Pep or Mou?

[Fidel Castro]

Klopp has been where Bobby is now failure in Europe, 2yrs on the bounce. As a senior Dortmund guy said to us, the players wanted Klopp to stay, fans split, look now he is teflon and Bayern fear BVB for them lucky to still have him.

Mancini had a better squad though. And he was in Europe with Inter too. He left and suddenly they won the fucker! Mancini will NEVER perform in Europe, simple as.

[Chinners]

If we did switch then I'd want neither of them for different reasons to be honest. Decentish article on the pair thou ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20616855

[Hazy2]

Klopp has been where Bobby is now failure in Europe, 2yrs on the bounce. As a senior Dortmund guy said to us, the players wanted Klopp to stay, fans split, look now he is teflon and Bayern fear BVB for them lucky to still have him.

Mancini had a better squad though. And he was in Europe with Inter too. He left and suddenly they won the fucker! Mancini will NEVER perform in Europe, simple as.

Maybe that is right, He won the League months ago, I am shocked by City fans at times, if winning it means so little and Europe so much, we must all do a head shake on Sunday, The biggest club in the world NOT, have been in every year and won it what 3 times, we are virgins at this lark and Dortmund might IMHO be a club for us to look at and say OK done it the right way showed some faith fair enough, I cannot even think of a short list of better options, Pep TOP CHOICE and Klopp fans would be asking WHO, We are unbeaten in 2.5 yrs at home unbeaten in the League this season. Mancini has things to learn clearly he might just get it right Klopp, has and he was a dead man walking according to them. For me win the league again give him this season have a review.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Guardiola or Mourhino ??...for me it's neither.

I want Bob to stay but, if he ever wanted to leave (on his own account rather than being sacked), I'd want Frank Rijkaard.

In the far longer term, I wonder if Uwe Rosler will ever be back at City in this capacity ??

[zuricity]

Neither for me. Pep doesn't have enough experience and maureen is a tosser of the highest degree. Aunty Mo will be gone in the summer leaving Madrid to find a n other.

Pep should try his luck at somewhere like Swansea first before he takes on a big project like City

Long may Roberto reign .

The Chumps league is losing interest year by year now because of the way it's being manipulated for the G14 group all the time,

We played 6 games against three current champs and they were great games to watch even if we didn't get the results we wanted ...

Sunday we take on the mighty cluj from Stretford and then all will be right in the world again. if the season was to end next sunday, we'd still win it on goal difference :-)

[Swales4ever]

Sunday we take on [highlight]the mighty cluj from Stretford[/highlight] and then all will be right in the world again. if the season was to end next sunday, we'd still win it on goal difference :-)

Precious!
as usual.

[carl_feedthegoat]

LULZ @ these idiot topics about us cherry picking manager. What gives people the idea Mourinho would even want to join us? Or that Pep Guardiola, who doesn't speak word of English and has never managed anywhere but Barcelona, would be any sort of success or in fact would like to join us?

You talk some fucking shit you do.

Guardiola speaks english and Im sure he would bring in a defensive coach that spoke english as well...unlike some cunts.
As for Mourinho , of course he would join us you complete fuckign spastic.

[Hazy2]

LULZ @ these idiot topics about us cherry picking manager. What gives people the idea Mourinho would even want to join us? Or that Pep Guardiola, who doesn't speak word of English and has never managed anywhere but Barcelona, would be any sort of success or in fact would like to join us?

You talk some fucking shit you do.

Guardiola speaks english and Im sure he would bring in a defensive coach that spoke english as well...unlike some cunts.
As for Mourinho , of course he would join us you complete fuckign spastic.

Just asked if I am ok as I laughed that loud, fuck me.

[Swales4ever]

LULZ @ these idiot topics about us cherry picking manager. What gives people the idea Mourinho would even want to join us? Or that Pep Guardiola, who doesn't speak word of English and has never managed anywhere but Barcelona, would be any sort of success or in fact would like to join us?

You talk some fucking shit you do.

Guardiola speaks english and Im sure he would bring in a defensive coach that spoke english as well...unlike some cunts.
As for Mourinho , of course he would join us you complete fuckign spastic.

Just asked if I am ok as I laughed that loud, fuck me.

Cant help but loving Our Own General, can we?
It took some times to a twat like me, but I finally realized!
priceless Leg End... ;)

[Hazy2]

LULZ @ these idiot topics about us cherry picking manager. What gives people the idea Mourinho would even want to join us? Or that Pep Guardiola, who doesn't speak word of English and has never managed anywhere but Barcelona, would be any sort of success or in fact would like to join us?

You talk some fucking shit you do.

Guardiola speaks english and Im sure he would bring in a defensive coach that spoke english as well...unlike some cunts.
As for Mourinho , of course he would join us you complete fuckign spastic.

Just asked if I am ok as I laughed that loud, fuck me.

Cant help but loving Our Own General, can we?
It took some times to a twat like me, but I finally realized!
priceless Leg End... ;)

Your not a twat more a twit mate. xx

[Moonchesteri]

Who ever plumps for Pep is taking a gamble. He had the best squad in modern history to manage. Admittedly, there would be some who would still fuck it up under that much pressure but he has no track record with any other club and no experience outside Spain. However, if he gets it right, the brand of football he plays would be an utter delight to see week in week out. It's a big if for me though. I suspect he is the perfect manager for Arsenal. A team with a recent tradition of good football and expectation have been lowered in the past few years.

Mourinho would win us the league and have us seriously challenging in the CL right out of the blocks. I would view him in the same way as I do Mario, I think he is entertaining but I wish he didnt represent out club. He comes with a circus and his way of winning leaves an unpleasant taste in the mouth. I also suspect even if he was with us, he would jump ship to United the minute the job came up. His friendship with Ferguson would mean there would be constant speculation about him leaving which even if it unfounded, would be unsettling for all involved.

Excellent post. Just how I feel about both of managers

[Moonchesteri]

i'd say pep. He'd at least change the style of play. jose is more interested in telling everyone how great he is and interviews.

still'd prefer both of mancini and his systems.

What's so different from Pep's Barca to the way City try to play football?

The Barcelona I saw last season for example played a tikitaka football like we do, just kept passing the ball faster. (I'd like to believe that's what Bobby is trying to do as well but we're just absolutely nowhere near it this season, but last season when we had our mojo we did it to an extent)
they also pressed the opposition higher up the field than we do

There were occasions last season in La Liga where they failed to break down defences an Pep had no plan B whatsoever. (Sound familiar?) More often than not Messi saved his bacon but not always. I tell you we too would be lot better in breaking down defences if we had that Messi as well!

[Moonchesteri]

LULZ @ these idiot topics about us cherry picking manager. What gives people the idea Mourinho would even want to join us? Or that Pep Guardiola, who doesn't speak word of English and has never managed anywhere but Barcelona, would be any sort of success or in fact would like to join us?

Don't know about others but I feel it's 100% hypothetical question anyway and that's how I treat the subject too

[JamieMCFC]

LULZ @ these idiot topics about us cherry picking manager. What gives people the idea Mourinho would even want to join us? Or that Pep Guardiola, who doesn't speak word of English and has never managed anywhere but Barcelona, would be any sort of success or in fact would like to join us?

Pep is currently living in New York so he might speak a little English. But it being New York you don't really need to know English to live there.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Just for the benefit of Niallquincuntin pants


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[ross.mcfc]

LULZ @ these idiot topics about us cherry picking manager. What gives people the idea Mourinho would even want to join us? Or that Pep Guardiola, who doesn't speak word of English and has never managed anywhere but Barcelona, would be any sort of success or in fact would like to join us?

I do not think anyone has called for his head, nor should they. However his dismal failures in Europe, him looking for pastures new last season and the merry go round that is about to happen in the summer it is not totally out of the question that we will have a new manager at the start of next season. I'd say that there is a high possibility Real, Chelsea and PSG will be looking for a manager in the summer. It would not totally surprise me if Arsenal and United are in the same boat. Ferguson certainly isnt going to announce his retirement in advance like he did a few years back.

I am pretty sure Guardiola speaks some English, I dont recall Bob reciting acts of Shakespear when he first came through the door. I am also pretty sure that in his year off he will be learning as he has stated he would like to manage in England one day. At least we would have a manager who could communicate with Tevez!

Three and a half years is along time in modern football these days. Not saying it is right, but it is true. I think it is fair game to speculate who might be our manager next season. If we lose on Sunday, this thread will be a 20 pager.

[Fergiesnose]

Not sure what you've been watching but high possession doesn't mean playing like barcelona. City off the ball hardly pressed any more than another top flight prem club, they were good at winning te ball back however.
This season the possession is worse and Sonia the pressing.

City don't have the speed or commitment to press the ball anyway. Barry isn't goin to press and when we do get the ball he slows everything down.

@moonchester

[Chinners]

'we' ???

[Original Dub]

'we' ???

Bit of a reacurring one this...

Bizzarre post too. Mustn't have watched our record breaking first ten games last season.

Odd.

[Ted Hughes]

Pep.

To me there is no doubt that Roberto will be sacked at the end of the season, wouldnt be surprised if it was earlier, if there epl form gets out of hand or they fall far behind in the title race. 2 straight years being out at the group stage in the champions league, not acceptable to all the money hes spent on transfers. its well known that Roberto's back heel is in europe and he wont win a champions league with any team, he is great in the league but in Europe he dosent have balls to succeed. With new Sporting Director Txiki Begiristrain, Pep Guardiola's old pal at Barcelona in the glory days. Pep created the Barcelona Academy, players like Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Valdes, Puyol, Pique, Pedro, Sergio Busquetts. If Mourinho is hired he will try to win a champions league just like everywhere he goes. This Man City team need a strong academy that will improve the future. The only way this squad will become successful is when there is chemistry within the squad, right now that is tremendously lacking. I think Pep will try to build a project that can be successful now and for down the road. Mourinho may win now but he may leave with a mess for the near future. I have an Italian background, when Mourinho left Inter after winning the champions league, the squad was a mess. He had players like Lucio, Cambiasso, Julio Cesar, Milito, Sneijder(injury prone) who were washed up. Last year they finished 7th in Serie A. They have gone through 4-6 managers since Mourinho's departure. Thats why Pep Guardiola is the right choice for this club if Mancini does get sacked. Even with Mancini this squad will win the EPL title this year. There is no squad that can compete depth wise with this team. That will be the difference near the end of the season.

Not sure about the 'Bob getting sacked' bit, but I am leaning towards the thinking that we may not win the CL so long as Bob is here, & I agree entirely with the comparisons between Mourinho & Pep.

I've always said that my No 1 concern is the academy. All I wanted from both Hughes & Mancini, is that they looked after the club well in the short term & progress the 1st team but don't do any serous damage, whilst others sort out the academy, & I think they have both done that at their own level; Hughes as a stepping stone & Bob has turned it into a top side & delivered trophies & a title on top. I would hapilly see Bob here for 20 years if i thought he'd win the Champions League too, & help establish a style of play for the club which the academy will build into our recruits, but since this season I now have some doubts in both those areas.

I think he's been absolutely awful in Europe right though, not just the Chumps League. And so far, I can't see any kind of plan behind Lombardo's appointment as EDS manager. It just seems more like a control thing from Mancini to help his own power base rather than any kind of football plan for the good of the young players coming through. This, & the inclusion of his spies (Scapuzzi plus Mancini Jr) at reserve level, give me serious worries as to how much he is genuinely interested in football at youth level. I can see he has no problem using young players at first team level, if he thinks they are good enough, but I'm not convinced he has any kind of plan, or interest, at their production or the younger levels. He just wants players for the 1st team, however they come.

Mourinho has no interest whatsoever, & whilst he has proven himself as a more capable man manager than Bob, & would no doubt give us at least as much, possibly more success in the short term, he would be even less inclined than Mancini to build for the future. And he is a twat.

Pep imo, would be a huge gamble short term & less likely than either Bob or Mourinho to deliver trophies ( but tbf, could be even better if his method worked). Bob & Jose are proven in the Prem in that respect though. Pep is not.

For 1st team stability & short term success, the only sensible move is to stick with Bob & let him go for the title this season & have another shot at the Chump next season. If we show improvement, carry on, if we are awful again; sack him immediately, perhaps even whilst we are still in it.

What I would do though, if I owned the club, would be to offer Pep vast millions to run the academy, & if he said yes, but he insisted in being first team manager as well, I would reluctantly sack Bob & give Pep a five year deal, which he would see out, even if we won fuck all. It would be an academy appointment, first and foremost.

I would put the academy 1st in my list of priorities, & the first team second (but obviously still invest & go for it). Imo, irrespective of FFP, Sheikh Mansour is not going to plow £200m per annum into overpaid primadonnas for the rest of his life. It will stop. If City are to be the best club around in ten years, the academy is where that success willmostly come from, not the cheque book.

I recon Khaldoon shares that view & always has but I don't think Pep would be given 5 years to sort things at 1st team level, so Bob stays imo.