Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

[Cocacolajojo1]

Tell you what, why don't you provide some evidence from his time at City of some positive things he's done which make you think he could be a valuable member of the squad. A goal maybe, or an assist, or even a time when he beat a fullback.

You know what. I couldn't prove he has anything in him worth having. Nor can I prove he's not to our level. Because he's only played a bit part of a bit part so far. With that little time on the pitch it is really hard to make any valuation off his capacity, except that I've noticed traits that are very common with players that have played as little as him or that did not have a full preseason with his team, like him. A lack of sharpness, positional errors, low confidence, etc. That is my argument and the basis for it.

Yet you have dared to argue that these weaknesses, that are obviously the result of a lack of match fitness and the above mentioned arguments, are definite signs of him being incompetent. With so little actual game time to sample from, you must have seen something that really stands out. Please divulge. Bitte.

[Dunnylad]

I'd be amazed if we held onto him - given the chance or not, Mancini doesn't rate him & that's good enough for me & I was hardly creaming myself when he played for Swansea. He simply isn't good enough for a team with title ambitions & that's based on his career to date, not just his time with us.

[Goaters 103]

Amazed we signed him as he's simply not good enough at the top level of the Premier League. Mancini basically apologised to him in his interview the other week, praising his professionalism and commitment and saying he hasnt had many chances - the reason is he simply isnt good enough, and doesnt fit in anywhere to our formation and the way we play.

Lovely lad and all that, but then again so the mate I sit with at City but I wouldnt play him either.

[City64]

I feel a bit sorry for him tbh but yesterday was a massive opportunity for him to shine and he blew it !

[Risby]

It's hard to understand this signing. Either it was full of empty promises on Bobs part or he knew he was going to spend 99% of the season on the bench and hardly playing.
We are not set up for wingers so he will never really shine until that changes. But again, do I think he has the potential to make a difference when we do learn how to play with wingers; no is the answer. He will be sold and we will get someone like Sanches.

[Hazy2]

I feel a bit sorry for him tbh but yesterday was a massive opportunity for him to shine and he blew it !

Best the lad moves on, However he was like the rest of us, ready to get out of the Freezer that was the Etihad, when he got on. Good luck to him.

[Dubciteh]

He wasn't that good at Swansea last season(see the thread when he signed when we liked there forum and they were rubbing their hands at getting 8m for him) quite why anyone thinks he could step up baffles me.

We miss aj big time, see last seasons season review for why, Ok he wasn't 1st choice and didn't do great against the top teams but against the mid to bottom teams he was good and offered us something we don't have now, I'd forgotten what he brought to us til I watched the season review, not replacing him adequately was one of many major mistakes last summer.

[phips]

Tell you what, why don't you provide some evidence from his time at City of some positive things he's done which make you think he could be a valuable member of the squad. A goal maybe, or an assist, or even a time when he beat a fullback.

You know what. I couldn't prove he has anything in him worth having. Nor can I prove he's not to our level. Because he's only played a bit part of a bit part so far. With that little time on the pitch it is really hard to make any valuation off his capacity

there's a reason he's not playing when fit, he's not good enough.

[Slim]

He's a Swansea fan, get him!

On a more serious note I agree with those who say that there is little proof in either direction regarding Sinclair's abilities. Actually, for those of you who think you've seen enough of Sinclair to be ready to discard him, I feel you have a pretty heavy burden on you in the form of providing evidence. And this proof has to be beyond stuff that generally are exhibited by players who are brought in late during the window or hasn't featured a lot during the season.

Either you are football geniuses or you've prematurely turned your back on a player who's done nothing to deserve your lack of belief. It's time to let your true colours shine!

So a player who's been here since August; isn't new to the PL; is living with his girlfriend rather than away from her; and has been trusted for about 2 hours in total by the manager and in that time has given us nothing and yet those who think he might not be good enough for a top two side need to provide the evidence?

Odd, but I'll call Mancini as my first witness.

So your first witness is the man who signed him? OK

And Mancini has, of course, never made a bad purchase.

[Cocacolajojo1]

Tell you what, why don't you provide some evidence from his time at City of some positive things he's done which make you think he could be a valuable member of the squad. A goal maybe, or an assist, or even a time when he beat a fullback.

You know what. I couldn't prove he has anything in him worth having. Nor can I prove he's not to our level. Because he's only played a bit part of a bit part so far. With that little time on the pitch it is really hard to make any valuation off his capacity

there's a reason he's not playing when fit, he's not good enough.

There's tons of players that are good enough or potentially good enough but who are left out of their teams for various reasons. If you have reason to believe that Sinclair's abscence has anything to do with the fact that he'll never ever be good enough for us, please provide the evidence.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Thank god for Ted's post.

When Sinclair came on yesterday you could actually see how eager he was to make an impression. His work rate was exceptional. He was running around like a headless chicken. He just barely got a touch - and when he did get a touch he understandably probs tried to do a bit too much. It's not his fault. He probably can't remember what its like to be on a football pitch at the moment. It's impossible to judge him when he's barely played 90 minutes all year.

I personally think that if he was used as an impact sub a lot more frequently he'd actually probably do a half decent job.

I'd agree with this. His confidence is shot to pieces but he is trying to compensate with sheer effort and he doesn't go hiding. It's sad to see a player in thus state.
And while everybody is wanking AJ off, let's not forget that his problem was always the effort he put in and he has done nothing but slag us off since.

[Goaters 103]

Thank god for Ted's post.

When Sinclair came on yesterday you could actually see how eager he was to make an impression. His work rate was exceptional. He was running around like a headless chicken. He just barely got a touch - and when he did get a touch he understandably probs tried to do a bit too much. It's not his fault. He probably can't remember what its like to be on a football pitch at the moment. It's impossible to judge him when he's barely played 90 minutes all year.

I personally think that if he was used as an impact sub a lot more frequently he'd actually probably do a half decent job.

I'd agree with this. His confidence is shot to pieces but he is trying to compensate with sheer effort and he doesn't go hiding. It's sad to see a player in thus state.
And while everybody is wanking AJ off, let's not forget that his problem was always the effort he put in and he has done nothing but slag us off since.

That move for Johnson's gone really well hasnt it. Hes already a lynchpin in the England starting XI, and Sunderland have really pushed on with him in the team havent they.

If they are lucky they will stay up.

[Hazy2]

He wasn't that good at Swansea last season(see the thread when he signed when we liked there forum and they were rubbing their hands at getting 8m for him) quite why anyone thinks he could step up baffles me.

We miss aj big time, see last seasons season review for why, Ok he wasn't 1st choice and didn't do great against the top teams but against the mid to bottom teams he was good and offered us something we don't have now, I'd forgotten what he brought to us til I watched the season review, not replacing him adequately was one of many major mistakes last summer.

Everton fans turning on Moyes and Fellani, some fans have to be taken with a big pinch of salt, I said we would miss AJ, The DVD of last season shocked me how important his contribution was. I don't think Sinclair is good compared to the level of player we have, however a squad of worldies is not gonna work either. Let him go afor me with a thanks and support from great fans, who wished him well even if it was doomed from day 1, no need to for fans to be underwhelmed I am sure he is.

[Ted Hughes]

Thank god for Ted's post.

When Sinclair came on yesterday you could actually see how eager he was to make an impression. His work rate was exceptional. He was running around like a headless chicken. He just barely got a touch - and when he did get a touch he understandably probs tried to do a bit too much. It's not his fault. He probably can't remember what its like to be on a football pitch at the moment. It's impossible to judge him when he's barely played 90 minutes all year.

I personally think that if he was used as an impact sub a lot more frequently he'd actually probably do a half decent job.

I'd agree with this. His confidence is shot to pieces but he is trying to compensate with sheer effort and he doesn't go hiding. It's sad to see a player in thus state.
And while everybody is wanking AJ off, let's not forget that his problem was always the effort he put in and he has done nothing but slag us off since.

That move for Johnson's gone really well hasnt it. Hes already a lynchpin in the England starting XI, and Sunderland have really pushed on with him in the team havent they.

If they are lucky they will stay up.

Neither of those things matter.

He did a job for us which was sometimes scoring the first or the decisive goal or making the decisive assist.

He was a key player.

People miss DeJong (& so do I for his personality) but he played games earlier this season & we looked EXACTLY the same or worse with him in the team than we do now with Garcia. We have people doing a similar job.

We don't have someone doing AJ's job, & it would be interesting to see how many points AJ directly contributed to last season by changing the game, & how many points we miss the title by, this season.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Domestic player quota. That's the only reason this guy is with us.

[Goaters 103]

Thank god for Ted's post.

When Sinclair came on yesterday you could actually see how eager he was to make an impression. His work rate was exceptional. He was running around like a headless chicken. He just barely got a touch - and when he did get a touch he understandably probs tried to do a bit too much. It's not his fault. He probably can't remember what its like to be on a football pitch at the moment. It's impossible to judge him when he's barely played 90 minutes all year.

I personally think that if he was used as an impact sub a lot more frequently he'd actually probably do a half decent job.

I'd agree with this. His confidence is shot to pieces but he is trying to compensate with sheer effort and he doesn't go hiding. It's sad to see a player in thus state.
And while everybody is wanking AJ off, let's not forget that his problem was always the effort he put in and he has done nothing but slag us off since.

That move for Johnson's gone really well hasnt it. Hes already a lynchpin in the England starting XI, and Sunderland have really pushed on with him in the team havent they.

If they are lucky they will stay up.

Neither of those things matter.

He did a job for us which was sometimes scoring the first or the decisive goal or making the decisive assist.

He was a key player.

People miss DeJong (& so do I for his personality) but he played games earlier this season & we looked EXACTLY the same or worse with him in the team than we do now with Garcia. We have people doing a similar job.

We don't have someone doing AJ's job, & it would be interesting to see how many points AJ directly contributed to last season by changing the game, & how many points we miss the title by, this season.

You miss my point Ted.

Not a criticism of Johnson's ability, but come the end of his career he will regret bailing at a top side like ours and going back to a shit one like Sunderland. He wont admit it yet, but it will all come out in the book.

[Ted Hughes]

Thank god for Ted's post.

When Sinclair came on yesterday you could actually see how eager he was to make an impression. His work rate was exceptional. He was running around like a headless chicken. He just barely got a touch - and when he did get a touch he understandably probs tried to do a bit too much. It's not his fault. He probably can't remember what its like to be on a football pitch at the moment. It's impossible to judge him when he's barely played 90 minutes all year.

I personally think that if he was used as an impact sub a lot more frequently he'd actually probably do a half decent job.

I'd agree with this. His confidence is shot to pieces but he is trying to compensate with sheer effort and he doesn't go hiding. It's sad to see a player in thus state.
And while everybody is wanking AJ off, let's not forget that his problem was always the effort he put in and he has done nothing but slag us off since.

That move for Johnson's gone really well hasnt it. Hes already a lynchpin in the England starting XI, and Sunderland have really pushed on with him in the team havent they.

If they are lucky they will stay up.

Neither of those things matter.

He did a job for us which was sometimes scoring the first or the decisive goal or making the decisive assist.

He was a key player.

People miss DeJong (& so do I for his personality) but he played games earlier this season & we looked EXACTLY the same or worse with him in the team than we do now with Garcia. We have people doing a similar job.

We don't have someone doing AJ's job, & it would be interesting to see how many points AJ directly contributed to last season by changing the game, & how many points we miss the title by, this season.

You miss my point Ted.

Not a criticism of Johnson's ability, but come the end of his career he will regret bailing at a top side like ours and going back to a shit one like Sunderland. He wont admit it yet, but it will all come out in the book.

Fair enough.

Most talented English/British/Irish players have something missing in their attitude which prevents them from being as good as they could be imo. He's yet another one.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Domestic player quota. That's the only reason this guy is with us.

Hart, Richards, Lescott, Clichy, Barry, Milner, Rodwell, R. Wright, Guidetti.

If that is the reason it's nonsense.

[Chinners]

To be fair to Sinclair, he's bagged himself a buxom girlfriend since moving to Manchester ...

[Foreverinbluedreams]

To be fair to Sinclair, he's bagged himself a buxom girlfriend since moving to Manchester ...

Rosie? He bagged her while he was at Swansea. She got in trouble with Swans fans last year for saying Swansea is boring.