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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Hazy2 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:18 am

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Memo to Ted: Take sun cream and tea bags. Drop Ramos, Busquetts, make sure Martinez is never selected.


What the fuck do you keep bringing up Spain for ?

Have I mentioned Spain at all ?

Ramos plays for Real Madrid, Busquets plays for Barca & Javi Martinez plays for Bayern fucking Munich.

Would I like to sign them for the Premier League ? No. What the fucking hell that has to do with the Spanish National team, I'm buggered if I know. If I was talking about International football, I would have Ramos, possibly Busquets but not Martinez in the England team. But I'm not. I don't want any of them for City & you can add Piquet to that list.

The Premier League has very little in common with international or Spanish football & no team in England keeps possession like Spain or Barca, so comparing like for like is impossible.

Yaya Toure is a fucking liability defensively in the Prem. For Barca, he was a rock in defensive midfield. Miles better than Martinez has ever been for any of the teams he's played for.

It is different.



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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:09 am

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Hazy2 wrote:No I am sure you no more than a world player of the yr The No fuck all Spanish two time Euro and tinpot world cup winning manager Del Bosque, WHAT AN IDIOT HE IS. Rafa is after the Job, Now your on the case I am sure you will piss it send in the CV Ted, adios amigo. Brazil here you come, don't forget your Nuts. No you are.I am not in the slightest surprised you do not see it.

Memo to Ted: Take sun cream and tea bags. Drop Ramos, Busquetts, make sure Martinez is never selected.


What the fuck do you keep bringing up Spain for ?

Have I mentioned Spain at all ?

Ramos plays for Real Madrid, Busquets plays for Barca & Javi Martinez plays for Bayern fucking Munich.

Would I like to sign them for the Premier League ? No. What the fucking hell that has to do with the Spanish National team, I'm buggered if I know. If I was talking about International football, I would have Ramos, possibly Busquets but not Martinez in the England team. But I'm not. I don't want any of them for City & you can add Piquet to that list.

The Premier League has very little in common with international or Spanish football & no team in England keeps possession like Spain or Barca, so comparing like for like is impossible.

Yaya Toure is a fucking liability defensively in the Prem. For Barca, he was a rock in defensive midfield. Miles better than Martinez has ever been for any of the teams he's played for.

It is different.



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My Brian Marwood ?
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby johnny crossan » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:14 am

Seriously though, great player as GazBaz is, was and will ever be - should he be tragically run over by a passing bus (going to the MLS for example)who do we get to fill his boots? It's a conundrum of major proportions - high quality central midfielders who can pass, tackle, head, surge, break, recover etc are what every top club would pay a fortune for - and I can't think of many except perhaps a pig leader from the black forest and a couple of Spanish internationals.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:27 am

johnny crossan wrote:Seriously though, great player as GazBaz is, was and will ever be - should he be tragically run over by a passing bus (going to the MLS for example)who do we get to fill his boots? It's a conundrum of major proportions - high quality central midfielders who can pass, tackle, head, surge, break, recover etc are what every top club would pay a fortune for - and I can't think of many except perhaps a pig leader from the black forest and a couple of Spanish internationals.


I can't hink of any at all but it's about unearthing a couple or finding youngsters & teaching them imo. We should be looking to move away from players like Barry, DeJong, Garcia, Martinez & find people with athleticism.

I don't mind picking up a veteran plodder for the sake of experience, but I have always said that what we actually need is not Barry or DeJong or Yaya, it's two genuine alrounders. Imo, players like Barry, Yaya, Martinez, Didi Hamman, Alonso, etc need to play alongside two others in order to be as effective as one Roy K**ne or half a Colin Bell.

We need to move on from plodders (not sign younger ones for £30 mil).
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Alioune DVToure » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:45 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
I can't hink of any at all but it's about unearthing a couple or finding youngsters & teaching them imo. We should be looking to move away from players like Barry, DeJong, Garcia, Martinez & find people with athleticism.

I don't mind picking up a veteran plodder for the sake of experience, but I have always said that what we actually need is not Barry or DeJong or Yaya, it's two genuine alrounders. Imo, players like Barry, Yaya, Martinez, Didi Hamman, Alonso, etc need to play alongside two others in order to be as effective as one Roy K**ne or half a Colin Bell.

We need to move on from plodders (not sign younger ones for £30 mil).


I have faith in young Jack.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby I Just Blue Myself » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:53 am

I think Wilshere could turn out to be that player. He's too rash still & lacking some tactical discipline, but ticks all the other boxes.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:40 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
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I can't hink of any at all but it's about unearthing a couple or finding youngsters & teaching them imo. We should be looking to move away from players like Barry, DeJong, Garcia, Martinez & find people with athleticism.

I don't mind picking up a veteran plodder for the sake of experience, but I have always said that what we actually need is not Barry or DeJong or Yaya, it's two genuine alrounders. Imo, players like Barry, Yaya, Martinez, Didi Hamman, Alonso, etc need to play alongside two others in order to be as effective as one Roy K**ne or half a Colin Bell.

We need to move on from plodders (not sign younger ones for £30 mil).


I have faith in young Jack.


Tbh, joking aside, I think Rodwell (if he ever gets fit) is closer potentially to the kind of player we need for that job, than anything we have signed so far & most we have been linked with. He has pace, athleticism, can tackle, shoot occasionally, is potentially ok in possession once he calms down & can run with the ball at his feet, decent in the air & potentially able to move back into a 3 or perhaps even become a spare central defender in the future.

He will never be a deep, long passing playmaker like Alonso but as someone who can break down the oppo & give the ball to a Silva, play in a team pattern, & make late runs for midfield; he, or a world class version of him, is what we need in the future as opposed to various forms of slowcoaches imo. 2 decent athletes in there leaves 4 others & the fullbacks (and the 'ballplaying cb' cunt) with more freedom to play, knowing the cover is faster if it goes wrong.

He only turns 22 in March & has missed lots of football so far, thus can develop a lot. Martinez for example is 2 & half years older.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Alioune DVToure » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:52 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
I can't hink of any at all but it's about unearthing a couple or finding youngsters & teaching them imo. We should be looking to move away from players like Barry, DeJong, Garcia, Martinez & find people with athleticism.

I don't mind picking up a veteran plodder for the sake of experience, but I have always said that what we actually need is not Barry or DeJong or Yaya, it's two genuine alrounders. Imo, players like Barry, Yaya, Martinez, Didi Hamman, Alonso, etc need to play alongside two others in order to be as effective as one Roy K**ne or half a Colin Bell.

We need to move on from plodders (not sign younger ones for £30 mil).


I have faith in young Jack.


Tbh, joking aside, I think Rodwell (if he ever gets fit) is closer potentially to the kind of player we need for that job, than anything we have signed so far & most we have been linked with. He has pace, athleticism, can tackle, shoot occasionally, is potentially ok in possession once he calms down & can run with the ball at his feet, decent in the air & potentially able to move back into a 3 or perhaps even become a spare central defender in the future.

He will never be a deep, long passing playmaker like Alonso but as someone who can break down the oppo & give the ball to a Silva, play in a team pattern, & make late runs for midfield; he, or a world class version of him, is what we need in the future as opposed to various forms of slowcoaches imo. 2 decent athletes in there leaves 4 others & the fullbacks (and the 'ballplaying cb' cunt) with more freedom to play, knowing the cover is faster if it goes wrong.

He only turns 22 in March & has missed lots of football so far, thus can develop a lot. Martinez for example is 2 & half years older.


What's more, despite his injuries he's still got 90 PL appearances under his belt by the age of 21. Not many players of his age can say that. I've always liked him since he broke through and I was delighted when we signed him out of the blue.

He also had a very good game against Sweden about 18 months ago playing in a more advanced position and went close once or twice.

I couldn't understand at the time why people thought he was a poor signing and can't understand now why people aren't bothered about having him back. I've got a feeling he'll start more matches than not between now and the end of the season.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:02 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
I can't hink of any at all but it's about unearthing a couple or finding youngsters & teaching them imo. We should be looking to move away from players like Barry, DeJong, Garcia, Martinez & find people with athleticism.

I don't mind picking up a veteran plodder for the sake of experience, but I have always said that what we actually need is not Barry or DeJong or Yaya, it's two genuine alrounders. Imo, players like Barry, Yaya, Martinez, Didi Hamman, Alonso, etc need to play alongside two others in order to be as effective as one Roy K**ne or half a Colin Bell.

We need to move on from plodders (not sign younger ones for £30 mil).


I have faith in young Jack.


Tbh, joking aside, I think Rodwell (if he ever gets fit) is closer potentially to the kind of player we need for that job, than anything we have signed so far & most we have been linked with. He has pace, athleticism, can tackle, shoot occasionally, is potentially ok in possession once he calms down & can run with the ball at his feet, decent in the air & potentially able to move back into a 3 or perhaps even become a spare central defender in the future.

He will never be a deep, long passing playmaker like Alonso but as someone who can break down the oppo & give the ball to a Silva, play in a team pattern, & make late runs for midfield; he, or a world class version of him, is what we need in the future as opposed to various forms of slowcoaches imo. 2 decent athletes in there leaves 4 others & the fullbacks (and the 'ballplaying cb' cunt) with more freedom to play, knowing the cover is faster if it goes wrong.

He only turns 22 in March & has missed lots of football so far, thus can develop a lot. Martinez for example is 2 & half years older.


What's more, despite his injuries he's still got 90 PL appearances under his belt by the age of 21. Not many players of his age can say that. I've always liked him since he broke through and I was delighted when we signed him out of the blue.

He also had a very good game against Sweden about 18 months ago playing in a more advanced position and went close once or twice.

I couldn't understand at the time why people thought he was a poor signing and can't understand now why people aren't bothered about having him back. I've got a feeling he'll start more matches than not between now and the end of the season.


Well there has been a trend amongst the God Squad to try & absolve Mancini of all blame for anything & that includes pretending he didn't sign Rodwell, so consequently it suits that agenda to take the piss out of him.

Mancini was talking in public about his admiration for Rodwell & how he would like to sign him, two years ago 'but eez an Everton plaaier so eez difficult' etc. I think it's a credit to Bob that he has tried to sign a player to be moulded into a top performer, rather than always go down the easy route. I hope he makes more similar signings in the future.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby MilnersJaw » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:59 pm

johnny crossan wrote:Seriously though, great player as GazBaz is, was and will ever be - should he be tragically run over by a passing bus (going to the MLS for example)who do we get to fill his boots? It's a conundrum of major proportions - high quality central midfielders who can pass, tackle, head, surge, break, recover etc are what every top club would pay a fortune for - and I can't think of many except perhaps a pig leader from the black forest and a couple of Spanish internationals.


seemed fine against leeds or any game he hasn't started in.

barry can pass? how many assists does he have?
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Slim » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:43 am

MilnersJaw wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:Seriously though, great player as GazBaz is, was and will ever be - should he be tragically run over by a passing bus (going to the MLS for example)who do we get to fill his boots? It's a conundrum of major proportions - high quality central midfielders who can pass, tackle, head, surge, break, recover etc are what every top club would pay a fortune for - and I can't think of many except perhaps a pig leader from the black forest and a couple of Spanish internationals.


seemed fine against leeds or any game he hasn't started in.

barry can pass? how many assists does he have?


Seemed fine against a championship side we were walking all over?

How many assists does a holding midfielder have?

I also wonder how many saves he has, his shooting percentage from 3-point range and of course, his RBI in away games against west coast opposition.

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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:53 am

Slim wrote:
MilnersJaw wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:Seriously though, great player as GazBaz is, was and will ever be - should he be tragically run over by a passing bus (going to the MLS for example)who do we get to fill his boots? It's a conundrum of major proportions - high quality central midfielders who can pass, tackle, head, surge, break, recover etc are what every top club would pay a fortune for - and I can't think of many except perhaps a pig leader from the black forest and a couple of Spanish internationals.


seemed fine against leeds or any game he hasn't started in.

barry can pass? how many assists does he have?


Seemed fine against a championship side we were walking all over?

How many assists does a holding midfielder have?

I also wonder how many saves he has, his shooting percentage from 3-point range and of course, his RBI in away games against west coast opposition.

Idiot.



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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:32 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Slim wrote:
MilnersJaw wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:Seriously though, great player as GazBaz is, was and will ever be - should he be tragically run over by a passing bus (going to the MLS for example)who do we get to fill his boots? It's a conundrum of major proportions - high quality central midfielders who can pass, tackle, head, surge, break, recover etc are what every top club would pay a fortune for - and I can't think of many except perhaps a pig leader from the black forest and a couple of Spanish internationals.


seemed fine against leeds or any game he hasn't started in.

barry can pass? how many assists does he have?


Seemed fine against a championship side we were walking all over?

How many assists does a holding midfielder have?

I also wonder how many saves he has, his shooting percentage from 3-point range and of course, his RBI in away games against west coast opposition.

Idiot.



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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby TheGOAT » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:49 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
So, if that's what we are lacking what does Yaya actually do then ?

We need two Yaya's perhaps, because Barry isn't creative enough?

How the fucking hell can it possibly be all his fault ? What are the rest of the midfield actually supposed to be doing ?

If Barry is supposed to be box to box, & create stuff, who has the job of sorting things out when the ball is with the oppo ?

Let's have names.


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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Bluez » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:16 am

Barry is an excellent, very under-rated player who is coming to the end of his career. I hope the new boys upstairs have a plan for his replacement otherwise we will have the same problems as when De Jong left. Totally under-rated but missed when he wasn't there anymore.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 16, 2013 1:31 pm

Now are we FINALLY in agreement that we need to get rid of him and Kolarov?
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu May 16, 2013 1:38 pm

Isco signing is imminent , we dont need Barry.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby gillie » Thu May 16, 2013 1:40 pm

As i stated in another thread Kondogbia is who we need to replace Barry.The lad is going to be a star imo.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Hazy2 » Thu May 16, 2013 1:41 pm

gillie wrote:As i stated in another thread Kondogbia is who we need to replace Barry.The lad is going to be a star imo.


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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 16, 2013 1:42 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Isco signing is imminent , we dont need Barry.


Isco will be replacement for Nasri. I do hope we'll sign someone to replace Barry though.
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