Indulge me - my god I enjoyed that

[DoomMerchant]

I thought the team was not adventurous enough again when I heard the line up. But fair play though we ran over their midfield. Still want to see width and pace.
I wonder if Barry missing and the continued improvement in Garcia and Rodwell's decent contribution gave us that extra bit of drive in midfield?
I'd have started with Handsome Carlito with Aguero.
But thanks for asking.

You can want to see width and pace all day. I want to see a 12" black cock between my legs. Neither will happen because right now we have neither.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

You can want to see width and pace all day. I want to see a 12" black cock between my legs. Neither will happen because right now we have neither.

What is actually wrong with you?


Back on topic, I don't disagree strongly with Piccs, but my problem is just how often we look to out smart the opposition. Sometimes he looks a genius other times a clown. In reality being a wise tactician doesn't mean shit if you can't motivate and that's our Bobby's biggest area for improvement.

[john68]

Lee,
I'm not sure I get this thing about motivation mate.
These guys, not just City players, are adult, professional sportsmen. Why do people consider it necessary that they should be motivated by someone else. They're not children, don't they have some self responsibility in all this motivation thing?

A top Aussie Rugby League coach when asked how he managed to make his side so successful said it was a partnership. "The players were pros, they delivered themselves to him fully fit and mentally ready to play and he gave them the tactics and plan to beat the opposition."

If any City player (any footballer, any sportsperson) has difficulty motivating themselves for a game, they are mentally unfit to play. Mancini's fault or the players?

[Ted Hughes]

Lee,
I'm not sure I get this thing about motivation mate.
These guys, not just City players, are adult, professional sportsmen. Why do people consider it necessary that they should be motivated by someone else. They're not children, don't they have some self responsibility in all this motivation thing?

A top Aussie Rugby League coach when asked how he managed to make his side so successful said it was a partnership. "The players were pros, they delivered themselves to him fully fit and mentally ready to play and he gave them the tactics and plan to beat the opposition."

If any City player (any footballer, any sportsperson) has difficulty motivating themselves for a game, they are mentally unfit to play. Mancini's fault or the players?

Both.

The best managers can get the performance in spite of the players being flawed characters, by pushing the right buttons.

Mancini isn't brilliant at that side of things wheras Mourinho, Ferguson, KK, Harry etc are, but when it wears off, you still need new players. Bob KK & Harry need some new faces every season to keep the others interested imo.

Mourinho less so, Fergus less still, but they still need it.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Lee,
I'm not sure I get this thing about motivation mate.
These guys, not just City players, are adult, professional sportsmen. Why do people consider it necessary that they should be motivated by someone else. They're not children, don't they have some self responsibility in all this motivation thing?

A top Aussie Rugby League coach when asked how he managed to make his side so successful said it was a partnership. "The players were pros, they delivered themselves to him fully fit and mentally ready to play and he gave them the tactics and plan to beat the opposition."

If any City player (any footballer, any sportsperson) has difficulty motivating themselves for a game, they are mentally unfit to play. Mancini's fault or the players?

I'm not saying its his fault, but the best managers can get a reaction when needed. Mancini needs improvement in this area for me.

[Hazy2]

Lee,
I'm not sure I get this thing about motivation mate.
These guys, not just City players, are adult, professional sportsmen. Why do people consider it necessary that they should be motivated by someone else. They're not children, don't they have some self responsibility in all this motivation thing?

A top Aussie Rugby League coach when asked how he managed to make his side so successful said it was a partnership. "The players were pros, they delivered themselves to him fully fit and mentally ready to play and he gave them the tactics and plan to beat the opposition."

If any City player (any footballer, any sportsperson) has difficulty motivating themselves for a game, they are mentally unfit to play. Mancini's fault or the players?

Both.

The best managers can get the performance in spite of the players being flawed characters, by pushing the right buttons.

Mancini isn't brilliant at that side of things wheras Mourinho, Ferguson, KK, Harry etc are, but when it wears off, you still need new players. Bob KK & Harry need some new faces every season to keep the others interested imo.

Mourinho less so, Fergus less still, but they still need it.

Ferguson is a one off Jose is a 3 yr quick fix leaves and it is broken, Harry is a liar, Bob has got his stick and we did look stale this season rejuvinating the squad is crucial, I watch Yaya and think power mad lazy bastard at times and others he is unplayable so he is a mood player who Bob allows to get away with it others are not so well thought off. Jose has lost the Madrid, ethos the Jose coaches and players are close to a full blown war at anytime but could cope for another 3 months when he goes. Last night they were at it next week could be beaten at the swamp and he is gone the next day as the Board at Madrid will not want him for domestic cop final and 10 weeks of moaning.

[Ted Hughes]

Lee,
I'm not sure I get this thing about motivation mate.
These guys, not just City players, are adult, professional sportsmen. Why do people consider it necessary that they should be motivated by someone else. They're not children, don't they have some self responsibility in all this motivation thing?

A top Aussie Rugby League coach when asked how he managed to make his side so successful said it was a partnership. "The players were pros, they delivered themselves to him fully fit and mentally ready to play and he gave them the tactics and plan to beat the opposition."

If any City player (any footballer, any sportsperson) has difficulty motivating themselves for a game, they are mentally unfit to play. Mancini's fault or the players?

Both.

The best managers can get the performance in spite of the players being flawed characters, by pushing the right buttons.

Mancini isn't brilliant at that side of things wheras Mourinho, Ferguson, KK, Harry etc are, but when it wears off, you still need new players. Bob KK & Harry need some new faces every season to keep the others interested imo.

Mourinho less so, Fergus less still, but they still need it.

Ferguson is a one off Jose is a 3 yr quick fix leaves and it is broken, Harry is a liar, Bob has got his stick and we did look stale this season rejuvinating the squad is crucial, I watch Yaya and think power mad lazy bastard at times and others he is unplayable so he is a mood player who Bob allows to get away with it others are not so well thought off. Jose has lost the Madrid, ethos the Jose coaches and players are close to a full blown war at anytime but could cope for another 3 months when he goes. Last night they were at it next week could be beaten at the swamp and he is gone the next day as the Board at Madrid will not want him for domestic cop final and 10 weeks of moaning.

Ferguson is probably the last manager who will ever be able to use the old school 'dictator' method of managing a club where the players are all scared of him & the suits are scared of losing him, so give him what he wants. Even he has changed & joined the suits. Bob fancied doing it the Ferguson way at City but luckily Khaldoon went the opposite way & replaced Cook & Marwood with less bullyable characters instead.

Mourinho though does get performances out of his players, like last night.

I don't know whether he could last ten 20 years, as it's never been tested but imo, although Real have been a mess, if the season started tomorrow, Real would finish closer to Barca or above them, & several of their players ran to him when Real scored, so if he is still there next season, they may win the league again.

That doesn't mean they will beat the rags, as Premier League teams are often difficult fuckers to shake off once they get their claws in, sometimes even when they are not that good. That's why it's the toughest league to play in & even Yaya says Barca couldn't play the same way in it .

[City64]

Ferguson is a first class cunt.

Thankfully he wont be around too much longer !

[getdressedmctavish]

First time for a while you could see the why and wherefore of the selection and game plan, essentially match them in midfield and leave a hole in the box for Ya ya. Worked a treat. Thoroughly enjoyable. More please, Bert(or Bryan)Was Nasty cool or what, an incredible display from a kid and bloody encouraging from Rodwell with pace, aggression, heading and shooting power. Even Garcia did ok.Bloody bizarre performance from Carlos, though.Draft Peroni went down a treat after that.

[zuricity]

First time for a while you could see the why and wherefore of the selection and game plan, essentially match them in midfield and leave a hole in the box for Ya ya. Worked a treat. Thoroughly enjoyable. More please, Bert(or Bryan)Was Nasty cool or what, an incredible display from a kid and bloody encouraging from Rodwell with pace, aggression, heading and shooting power. Even Garcia did ok.Bloody bizarre performance from Carlos, though.Draft Peroni went down a treat after that.

re: Referees, yeah ! in the sense of "Those who can, do. Those who can't teach".

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

First time for a while you could see the why and wherefore of the selection and game plan, essentially match them in midfield and leave a hole in the box for Ya ya. Worked a treat. Thoroughly enjoyable. More please, Bert(or Bryan)Was Nasty cool or what, an incredible display from a kid and bloody encouraging from Rodwell with pace, aggression, heading and shooting power. Even Garcia did ok.Bloody bizarre performance from Carlos, though.Draft Peroni went down a treat after that.

re: Referees, yeah ! in the sense of "Those who can, do. Those who can't teach".

Where does that leave philosophers?

[zuricity]

Where does that leave philosophers?

I think they've got a game against the Long John Silver XI on sunday

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Where does that leave philosophers?

I think they've got a game against the Long John Silver XI on sunday

Are you sure that's not Grasshoppers?

[Beefymcfc]

Lee,
I'm not sure I get this thing about motivation mate.
These guys, not just City players, are adult, professional sportsmen. Why do people consider it necessary that they should be motivated by someone else. They're not children, don't they have some self responsibility in all this motivation thing?

A top Aussie Rugby League coach when asked how he managed to make his side so successful said it was a partnership. "The players were pros, they delivered themselves to him fully fit and mentally ready to play and he gave them the tactics and plan to beat the opposition."

If any City player (any footballer, any sportsperson) has difficulty motivating themselves for a game, they are mentally unfit to play. Mancini's fault or the players?

I'm not saying its his fault, but the best managers can get a reaction when needed. Mancini needs improvement in this area for me.

Southampton to Leeds and Chelsea. Did Mancini get a reaction?

I agree with John here. The players should be up for every match they play and if they're not then they should hand back their pay cheque.

On the same note, I'm sure I've just read that Mourinho doesn't need to freshen up his side and gets the best out of what he's got, or at least that was what was inferred. One word, 'Really?'.

[DoomMerchant]

What is actually wrong with you?

Wrong? Actually?

Are u looking for a diagnosis? PM me and let's discuss.

[Dameerto]

Lee,
I'm not sure I get this thing about motivation mate.
These guys, not just City players, are adult, professional sportsmen. Why do people consider it necessary that they should be motivated by someone else. They're not children, don't they have some self responsibility in all this motivation thing?

A top Aussie Rugby League coach when asked how he managed to make his side so successful said it was a partnership. "The players were pros, they delivered themselves to him fully fit and mentally ready to play and he gave them the tactics and plan to beat the opposition."

If any City player (any footballer, any sportsperson) has difficulty motivating themselves for a game, they are mentally unfit to play. Mancini's fault or the players?

I'm not saying its his fault, but the best managers can get a reaction when needed. Mancini needs improvement in this area for me.

Southampton to Leeds and Chelsea. Did Mancini get a reaction?

I agree with John here. The players should be up for every match they play and if they're not then they should hand back their pay cheque.

On the same note, I'm sure I've just read that Mourinho doesn't need to freshen up his side and gets the best out of what he's got, or at least that was what was inferred. One word, 'Really?'.

The players should keep themselves fit for every match as well, but that doesn't stop the club from overseeing it and providing them with means by which to do it - the same goes for morale. You can't just leave it up to the players or one day (like Southampton) you will regret it.

[john68]

Dameerto,

I wasn't suggesting that morale is left up to the players Mate. In a team sport, morale is a group thing and the club should play a positive role in creating and maintaining it. The same with personal fitness, the club also has a role and expertise to to offer the individual and should do so.

It is within those provided structures that individual players have to take the personal responsibility to ensure they get the most out of them.

With respect to motivation, I think it is too easy to simply blame the manager without considering that the individual player has a personal responsibility to the club that pays him to ensure he is personally motivated.

[Dameerto]

I just think it's one variable in the equation that we're not tweaking enough, whoever is at fault (players, club, manager).

[john68]

I just think it's one variable in the equation that we're not tweaking enough, whoever is at fault (players, club, manager).

I don't dispute that but there seem to those who seem to ignore that a player has responsibilities too.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

The players should keep themselves fit for every match as well, but that doesn't stop the club from overseeing it and providing them with means by which to do it - the same goes for morale. You can't just leave it up to the players or one day (like Southampton) you will regret it.

I didn't say he can never do it, but after the disappointments against QPR and Liverpool I'd rather not add a Southampton before he gets them firing.

Similarly in the champs lg, after last seasons failure he should have has them raring to go this season. We went out without a wimper.

He himself admits Nasri is half arsing it, then he needs to light a fire under his arse or have others chomping at the bit to take his spot.

There's just been too many limp displays this season for my liking. Mancini is happy to point out players flaws, I'm merely expressing my opinion on his. It's not always black and white to just say players should self motivate.