The Best Centre-Back Pairing

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Lescott, Nasty or A & N Other

Kompany and Lescott
34
30%
Kompany and Nastasic
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54%
Kolo and Lescott
0
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Kolo and Nastasic
1
1%
Garcia and Lescott
0
No votes
Garcia and Nastasic
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No votes
Nastasic and Lescott
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No votes
Kolarov and Kolarov
14
13%
A & N Other (Please state in thread)
3
3%
 
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:01 am

aaron bond wrote:Vinnie and Lescott.

Lescott's form was better than Kompany's last season, but for some reason he gets a raw deal from many.

Nastasic is good cover and is a useful squad player. I'd love him to become the world class player so many on here seem to think he'll become but he hasn't done anything to demonstrate that he could achieve that thus far. If you compare Richards and Nastasic at the same age, Richards was in a different league. Richards was having stand-out games for us back then, and Nastasic hasn't done that yet. Furthermore, people outside of City were regularly talking about Richards as his ability was noticed by a wide range of people. Very few outside of City (and the Balkans) will know anything about Nastasic because his performances have not been at a level good enough to warrant that sort of attention. I know he's only 19 and has time on his side, but a future 'world class' player would have shown some glimpses already.


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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:55 am

Beefymcfc wrote:Just so they've got their own thread ;-)


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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Dunnylad » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:57 am

The sad thing is that our best centre half pairing is Kompany and Lescott - I say sad as it isn't good enough, what those saw as the failings in Lescott last season (he's a better Dunne - both prone to real cock ups) have manifested themselves this season as Kompany has easily out performed him. Lescott needs to be replaced now whether that's with a better left footed centre half or an increasing trust in Nastistic I don't know
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Wooders » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:43 am

went for vinnie and lescott
just goes to show we need a new world class CB this summer - what about hummells? great passer of the ball, tackler and reader of the game perhaps a little on the slow side for the prem?
I personally think he would be a good foil for vinnie
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Duckman » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:46 am

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best serbian left wingback?


Sometimes, to indulge the obese masses of serbians who kinda follow football, the press around here goes crazy bashing Mancini for not playing Mr. Kola...Once, I read somewhere something like this: Mancini wont win anything until he plays Kola.

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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:57 am

aaron bond wrote:Vinnie and Lescott.

Lescott's form was better than Kompany's last season, but for some reason he gets a raw deal from many.

Nastasic is good cover and is a useful squad player. I'd love him to become the world class player so many on here seem to think he'll become but he hasn't done anything to demonstrate that he could achieve that thus far. If you compare Richards and Nastasic at the same age, Richards was in a different league. Richards was having stand-out games for us back then, and Nastasic hasn't done that yet. Furthermore, people outside of City were regularly talking about Richards as his ability was noticed by a wide range of people. Very few outside of City (and the Balkans) will know anything about Nastasic because his performances have not been at a level good enough to warrant that sort of attention. I know he's only 19 and has time on his side, but a future 'world class' player would have shown some glimpses already.


The reason Micah stood out so much was the sheer size of the lad when he first hit the scene, his athletic ability is/was immense, he is also English and as we all know we like to hype up English talent on a ridiculous scale. There were major flaws in his game from an early age, his positional sense was practically non-existent, thankfully his ability to recover position was good, he's also prone to rash challenges. These problems still exist in his game today but since Mancini arrived ( yep that's right he did improve him believe it or not ) these flaws have been improved on.

Nastasic is a quality young centre back, he has a subtlety to his game that reminds me of Carvalho. The fact that he's already nailed downs a starting berth in the Serbian national team at 19 is testament to that. Yes he still has flaws naturally, he is still learning the game after all.

I, with a heavy heart, went with Kompany/Nastasic pairing as they are more suited to the type of high defensive line we employ, a heavy heart because I admire Lescott not only as a footballer but he seems a really top bloke too.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby freshie » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:46 am

aaron bond wrote:Vinnie and Lescott.

Lescott's form was better than Kompany's last season, but for some reason he gets a raw deal from many.

Nastasic is good cover and is a useful squad player. I'd love him to become the world class player so many on here seem to think he'll become but he hasn't done anything to demonstrate that he could achieve that thus far. If you compare Richards and Nastasic at the same age, Richards was in a different league. Richards was having stand-out games for us back then, and Nastasic hasn't done that yet. Furthermore, people outside of City were regularly talking about Richards as his ability was noticed by a wide range of people. Very few outside of City (and the Balkans) will know anything about Nastasic because his performances have not been at a level good enough to warrant that sort of attention. I know he's only 19 and has time on his side, but a future 'world class' player would have shown some glimpses already.


Let's not forget that Micah made his debut in a team that was nowhere near the current one in terms of ability and success. It's all relative
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Original Dub » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:48 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
The reason Micah stood out so much was the sheer size of the lad when he first hit the scene, his athletic ability is/was immense, he is also English and as we all know we like to hype up English talent on a ridiculous scale. There were major flaws in his game from an early age, his positional sense was practically non-existent, thankfully his ability to recover position was good, he's also prone to rash challenges. These problems still exist in his game today but since Mancini arrived ( yep that's right he did improve him believe it or not ) these flaws have been improved on.

Nastasic is a quality young centre back, he has a subtlety to his game that reminds me of Carvalho. The fact that he's already nailed downs a starting berth in the Serbian national team at 19 is testament to that. Yes he still has flaws naturally, he is still learning the game after all.

I, with a heavy heart, went with Kompany/Nastasic pairing as they are more suited to the type of high defensive line we employ, a heavy heart because I admire Lescott not only as a footballer but he seems a really top bloke too.


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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:57 am

Original Dub wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
The reason Micah stood out so much was the sheer size of the lad when he first hit the scene, his athletic ability is/was immense, he is also English and as we all know we like to hype up English talent on a ridiculous scale. There were major flaws in his game from an early age, his positional sense was practically non-existent, thankfully his ability to recover position was good, he's also prone to rash challenges. These problems still exist in his game today but since Mancini arrived ( yep that's right he did improve him believe it or not ) these flaws have been improved on.

Nastasic is a quality young centre back, he has a subtlety to his game that reminds me of Carvalho. The fact that he's already nailed downs a starting berth in the Serbian national team at 19 is testament to that. Yes he still has flaws naturally, he is still learning the game after all.

I, with a heavy heart, went with Kompany/Nastasic pairing as they are more suited to the type of high defensive line we employ, a heavy heart because I admire Lescott not only as a footballer but he seems a really top bloke too.


Are you that upset?


It's just a figure of speech, in the same way I felt regret over De Jong leaving but accept it's probably for the best long term.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby aaron bond » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:01 am

freshie wrote:
aaron bond wrote:Vinnie and Lescott.

Lescott's form was better than Kompany's last season, but for some reason he gets a raw deal from many.

Nastasic is good cover and is a useful squad player. I'd love him to become the world class player so many on here seem to think he'll become but he hasn't done anything to demonstrate that he could achieve that thus far. If you compare Richards and Nastasic at the same age, Richards was in a different league. Richards was having stand-out games for us back then, and Nastasic hasn't done that yet. Furthermore, people outside of City were regularly talking about Richards as his ability was noticed by a wide range of people. Very few outside of City (and the Balkans) will know anything about Nastasic because his performances have not been at a level good enough to warrant that sort of attention. I know he's only 19 and has time on his side, but a future 'world class' player would have shown some glimpses already.


Let's not forget that Micah made his debut in a team that was nowhere near the current one in terms of ability and success. It's all relative


Micah made his debut in much poorer City side, surrounded by poor defenders and midfielders, meaning he would have had to do a lot more defending - and he coped very well for such a young player. Yes, he had his faults such as his positional play but he had some excellent attributes which meant he put in some fantastic performances.

Nastasic would have probably struggled in that City side. He would have been put under far more pressure and his poor aerial ability and weakness in one-on-one situations would have seen him suffer.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:24 am

aaron bond wrote:
freshie wrote:
aaron bond wrote:Vinnie and Lescott.

Lescott's form was better than Kompany's last season, but for some reason he gets a raw deal from many.

Nastasic is good cover and is a useful squad player. I'd love him to become the world class player so many on here seem to think he'll become but he hasn't done anything to demonstrate that he could achieve that thus far. If you compare Richards and Nastasic at the same age, Richards was in a different league. Richards was having stand-out games for us back then, and Nastasic hasn't done that yet. Furthermore, people outside of City were regularly talking about Richards as his ability was noticed by a wide range of people. Very few outside of City (and the Balkans) will know anything about Nastasic because his performances have not been at a level good enough to warrant that sort of attention. I know he's only 19 and has time on his side, but a future 'world class' player would have shown some glimpses already.


Let's not forget that Micah made his debut in a team that was nowhere near the current one in terms of ability and success. It's all relative


Micah made his debut in much poorer City side, surrounded by poor defenders and midfielders, meaning he would have had to do a lot more defending - and he coped very well for such a young player. Yes, he had his faults such as his positional play but he had some excellent attributes which meant he put in some fantastic performances.

Nastasic would have probably struggled in that City side. He would have been put under far more pressure and his poor aerial ability and weakness in one-on-one situations would have seen him suffer.


Nastasic would have struggled like fuck in that City side & his lack of strength, pace & aerial ability would have been severely exposed. I remember Micah v Henry & it basically was just him v Thierry Henry, over & over & over again, because we had no cover & no organisation. Micah kept winning, to loud cheers from the crowd. Then go back a few weeks to the one time Nastasic was left to cope with a 1v1 against Sturridge & he just knocked the ball in a straight line & ran past him as if he wasn't there.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Cit.revenge » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:41 am

Kompany- Nastasic have my vote because of future . For first season he did good , next one they will be great and i' m sure that he will be great in years to come , just think for a sec that we have Savic last year like our hope for years to come. Lescott is still better in air but slower on ground .But its great having them and Kolo have some good games this season .Dom't like idea Garcia at back at all.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Plain Speaking » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:38 pm

For me with our current squad it depends on the opposition.
Against say Stoke/West Ham, physical with aerial threat, VK and Lescott.
Against say Liverpool/Swansea, passing ball on ground, VK and Nastasic.
(Outside our current squad, ideally someone like Hummels to partner VK.)
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:30 pm

I think that we can safely say that most City Fans want a Kompany / Nasty Partnership with Ripley as back up for when Nasty gets injured of rested.

Quite sensible.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Blue Blood » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:04 pm

What do you want in a CB pairing; quality and consistency.

For that we only have one option.

Nasty/Komps.

Easy, easy, poll to answer.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:44 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:I think that we can safely say that most City Fans want a Kompany / Nasty Partnership with Ripley as back up for when Nasty gets injured of rested.

Quite sensible.


I have no problem with that so long as we keep a tight, solid back 4 who look happy & organised & win big games like we did last season. Imo we haven't done much of that so far this season.

I think he will sell Lescott & I'm not sure who he will replace him with.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:05 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:I think that we can safely say that most City Fans want a Kompany / Nasty Partnership with Ripley as back up for when Nasty gets injured of rested.

Quite sensible.


I have no problem with that so long as we keep a tight, solid back 4 who look happy & organised & win big games like we did last season. Imo we haven't done much of that so far this season.

I think he will sell Lescott & I'm not sure who he will replace him with.


He will sign another one this summer , if hes still here.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:11 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:I think that we can safely say that most City Fans want a Kompany / Nasty Partnership with Ripley as back up for when Nasty gets injured of rested.

Quite sensible.


I have no problem with that so long as we keep a tight, solid back 4 who look happy & organised & win big games like we did last season. Imo we haven't done much of that so far this season.

I think he will sell Lescott & I'm not sure who he will replace him with.


He will sign another one this summer , if hes still here.


That's fine as well, so long as it works.

But when you look back to how we played v the rags for example last season & in the cup semi, imo we had the best defence & the best cb pairing in the league. Now we look like teams can get at us, & they do.

I can't see any good reason for chucking away what we had. It all reminds me of Arsenal.
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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:18 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:I think that we can safely say that most City Fans want a Kompany / Nasty Partnership with Ripley as back up for when Nasty gets injured of rested.

Quite sensible.


I have no problem with that so long as we keep a tight, solid back 4 who look happy & organised & win big games like we did last season. Imo we haven't done much of that so far this season.

I think he will sell Lescott & I'm not sure who he will replace him with.


He will sign another one this summer , if hes still here.


That's fine as well, so long as it works.

But when you look back to how we played v the rags for example last season & in the cup semi, imo we had the best defence & the best cb pairing in the league. Now we look like teams can get at us, & they do.

I can't see any good reason for chucking away what we had. It all reminds me of Arsenal.



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Re: The Best Centre-Back Pairing

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:20 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:I think that we can safely say that most City Fans want a Kompany / Nasty Partnership with Ripley as back up for when Nasty gets injured of rested.

Quite sensible.


I have no problem with that so long as we keep a tight, solid back 4 who look happy & organised & win big games like we did last season. Imo we haven't done much of that so far this season.

I think he will sell Lescott & I'm not sure who he will replace him with.


He will sign another one this summer , if hes still here.


That's fine as well, so long as it works.

But when you look back to how we played v the rags for example last season & in the cup semi, imo we had the best defence & the best cb pairing in the league. Now we look like teams can get at us, & they do.

I can't see any good reason for chucking away what we had. It all reminds me of Arsenal.


We had that last year , this year that pairing was shite and was a shadow of last years partnership performance, teams already got at us and were fucking us for fun at the back , which is why Mancini put in Nasty.

Lescott will be sold as he will not want to be second choice.
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