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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby zuricity » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:35 pm

sheblue wrote:
Hardly fantastic journalism. Hart wouldn't have played, Barry is knackered he needs a day off, nasri is shit and dzeko is a donkey, so it's easy to see how all of those will not play. A four year old could have written that.


perhaps a four year old did ! such is the quality of that Rag...

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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby feedthegreek » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:41 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
zuricity wrote:
feedthegreek wrote:article below.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... xe-1307140


and you trust anything written in that Rag ?


It's basically a load of quotes by Mancini, so I think it's safe enough to trust his part of it.

like ted said, the mancini quotes yes.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Lev Bronstein » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:44 pm

[quote="City64"

An official explanation would go a long way to why a performance like that happened and also what has actually happened off the pitch before and after the game.

The silence is deafening ![/quote]

Are you suggesting some sort of conspiracy? Do you know something the rest of us don't? Are you suggesting that some players were crap on purpose? What sort of explanation do you want?

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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:45 pm

What went on before was they didn't perpare well enough which led to a disjointed and lethargic game. Afterwards, apparently, the players were left in the changing rooms to have a think about their performance until Mancini went in for a chat.

Whether people like Mancini's ways or not, he came out and explained how he saw the game. It was probably exactly the way we all seen it.

But tell me, what are you expecting the club to come out with? It sounds very 'James Cooper'ish' or even Rag Top tickle-tackle to get a story. Ask yourself this, when have you seen/heard any club come out and tell you why they didn't play well, apart from the managers statement?
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby City64 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:04 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:What went on before was they didn't perpare well enough which led to a disjointed and lethargic game. Afterwards, apparently, the players were left in the changing rooms to have a think about their performance until Mancini went in for a chat.

Whether people like Mancini's ways or not, he came out and explained how he saw the game. It was probably exactly the way we all seen it.

But tell me, what are you expecting the club to come out with? It sounds very 'James Cooper'ish' or even Rag Top tickle-tackle to get a story. Ask yourself this, when have you seen/heard any club come out and tell you why they didn't play well, apart from the managers statement?



James Cooperish ?

WTF ? Tell you what , lets all bury our heads in the sand and pretend the Southampton match never happened ......

afterall we were shite for years and years wernt we . Give Mancini some credit though , at least he has thrown a few quotes here and there ...... awesome !
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:30 pm

City64 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:What went on before was they didn't perpare well enough which led to a disjointed and lethargic game. Afterwards, apparently, the players were left in the changing rooms to have a think about their performance until Mancini went in for a chat.

Whether people like Mancini's ways or not, he came out and explained how he saw the game. It was probably exactly the way we all seen it.

But tell me, what are you expecting the club to come out with? It sounds very 'James Cooper'ish' or even Rag Top tickle-tackle to get a story. Ask yourself this, when have you seen/heard any club come out and tell you why they didn't play well, apart from the managers statement?



James Cooperish ?

WTF ? Tell you what , lets all bury our heads in the sand and pretend the Southampton match never happened ......

afterall we were shite for years and years wernt we . Give Mancini some credit though , at least he has thrown a few quotes here and there ...... awesome !

You are making a lot of assumptions their mate, don't take them as fact. Just tell me though, nothing more, what are you expecting the club to do?

It actually sounds like you cannot wait for a message from the owners/board stating Mancini has been sacked. In reality, there would never be a statement with regard to a single loss, regardless of the way we played. There couldn't be one about Tevez as it's a personal issue so the only thing I can guess you are saying is that you are anxious for a sacking?
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby london blue 2 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:33 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:What went on before was they didn't perpare well enough which led to a disjointed and lethargic game.

This seems to be a reoccurring theme the season.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby City64 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:58 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
City64 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:What went on before was they didn't perpare well enough which led to a disjointed and lethargic game. Afterwards, apparently, the players were left in the changing rooms to have a think about their performance until Mancini went in for a chat.

Whether people like Mancini's ways or not, he came out and explained how he saw the game. It was probably exactly the way we all seen it.

But tell me, what are you expecting the club to come out with? It sounds very 'James Cooper'ish' or even Rag Top tickle-tackle to get a story. Ask yourself this, when have you seen/heard any club come out and tell you why they didn't play well, apart from the managers statement?



James Cooperish ?

WTF ? Tell you what , lets all bury our heads in the sand and pretend the Southampton match never happened ......

afterall we were shite for years and years wernt we . Give Mancini some credit though , at least he has thrown a few quotes here and there ...... awesome !

You are making a lot of assumptions their mate, don't take them as fact. Just tell me though, nothing more, what are you expecting the club to do?

It actually sounds like you cannot wait for a message from the owners/board stating Mancini has been sacked. In reality, there would never be a statement with regard to a single loss, regardless of the way we played. There couldn't be one about Tevez as it's a personal issue so the only thing I can guess you are saying is that you are anxious for a sacking?



Beefy , the last thing i want is Mancini sacked mate. As has been said by many on here is the fact that what went on (or didnt) at souhampton needs questions answered. A team challenging for the title should never ever put in a performance like that . Something isnt right and something hasnt been right all season ..... we can all speculate but just a few answers from MCFC would go a long way. Lastly since this Tixi bloke has appeared things have got steadily worse imho , again answers would go along way to actually know what his objective really is . We all had high hopes this season after enjoying the fantastic achievements of last season and the FA cup triumph the season before but this season ....... well , nuff said . Nite !
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:56 am

feedthegreek wrote:article below.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... xe-1307140


He has won me over somewhat with that......will be interesting to see his reaction then, and that of the squad.

Problem is that we have a surplus of defenders now, and nobody extra in the midfield and up front to allow him to make substantial changes
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Dameerto » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:39 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
feedthegreek wrote:article below.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... xe-1307140


He has won me over somewhat with that......will be interesting to see his reaction then, and that of the squad.

Problem is that we have a surplus of defenders now, and nobody extra in the midfield and up front to allow him to make substantial changes


If he goes and plays Nasri over Milner after coming out with quotes like that I will be livid (again).
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Green & Blue » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:49 am

Dameerto wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
feedthegreek wrote:article below.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... xe-1307140


He has won me over somewhat with that......will be interesting to see his reaction then, and that of the squad.

Problem is that we have a surplus of defenders now, and nobody extra in the midfield and up front to allow him to make substantial changes


If he goes and plays Nasri over Milner after coming out with quotes like that I will be livid (again).


I would be very surprised if he starts again anytime soon.Nasri needs a good prolonged sit on the bench or a dropping from the match squad altogether.If anything it might stir up a bit of fight in the lad, at the moment he wouldn't be capable of punching his way out of a wet paper bag.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby john@staustell » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:55 am

Right after 2 days total football-free territory, reading books and watching crap on TV, I'm back.

Personally I thought there was something very odd when Kolo wasn't selected. Surely that was nailed on? Bizarre.

Agree with everyone else about leaving Jimmy out. Bizarre.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Cit.revenge » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:10 am

Well i was hoping that he will take a bit responsibility on him self ,and take the edge of the team so team can see that he would share blame . Instead he start naming names and blame all but him self, it can't be just the players , we all notice they all play worse ,almost all , and that we just that we did not buy right players . If he is as a manager can not inspire this team to defeat the Saints, then he should take some responsibility ,and i know a lot of managers who would do just that and then cracked on the team in private.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:58 am

Cit.revenge wrote:Well i was hoping that he will take a bit responsibility on him self ,and take the edge of the team so team can see that he would share blame . Instead he start naming names and blame all but him self, it can't be just the players , we all notice they all play worse ,almost all , and that we just that we did not buy right players . If he is as a manager can not inspire this team to defeat the Saints, then he should take some responsibility ,and i know a lot of managers who would do just that and then cracked on the team in private.


You missed this bit then?

"over the next few days I need to think about what I did, what mistakes I made in the game. After that I will take decisions.”
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:03 am

john@staustell wrote:Right after 2 days total football-free territory, reading books and watching crap on TV, I'm back.

Personally I thought there was something very odd when Kolo wasn't selected. Surely that was nailed on? Bizarre.

Agree with everyone else about leaving Jimmy out. Bizarre.


I thought his reasoning on Garcia was fairly sound. He did put in a motm display at CB against QPR.

I agree in regards Nasri/Milner
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Cit.revenge » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:26 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:Well i was hoping that he will take a bit responsibility on him self ,and take the edge of the team so team can see that he would share blame . Instead he start naming names and blame all but him self, it can't be just the players , we all notice they all play worse ,almost all , and that we just that we did not buy right players . If he is as a manager can not inspire this team to defeat the Saints, then he should take some responsibility ,and i know a lot of managers who would do just that and then cracked on the team in private.


You missed this bit then?

Over the next few days I need to think about what I did, what mistakes I made in the game. After that I will take decisions.”

He should say and only that , it would be better i think.
I think hes not very good motivator and that hes mistake is clear at list to me , why put Milner on bench for Nasri , why Garcia on CB when we had Kolo, why Yaya have in hes head that he don't need to track back and .why rush on Ballo like that, why Nasri is not on stands first time he was preformed like that or put Milner in first eleven on regular basis so giving him a sing he should fight for spot ,some players have guaranty place no matter how they play . There was some experimenting with defense at start of the season where we lost point in all these season we won a lot of games not like team , more like few individuals making good move or have good day.In all we do not play good and our game is clear , our tactic is one and our players are not motivated to be team , they more play like if i score i m staying in team and some subs for me is puzzle like why not Tevez before Saints game.I don't think hes bad manager or something, he has results i just honest opinion think we could have better one, and maybe it would be fresh for team, even Barcelona change Managers and Guardiola won all . I would sell Tevez, Nasri, Edin and i m thinking we must have better DM then what we have and if we cant sell some of this new ones accept Nastasic , he will be great defender in and hes already good.And then buy some players that depends on manager we would bring or is Bob staying , i would really love some quality wingers ,That is my honest opinion and course i could be wrong ,Bob show me few times that he can turn araund stuff.Im not against him i m not for him i just think what would be best for club.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby MilnersJaw » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:39 pm

Cit.revenge wrote:He should say and only that , it would be better i think.
I think hes not very good motivator and that hes mistake is clear at list to me , why put Milner on bench for Nasri , why Garcia on CB when we had Kolo, why Yaya have in hes head that he don't need to track back and .why rush on Ballo like that, why Nasri is not on stands first time he was preformed like that or put Milner in first eleven on regular basis so giving him a sing he should fight for spot ,some players have guaranty place no matter how they play . There was some experimenting with defense at start of the season where we lost point in all these season we won a lot of games not like team , more like few individuals making good move or have good day.In all we do not play good and our game is clear , our tactic is one and our players are not motivated to be team , they more play like if i score i m staying in team and some subs for me is puzzle like why not Tevez before Saints game.I don't think hes bad manager or something, he has results i just honest opinion think we could have better one, and maybe it would be fresh for team, even Barcelona change Managers and Guardiola won all . I would sell Tevez, Nasri, Edin and i m thinking we must have better DM then what we have and if we cant sell some of this new ones accept Nastasic , he will be great defender in and hes already good.And then buy some players that depends on manager we would bring or is Bob staying , i would really love some quality wingers ,That is my honest opinion and course i could be wrong ,Bob show me few times that he can turn araund stuff.Im not against him i m not for him i just think what would be best for club.


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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:47 pm

I honestly thought Yaya was the problem on Saturday.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Risby » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:08 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:I honestly thought Yaya was the problem on Saturday.


Yaya has been our problem in a lot of games. Great attacking threat when in the final third, but defensively, he is often (not always) too lackadaisical.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Swales4ever » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:28 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:I honestly thought Yaya was the problem on Saturday.

Let's be honest.
Mancini assessment of the game was poor to say the least.... Yaya was just arrived from a chill-to hot-to chill double jump and Barry was exhausted. I still cannot make me head on that: Bob can truly be as stubborn as a mule, when his key men are concerned, at times.

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