arse who are equal!


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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:33 pm

What a great table.
I would be really happy if we stayed above them all year and that table stayed like that all season.
We are actually better than them away from home
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Bluez » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:00 pm

And thsi is before we have really clicked as a team. We are This close (holds his finger and thumb really close together) to getting that extra rub of teh green to start turing the draws into wins.

Saying that we will probably get beat by Hull now and I will look a right prick.
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Nick » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:16 pm

Original Dub wrote:Well, that really is interesting and I must say I'm a bit suprised.

Thanks for that WW, it makes for some factual, yet positive reading. Both of which were lacking seriously from the board yesterday.

If we hadn't been robbed at the swamp we'd be the only unbeaten side in all the top leagues in the world. It may not be as good as winning, but not getting beaten really does breed confidence a lot more that losing four and winning two.

Great foundation, we just need to make sure we continue to build and we'll be more than fine.



Also very surprised and delighted with that stat, I also agree that if we had (and should) have hung on vs. fulham and burnley at home there would be no negativity.

All this 'confidence' with not losing I dont really buy. After listening to Stevies post match inverview after liverpool he made it clear that if we couldnt win / go for the win then it was paramount to not lose. He also mentioned that when we went one down the shackles were free and we started to play. I think the team is very low on confidence IMO.
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby feedthegreek » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:26 pm

going off the subject why are everton playing hull away on wed ?
when hull have already played 13 games.
surely that should have been us instead.
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby ronk » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:46 am

Part of me looks at that table and has a pang of regret about how much better we've almost been.

A draw against the scum puts us clear 2nd. We've drawn matches we could and won and we seem to only score goals when we need them and then concede soft goals.

In some ways though, that's the most promising bit of all. We've gone from absolute garbage away to being very good, and threatening to be much better with relatively modest improvements. The experience of battling, getting important goals when we need them and holding out when we know we're coming under pressure is going to really stand to us. We're not the soft touches we once were.

And we can all see that it can get better, indeed it's likely that we will. Last year we demolished teams that got their tactics wrong against us, but then we got beaten when teams got it right. This year, we've had some frustrating draws and learnt lessons but we're also on the cusp of winning most of these games without going too far to throw them away.

For all that people say 3 draws equal 2 losses there's also the factor that teams can exploit the fact that you're taking risks to win and use that to win themselves. That solidity is something that we'll need as a platform to really start winning consistently.
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Esky » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:14 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
Abu Dhabi wrote:Worth mentioning though, from the current top 5 of this away league, only Arsenal and City played 7 away games, as opposed to 6 away games played by the others. If rags and spuds win their next away game, we'll be 5th.

Also worth mentioning is that Chelsea and the Scum have played 2 more home games than us. In fact, all the top sides have played more home games than us barring the Arse who are equal!


Was coming here to post as much. Admittedly it skews the away table but the fact is that we've played five at COMS (3-2-0) and seven away (2-4-1).

We're still sixth though, whichever way you slice it. Nothing other than a win should be acceptable against Hull in any circumstance (and especially so if we want to be in striking distance of the top four).
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Slim » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:44 am

Original Dub wrote:Oh this thread gets better and better.

So what happened to us being the next "Butchers of Blackburn", eh?

Its amazing that the sensationalist and speculative threads seem to riddle the board and gather lots of replies, but the ones that deal only in facts get ignored by quite a few?
Class.


Facts like we we have a game in hand and while used as "assumptive points" we can't include the fact we have played a game less in this convenient discliplinary table, or the fact that somehow we have played one more away game than the filth and the yids and should they get those "assumptive points" that we assume we'll get that they would leapfrog us.

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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Abu Dhabi » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:23 am

Just as a reminder, this is last season's away league table..


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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Alex Sapphire » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:01 am

Slim wrote:we can't include the fact we have played a game less in this convenient discliplinary table,


we're averaging 1.25 "points" per game. So our game in hand would see us plummet to 2nd. Do you not accept at all the fact that this indicates we are not a team of kickers?

Slim wrote:or the fact that somehow we have played one more away game than the filth and the [strike]yids[/strike] Spuds


which means we've had tougher fixtures, so our league position isn't falsely high. Our next home game (to even things out) is Hull. Their "away games in hand" are Arse at Scouse, Chelski at Arse, and Scouse at Scouse 2. Scum get Pompey. And actually after these games have been played we'll still have a game in hand. Fact.

Slim wrote:Facts, the new nickname for subjective happyclapper propaganda.


I thought we were the licker brigade. Altogether now...

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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:04 am

That table is great but there is a bit of a however

http://www.premierleague.com/page/FormGuide

That suggests that Hull are in better form than us and the fair play table which I would think is the relevance of the number of red and yellow cards we have has us in 7th place which is going downwards.
But as has been said as long as we win our home games and draw the away ones there can be little to complain about.
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Hazy » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:25 am

Rag_hater wrote:That table is great but there is a bit of a however

http://www.premierleague.com/page/FormGuide

That suggests that Hull are in better form than us and the fair play table which I would think is the relevance of the number of red and yellow cards we have has us in 7th place which is going downwards.
But as has been said as long as we win our home games and draw the away ones there can be little to complain about.


Or thats nice RH, Just a quick recap, 6th game in hand mate Qtr Final of Carling life could be worse, we also have Players coming back making the squad huge in talent, For the 1st time in yrs City have a squad of players given time and support to challenge, a little bit of luck which we have never had and who knows. Next thing turning Coms into home venue full of noise.
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby simon12 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:39 am

Can somebody turn that table upsidedown so I can justify having a bth with an electric fire.

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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:42 am

Hazy wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:That table is great but there is a bit of a however

http://www.premierleague.com/page/FormGuide

That suggests that Hull are in better form than us and the fair play table which I would think is the relevance of the number of red and yellow cards we have has us in 7th place which is going downwards.
But as has been said as long as we win our home games and draw the away ones there can be little to complain about.


Or thats nice RH, Just a quick recap, 6th game in hand mate Qtr Final of Carling life could be worse, we also have Players coming back making the squad huge in talent, For the 1st time in yrs City have a squad of players given time and support to challenge, a little bit of luck which we have never had and who knows. Next thing turning Coms into home venue full of noise.


I'm not complaining,I haven't anywhere about the draws we have been having.Doesn't seem so bad to me.Its just the game we have coming up against Hull that everbody is assuming to be a home banker does not look so easy to me.They have Bullard begining to come into some form as the whole team seems to be, and we are having a bit of a dip(maybe).I'm thinking it might be another draw.
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby Hazy » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:25 am

Rag_hater wrote:
Hazy wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:That table is great but there is a bit of a however

http://www.premierleague.com/page/FormGuide

That suggests that Hull are in better form than us and the fair play table which I would think is the relevance of the number of red and yellow cards we have has us in 7th place which is going downwards.
But as has been said as long as we win our home games and draw the away ones there can be little to complain about.


Or thats nice RH, Just a quick recap, 6th game in hand mate Qtr Final of Carling life could be worse, we also have Players coming back making the squad huge in talent, For the 1st time in yrs City have a squad of players given time and support to challenge, a little bit of luck which we have never had and who knows. Next thing turning Coms into home venue full of noise.


I'm not complaining,I haven't anywhere about the draws we have been having.Doesn't seem so bad to me.Its just the game we have coming up against Hull that everbody is assuming to be a home banker does not look so easy to me.They have Bullard begining to come into some form as the whole team seems to be, and we are having a bit of a dip(maybe).I'm thinking it might be another draw.


I know u r not, but as you have a good knowledge of the game, madcap at times you must see, City, with support for the project will be a monster the rags and the rest will be concerned about, as opposed to the self destruct button we always seem to press and is our normal. If Hughes fails so be it, lets just see is all any manager needs, give the man time he might just be onto something slowly but onto it.
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Re: The Away League Table

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:34 am

Slim wrote:Facts like we we have a game in hand and while used as "assumptive points" we can't include the fact we have played a game less in this convenient discliplinary table, or the fact that somehow we have played one more away game than the filth and the yids and should they get those "assumptive points" that we assume we'll get that they would leapfrog us.

Facts, the new nickname for subjective happyclapper propaganda.


No my friend. The only fact I was stating in my opening post was that as a fan who goes to virtually every away game I'm delighted that we can now compete with the opposition. There is a new found confidence with the away support this season, something I have not witnessed before.

The fans are confident even when we go a goal down, even at places like Anfield and Old Trafford. We are disappointed with drawing away from home now and that is a fantastic mentality to have. I'm sure the confidence and backing from the fans is transfering to the team and vica-versa.

It's a great time to be following the team up and down the country making the long trips all worthwhile. It's was a thread made to highlight this fact. :-)
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