Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

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Who could become our talisman?

Gareth Bale
12
16%
Luis Suarez
4
5%
Radamel Falcao
34
44%
Edinson Cavani
21
27%
Other
6
8%
 
Total votes : 77

Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:51 pm

Messi
Ronaldo
Suarez

I don't think anyone else would improve us that drastically (RVP style).
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby City64 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:30 pm

Falao.

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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:45 pm

City64 wrote:Falao.

Van Pussy is a cunt btw.


True, but besides the point. I'm not going to refrain from mentioning his name. My thread wouldn't make sense otherwise.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:52 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Who will create the chances for our RVP ?


I deliberately gave a list of players who create most of their chances for themselves, especially Bale and Suárez. We need a player who can come up with something special when we're running out of ideas, just as the 2010-2011 Carlos Tevez frequently did. If you look at RVP's avalanche of goals over the last 20 months or so, most of them were from half chances at best (especially at Arsenal).

Look at the goals that Bale and Suarez tend to score. Very few of them are tap-ins at the end of a sweeping move.


Falcao though is imo the absolute best header of a ball amongst all the big name strikers, & if we actually found someone who could deliver a ball, he would get on the end of it much better than Dzeko ever would. Dzeko is a bit of a ponce who needs a perfect pass to his head. Falaco throws himself in, times his jumps & has twice as much skill at heading.


Cavani is also exellent in that regard.



Both are better than Ed on the ground.

I don't think it's a good idea to rely on strikers to create their own chances personally; that should be a bonus imo.

Imo, we should have picked up Lllorente as a cheap plan B for this season. He would have fitted in with us much more than Balotelli & could have played alongside any of our strikers & would have created loads of opportunities for them.


Sorry Ted,

I'm still not convinced by Llorente as I don't really like his apparent/putative shortcomings and I think he's more suited to be a Stoke type player than a City one. Moreover, the possibility of "a cheap plan B" would suggest, to my own mind at least, a short-term mis-use of good money which might become progressively scarcer from now on.

Perhaps I'm still reminded of the words of Malcolm Allison, following his sacking after his second stint at City, when he ruefully reflected "I should have bought a dog in midfield but, you know me, I'd always want a dog that could win at Crufts".

My philosophy would be that if 'Plan A' wasn't functioning and succeeding, then you must work even harder to make Plan A come good in the future, so that you never ever need the diversion of a 'Plan B'. I also think this is the approach that Barcelona typify.


We aren't Barca & if Barca didn't have Messi, they would need a plan B.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:53 pm

I'm not so sure Suarez is the player we need. I know he's a fantastic player capable of scoring great goals. But to me we already have enough small, skillful guys. Tevez, Aguerro, Silva (Nasri if he ever finds form too).

We need something different. Which is why I like Bale. Totally different from anything we have and would give us another dimension.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:05 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I'm not so sure Suarez is the player we need. I know he's a fantastic player capable of scoring great goals. But to me we already have enough small, skillful guys. Tevez, Aguerro, Silva (Nasri if he ever finds form too).

We need something different. Which is why I like Bale. Totally different from anything we have and would give us another dimension.


I agree. Sometimes we just need to stretch the game with some blistering pace out wide to create a gap between RB/LB and CB.

Please start spelling Aguero properly for the sake of my sanity.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:08 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Falcao though is imo the absolute best header of a ball amongst all the big name strikers, & if we actually found someone who could deliver a ball, he would get on the end of it much better than Dzeko ever would. Dzeko is a bit of a ponce who needs a perfect pass to his head. Falaco throws himself in, times his jumps & has twice as much skill at heading.

Cavani is also exellent in that regard.

Both are better than Ed on the ground.

I don't think it's a good idea to rely on strikers to create their own chances personally; that should be a bonus imo.

Imo, we should have picked up Lllorente as a cheap plan B for this season. He would have fitted in with us much more than Balotelli & could have played alongside any of our strikers & would have created loads of opportunities for them.


It would obviously be foolish to rely on self-made chances to win games, but sometimes a moment of individual brilliance is what makes the difference in a tight game. Bale and Suarez are the best at it; Sergio, Yaya and Tevez are capable of it but haven't managed it very often this season.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby phips » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:29 pm

as much as i hate his diving and simulation, its gotta be Suarez. He has proven he can score i the premier league and can deal with the tough play and pull off moments of brilliance. neither Cavani or Falcao has proved that....yet.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby I Just Blue Myself » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:40 pm

Neymar.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:48 pm

I Just Blue Myself wrote:Neymar.


No more brazilians, ever
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:24 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
No more brazilians, ever


Agree. The only Brazilian I want to see in a City shirt is Natalie Pike.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:57 pm

There will be a change of strikers in summer. Guidetti may replace Mario but I'd expect Tevez to go and possible Dzeko. Aguero could even go, due to his personal circumstances, but that wouldn't be the club's choice.

I suspect next season we'll start with 3 main strikers and a younger one. Who will depend on who wants out and who can be sold. Any of Suarez, Falcao or Cavani should do the job

As others have said, creating good chances is more important that who can put them away. We need pace badly and some width. Obvious choice is Bale, but there will be others out there as well who bring the necessary pace, tricks, work effort and delivery.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby dazby » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:47 pm

Neymar.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:21 pm

dazby wrote:Neymar.


Nay man.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby sheblue » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:45 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
I Just Blue Myself wrote:Neymar.


No more brazilians, ever


Why not some of the best footballers in the world have been from brazil?
Having said that the current crop don't seem to be up to much. Neymar does look a bit of a wimp.
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:51 pm

sheblue wrote:
Why not some of the best footballers in the world have been from brazil?
Having said that the current crop don't seem to be up to much. Neymar does look a bit of a wimp.


And virtually every single one has been a flop in England

Thats why
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby sheblue » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:56 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
sheblue wrote:
Why not some of the best footballers in the world have been from brazil?
Having said that the current crop don't seem to be up to much. Neymar does look a bit of a wimp.


And virtually every single one has been a flop in England

Thats why


I am not so sure.
Are the two lads at chelski flops, what about the qpr keeper who kept us out?
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:07 am

sheblue wrote:
I am not so sure.
Are the two lads at chelski flops, what about the qpr keeper who kept us out?


Thats why I said virtually, innit.

Tell you what, for every good one you name, i'll give you 10 that havent worked out
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby dazby » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:24 am

Can you do that for every country though?
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Re: Who can be our RVP? (Poll added)

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:22 am

dazby wrote:Can you do that for every country though?


Nope, most Aussies who come to the top flight play to the ability that earned them their move here. Argies in particular seem very predisposed to coming here and doing well, as do the French.

The only other nation I can think of who fail in the uk on a regular basis are italians. But even then its not on the scale of the brazilian failure.
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