Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

[Blue Since 76]

So your first witness is the man who signed him? OK

If you signed someone and rarely played him, not even starting him against various championship teams in the cup would that suggest that:

a) You think he's an excellent footballer, who really adds to the side?
b) Isn't as good as you thought and don't trust him?
c) You didn't sign him?

[Blue Since 76]

You know what. I couldn't prove he has anything in him worth having. Nor can I prove he's not to our level. Because he's only played a bit part of a bit part so far. With that little time on the pitch it is really hard to make any valuation off his capacity, except that I've noticed traits that are very common with players that have played as little as him or that did not have a full preseason with his team, like him. A lack of sharpness, positional errors, low confidence, etc. That is my argument and the basis for it.

Yet you have dared to argue that these weaknesses, that are obviously the result of a lack of match fitness and the above mentioned arguments, are definite signs of him being incompetent. With so little actual game time to sample from, you must have seen something that really stands out. Please divulge. Bitte.

Your knowledge of professional footballer is similar to mine - the square root of fuck all. I'll therefore now to a superior knowledge - Mancini's. So far, Sinclair has appeared a few times, usually very late on as a sub. That he's on the bench suggests he's fit. That he doesn't play suggests that Mancini hasn't seen enough from him in training or not enough when he's played.

So are you suggesting Mancini is wrong?

[Bridge'srightfoot]

You can't not play a player for 7 months, give him 40 minutes in a game where we'd already won and dropped down the tempo and then judge he's shit.
You need to give a player a decent run in the side before you cast them off. I remember people wrote Caciedo off after ten minutes and he actually went on to score some important goals and have some good games for us, albeit in a lower standard team.

[wolfcity]

You can't not play a player for 7 months, give him 40 minutes in a game where we'd already won and dropped down the tempo and then judge he's shit.
You need to give a player a decent run in the side before you cast them off. I remember people wrote Caciedo off after ten minutes and he actually went on to score some important goals and have some good games for us, albeit in a lower standard team.

It's correct that we can't truly form an opinion on Sinclair until he gets a run of games in the team but it's difficult to see where that's going to happen. His signing smacked of desperation and it's unlike Mancini to not give a player a fair chance regardless of the circumstances behind his arrival. Blues getting on his back for borderline cameo appearances is still harsh. He's not really done anything wrong.

He'll leave City before too long and have the opportunity to reinvent his career elsewhere.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

You can't not play a player for 7 months, give him 40 minutes in a game where we'd already won and dropped down the tempo and then judge he's shit.
You need to give a player a decent run in the side before you cast them off. I remember people wrote Caciedo off after ten minutes and he actually went on to score some important goals and have some good games for us, albeit in a lower standard team.

The problem with your point is that Big Phil Testes was in fact a bag of shite.

[branny]

I really don't understand the logic in keeping him and not playing him. Not fair on the lad. If he's that far down the pecking order for a starting place he should have gone out on loan.

[paul_oresteia]

One of my best friends is a Swansea fan....they didn't care in the slightest that he left. Can't see who he'd have replaced in their team this season either.

When Joe Hart scared the shit out of him before the penalty last season...he just doesn't seem to have the bottle or talent to play at the highest level. Mancini must have seen that.

[DoomMerchant]

If you signed someone and rarely played him, not even starting him against various championship teams in the cup would that suggest that:

a) You think he's an excellent footballer, who really adds to the side?
b) Isn't as good as you thought and don't trust him?
c) You didn't sign him?

Uh C. As i've said all along.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

You can't not play a player for 7 months, give him 40 minutes in a game where we'd already won and dropped down the tempo and then judge he's shit.
You need to give a player a decent run in the side before you cast them off. I remember people wrote Caciedo off after ten minutes and he actually went on to score some important goals and have some good games for us, albeit in a lower standard team.

You know why Caicedo is playing in Russian league and scoring less goals there than Jo? Because HIS FIRST TOUCH IS HORRENDOUS. I pretty much saw it from the start and was dead right about it in the end.

[Mase]

How many months did Tevez have off last season and came back after not training and just smashed it up straight away?

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Domestic player quota. That's the only reason this guy is with us.

Hart, Richards, Lescott, Clichy, Barry, Milner, Rodwell, R. Wright, Guidetti.

If that is the reason it's nonsense.

I think I checked it when we signed him and Clichy doesn't actually qualify. Think he was year too late (you have to play as 17 year old to qualify). Could be wrong.
Guidetti was out with knee injury.

The regulations are that there has to be eight players domestically trained among 25 man squad named for both Premier League and Champion's League. Hart, Richards, Lescott, Barry, Milner, Rodwell, Richard Wright and Sinclair gave us precisely eight. In fact, even with that eight we were bit so and so since one long term injury to any of them and we would have had to rely on some youngster from Academy.

Now that brings another question, should we just rely on our youngsters?

Anyway, the biggest reason for signing Sinclair was that he was only even remotely suitable domestic grown player AVAILABLE last day of the transfer window. Now why did we sell Adam Johnson with no replacement lined up late in the transfer window. That's YET another good question.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Domestic player quota. That's the only reason this guy is with us.

Hart, Richards, Lescott, Clichy, Barry, Milner, Rodwell, R. Wright, Guidetti.

If that is the reason it's nonsense.

I think I checked it when we signed him and Clichy doesn't actually qualify. Think he was year too late (you have to play as 17 year old to qualify). Could be wrong.
Guidetti was out with knee injury.

The regulations are that there has to be eight players domestically trained among 25 man squad named for both Premier League and Champion's League. Hart, Richards, Lescott, Barry, Milner, Rodwell, Richard Wright and Sinclair gave us precisely eight. In fact, even with that eight we were bit so and so since one long term injury to any of them and we would have had to rely on some youngster from Academy.

Now that brings another question, should we just rely on our youngsters?

Anyway, the biggest reason for signing Sinclair was that he was only even remotely suitable domestic grown player AVAILABLE last day of the transfer window. Now why did we sell Adam Johnson with no replacement lined up late in the transfer window. That's YET another good question.

Clichy is definitely homegrown. The rule indicates that a player must play within the association for three years before his 21st birthday.

Btw we don't have to have a squad of 25, we could name a squad of 17 and have no homegrowns if we wished.

[Ted Hughes]

Domestic player quota. That's the only reason this guy is with us.

Hart, Richards, Lescott, Clichy, Barry, Milner, Rodwell, R. Wright, Guidetti.

If that is the reason it's nonsense.

I think I checked it when we signed him and Clichy doesn't actually qualify. Think he was year too late (you have to play as 17 year old to qualify). Could be wrong.
Guidetti was out with knee injury.

The regulations are that there has to be eight players domestically trained among 25 man squad named for both Premier League and Champion's League. Hart, Richards, Lescott, Barry, Milner, Rodwell, Richard Wright and Sinclair gave us precisely eight. In fact, even with that eight we were bit so and so since one long term injury to any of them and we would have had to rely on some youngster from Academy.

Now that brings another question, should we just rely on our youngsters?

Anyway, the biggest reason for signing Sinclair was that he was only even remotely suitable domestic grown player AVAILABLE last day of the transfer window. Now why did we sell Adam Johnson with no replacement lined up late in the transfer window. That's YET another good question.

Clichy is definitely homegrown. The rule indicates that a player must play within the association for three years before his 21st birthday.

Btw we don't have to have a squad of 25, we could name a squad of 17 and have no homegrowns if we wished.

I have said this previously; remember how long the Sinclair deal was on hold ? Literally weeks.

He was lined up as backup for another UK qualified player imo. I recon that was Walcott. Arsenal couldn't be persuaded so Bob has chosen Sinclair to fill a squad place, rather than sign nobody in that place, or trust a youngster.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Domestic player quota. That's the only reason this guy is with us.

Hart, Richards, Lescott, Clichy, Barry, Milner, Rodwell, R. Wright, Guidetti.

If that is the reason it's nonsense.

I think I checked it when we signed him and Clichy doesn't actually qualify. Think he was year too late (you have to play as 17 year old to qualify). Could be wrong.
Guidetti was out with knee injury.

The regulations are that there has to be eight players domestically trained among 25 man squad named for both Premier League and Champion's League. Hart, Richards, Lescott, Barry, Milner, Rodwell, Richard Wright and Sinclair gave us precisely eight. In fact, even with that eight we were bit so and so since one long term injury to any of them and we would have had to rely on some youngster from Academy.

Now that brings another question, should we just rely on our youngsters?

Anyway, the biggest reason for signing Sinclair was that he was only even remotely suitable domestic grown player AVAILABLE last day of the transfer window. Now why did we sell Adam Johnson with no replacement lined up late in the transfer window. That's YET another good question.

Clichy is definitely homegrown. The rule indicates that a player must play within the association for three years before his 21st birthday.

Btw we don't have to have a squad of 25, we could name a squad of 17 and have no homegrowns if we wished.

I have said this previously; remember how long the Sinclair deal was on hold ? Literally weeks.

He was lined up as backup for another UK qualified player imo. I recon that was Walcott. Arsenal couldn't be persuaded so Bob has chosen Sinclair to fill a squad place, rather than sign nobody in that place, or trust a youngster.

It doesn't make any sense to sign another homegrown when we already had the quota filled though.

[Ted Hughes]

It doesn't make any sense to sign another homegrown when we already had the quota filled though.

We didn't have the quota filled though.

If we did, he wouldn't be eligible to play now.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

It doesn't make any sense to sign another homegrown when we already had the quota filled though.

We didn't have the quota filled though.

If we did, he wouldn't be eligible to play now.

We did have the quota filled, like I've said above Hart, Wright, Richards, Clichy, Lescott, Barry, Milner, Rodwell. There's the eight.

[Ted Hughes]

It doesn't make any sense to sign another homegrown when we already had the quota filled though.

We didn't have the quota filled though.

If we did, he wouldn't be eligible to play now.

We did have the quota filled, like I've said above Hart, Wright, Richards, Clichy, Lescott, Barry, Milner, Rodwell. There's the eight.

Well think about it.

We can't have the quota filled & still have Sinclair coming on can we ?

So something is obviously wrong in your assessment of our squad.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

It doesn't make any sense to sign another homegrown when we already had the quota filled though.

We didn't have the quota filled though.

If we did, he wouldn't be eligible to play now.

We did have the quota filled, like I've said above Hart, Wright, Richards, Clichy, Lescott, Barry, Milner, Rodwell. There's the eight.

Well think about it.

We can't have the quota filled & still have Sinclair coming on can we ?

So something is obviously wrong in your assessment of our squad.

Of course we can, we're not restricted to eight homegrown, we can have as many as we want up to 25.

[Ted Hughes]

It doesn't make any sense to sign another homegrown when we already had the quota filled though.

We didn't have the quota filled though.

If we did, he wouldn't be eligible to play now.

We did have the quota filled, like I've said above Hart, Wright, Richards, Clichy, Lescott, Barry, Milner, Rodwell. There's the eight.

Well think about it.

We can't have the quota filled & still have Sinclair coming on can we ?

So something is obviously wrong in your assessment of our squad.

Of course we can, we're not restricted to eight homegrown, we can have as many as we want up to 25.

You said the quota was filled, which it couldn't have been or Sinclair wouldn't be allowed to play. Now you are saying something else & I've basically no idea what you are getting at, so with respect, I've got stuff to do & now would be a good time to get on with it.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

It was filled, we had 8 homegrown ( 9 if you include Guidetti ) in our squad before Sinclair was signed, so we didn't need to sign him to fill the quota, it's that simple.

I am not saying something else. We are not restricted to 8 homegrown. We can have as many as we want up to 25. The rule esentially says that you can have no more than 17 non-homegrown players. It doesn't stipulate that you must have x amount of homegrown.