OPERACION PUERTO AND FOOTBALL?

[carolina-blue]

The question needs to be asked. A lot of our players recently have come back early from some pretty bad injuries.

Is Manchester City Football Club clean?

Dont give the Rag tops anymore Ammo Dazby lad , They will be Wanking enough over Reading Abstaining F-Kin Idiots

[bluej]

The question needs to be asked. A lot of our players recently have come back early from some pretty bad injuries.

Is Manchester City Football Club clean?

[dazby]

I have no doubt that the rags are doped up on the goofballs.

I just wouldn't throw stones on this issue.

[dazby]

haha, see what I did there?

It's early in the morning. I'm tired.

[Dameerto]

haha, see what I did there?

It's early in the morning. I'm tired.

You can get pills for that.

[Lev Bronstein]

Interesting contribution from Danny Mills in the Telegraph

Former Leeds and England defender Danny Mills says players would do 'almost anything' to get an edge
Danny Mills has revealed the extent of the culture of injections and pill-taking that he experienced during his career.

Speaking out: former England defender Danny Mills says players would do almost anything to keep playing Photo: AP

By Henry Winter, Football Correspondent
11:48PM GMT 08 Feb 2013
“When I was at Middlesbrough, I had painkilling injections for six months in a really bad toe before games and at half-time just to get through games. I’d wake up at midnight in agony, toe an absolute balloon, throbbing.
“I played when I shouldn’t have done. I had injections to numb the pain, Cortisone to get me fit for games. It was rife. Cortisone was good but only if injected into pockets of fluid. If injected direct into a tendon or muscle you had to have 10 days of doing nothing. That wasn’t understood in the early days. It was a quick fix. That muscle would start to break down because you were hiding the problem. It was abused.
“I had four cortisone injections. I took a lot of advice. I took an interest in what I was putting into my body. Lots of players didn’t question it. It wasn’t illegal but it was pushing your body to the limit and past it for the sake of the team. Lads would pop anti-inflammatories religiously. If you have a bad back or bad knee, it’s a fantastic drug but you’re just hiding the issue.
“Players would do anything to get an edge on team-mates or opponents. People said: ‘Creatine’s bad for you, people are dying’. Taken in wrong amounts yes. But it allows you to build lean muscle quicker. I took it.
“Night Nurse was banned for a while. Night Nurse is fantastic. If you’re struggling to get to sleep, Night Nurse knocks you out. I took it. That could possibly have cost me my career.
"There was a period when I had five doping tests in a row! It got to the point where I said: ‘If you do me again, I’m not turning up’.
“I’ve had PRP [platelet rich plasma] injections. If you have a muscle injury, you take out blood and spin it. It separates white and red cells and the plasma. The plasma has all the antibodies so that is injected into an injury and aids healing time by a third. It was undetectable.
"I was offered it in the States after having some physio there. A guy came up to me with his business card, saying: This is what we do, PRP injections’. It was illegal at the time.
“I started to think: ‘This could help me. What harm does it do? It’s not going to enhance my performance. All it will do is help aid my injury’. I was a bit concerned so I went through the official channels, got letters from the FA. But there are guys in Spain, Germany and America where you could book an appointment. Players went off and had it done.
“Why do players always go abroad for treatment? Is it because they trust that physio or because other treatments are available that doctors in this country won’t do? Players would go to Spain and Germany and get all sorts of different injections like calf serum, animal products.”
Mills knows that expediency rules in football. “Every player cheats at some point. Whether appealing for a throw-in that you knows isn’t yours. It’s your livelihood, you’re a natural-born winner and morals go out of the window.
"Michael Owen admitted he dived for the Argentina penalty [in 98]. If England win the next World Cup from someone taking a dive is that player not going to get knighted with all the others? Ronaldinho fouled me in the World Cup. I went down. The players came round me and said: ‘The ref’s getting a card out, stay down’. I stayed down. He got sent off.
“It’s happened hundreds of times to me the other way. Players exaggerated stuff and I got booked. Alan Shearer was fantastic at it. I’d give him a little nudge in the back, referee doesn’t see it but he had collapsible knees, down he goes, big strong lad, free-kick.”

[Dameerto]

“Why do players always go abroad for treatment? Is it because they trust that physio or because other treatments are available that doctors in this country won’t do? Players would go to Spain and Germany and get all sorts of different injections like calf serum, animal products.”

I've wondered about that myself.

[dazby]

Former Manchester City player. Brace yourselves.

[Cocacolajojo1]

I made this show (I think so, although this news is getting old they brought it up first after I emailed them) bring it up.

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It's a pretty big talk-show about football but it's not mainstream. In Sweden. Make what you will of that.

The conversation was pretty timid though. We can't point the finger towards Spanish football and we can't point the finger towards football. Basically because every sport has cases of doping, they didn't feel that the issue required too much concern in football specifically. God forbid that football might be something of a role-model.

[bigblue]

While Lance Armstrong is a 100% liar, here is a quote from a recent interview. Basically saying what everyone should already know:

Where do you stand on the Puerto case, in which the judge ordered the blood bags to be destroyed, nullifying the chances to identify Dr. Fuentes' other non-cyclist clients?

I'm sure some big soccer clubs had some influence during the Puerto trial. In any case, it's yet again cycling that has taken the brunt of the blame.

http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-soci ... /c3s12567/

[s1ty m]

Stateside we have several baseball players and NFL football players banned for 1/4 of a season for first offense, 1/2 or more for a second, a lot of them for things similar to Kolo...and in the case of NFL player Stanley Wilson (a running back for Cincinncati) he was banned for life after his 3rd offense for cocaine possession (the same would happen today for steroids).

It is very topical here, PEDs have really tarnished the reputation of some of the games greatests players of the 1990s. Arguably the greatest baseball player ever not named Babe Ruth will never get into the Hall of Fame because of the accusations of using PEDs, and he was never caught doing them and suspended. Baseball's labor agreement allows for random testing a couple times a year for all players and even more for those who have been caught.

The NBA has banned 4 players for life, but again for non-PEDs, but cocaine and the like.

Ironically, the National Hockey League has had only one or two suspensions ever for steroids.

Human growth hormones (HGH) have been an issue too in Baseball, I think.

[Twobob]

The blatant corruption in the Spanish judicial system tells so much in its self, but the lack of other countries and the EU jumping up in disgust screams out even louder - i seriously doubt that its only the Spanish and Italians with top clubs/sportsmen involved, the fact that it is so blatant would seem to show that it's been rife through all Europe.

[Mase]

I've just finished a course of 30mg of Dianabol a day and 400mg of testosterone a week. Probably the same thing Caicedo took that summer he came back as a beast! I think stuff like that goes on but just goes under the radar.

Creatine is shite. If there was an advert for not taking creatine it's probably one look at Danny Mills' body.

[Twobob]

I've just finished a course of 30mg of Dianabol a day and 400mg of testosterone a week. Probably the same thing Caicedo took that summer he came back as a beast! I think stuff like that goes on but just goes under the radar.

Creatine is shite. If there was an advert for not taking creatine it's probably one look at Danny Mills' body.

Agree, worse still is the management of giving this to athletes and almost monitoring their performance increases while they take it, increasing the doses or using other techniques to tune them even further - almost like trying fuel/tire/oil combo's when race tuning a car. It becomes a contest of who had the best doctors not who's the best athlete.

[DoomMerchant]

I've just finished a course of 30mg of Dianabol a day and 400mg of testosterone a week. Probably the same thing Caicedo took that summer he came back as a beast! I think stuff like that goes on but just goes under the radar.

Creatine is shite. If there was an advert for not taking creatine it's probably one look at Danny Mills' body.

Why u on duh roids bra?

Cheers

[ross.mcfc]

I've just finished a course of 30mg of Dianabol a day and 400mg of testosterone a week. Probably the same thing Caicedo took that summer he came back as a beast! I think stuff like that goes on but just goes under the radar.

He was most certainly roided out of his nut. There is a current member of our squad that I would also suspect is or has been a regular riod user.

If years of watching pro wrestling have taught me anything it's that if they look like they are on drugs. They are.

I am certain drug abuse is widespread in football. The amount of time it takes to recover from a injury these days is very suspicious. Look at Messi, bumped full of drugs when he was a kid (legal ones) to make him grow just that little bit more. Plays 60 games a season and gets the shit kicked out of him every game and very very rarely ever gets injured.

Wenger talked very openly about this at a press conference earlier this year but it barely got any coverage. He mentioned that alot of players he signed failed Arsenal drugs tests when they signed. He believed that clubs in France were doping their players without actually informing the players. Think of how many players come to France from Africa for pennies, have one/two great season and are then shipped off to England for millions of pound of profit. Whislt the financial stakes are that high does it really surprise you that people are taking short cuts.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

I've just finished a course of 30mg of Dianabol a day and 400mg of testosterone a week. Probably the same thing Caicedo took that summer he came back as a beast! I think stuff like that goes on but just goes under the radar.

He was most certainly roided out of his nut. There is a current member of our squad that I would also suspect is or has been a regular riod user.

If years of watching pro wrestling have taught me anything it's that if they look like they are on drugs. They are.

I am certain drug abuse is widespread in football. The amount of time it takes to recover from a injury these days is very suspicious. Look at Messi, bumped full of drugs when he was a kid (legal ones) to make him grow just that little bit more. Plays 60 games a season and gets the shit kicked out of him every game and very very rarely ever gets injured.

Wenger talked very openly about this at a press conference earlier this year but it barely got any coverage. He mentioned that alot of players he signed failed Arsenal drugs tests when they signed. He believed that clubs in France were doping their players without actually informing the players. Think of how many players come to France from Africa for pennies, have one/two great season and are then shipped off to England for millions of pound of profit. Whislt the financial stakes are that high does it really surprise you that people are taking short cuts.

Tony Cascarino said it was rife when he was playing in France in the '90s.

[Mase]

He was most certainly roided out of his nut. There is a current member of our squad that I would also suspect is or has been a regular riod user.
.

I used to think Richards was but I'm not sure now. He might just be naturally beast like.

Someone like Nasri could do with a good cycle. Little bellend!

[Mase]

Why u on duh roids bra?

Cheers

Just want to be massive as faark brah!

[Rag_hater]

I think Mase has the right attitude towards roids.
I think if somebody is prepared to subject their body to all the side effects those drugs may have then I think their victories should not be discounted.
Ben Johnsons record should have stood IMO.