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[Original Dub]

I found this from ESPN reasonably funny and balanced (sort of)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfrGaTV217g">YouTube Link</a>

Yeah I always enjoy the pre match mini dramas they show.

Imagine them trying to be bias in that. Never.

[Im From Manchester]

To me that advert is just their lead pundit talking about what makes you fall in love with footy. Your dad taking you for the first time, the excitement and how the bug gets you etc. Could be any bloke talking about his first time.

I do think there is a kind of institutionalised bias at sky but think some are over analysing this advert.

At least its not redknapp talking about honest harry teaching him about brown envelopes at Bournemouth

And it should be just any bloke talking about his first match etc.

In fact, it should be a few tales of nostalgia. That would be nice.

But sky have appointed one of the most outspoken rag players as their chief analyst and co commentator. He is everywhere on sky now. He is good in his analyst position, but they weren't to know that. He got the job because of who is was.

And no matter how it is painted up, that ad is an ad for man united. Plain and simple. Or else I have learned absolutely nothing about how propaganda works.

The media/sky bias is pushed in the same way as the officiating. Small decisions that make you wonder. Over the course of the season they all add up to influence outcomes.

And the media helps persuade the neutrals and those who wonder, that everything is ok. That united have tradition, history, guts, glory and are trying to fight evil on all fronts.

Between the media and the officiating, they are one powerful machine to overcome. How we did it last season I will never know.

But I'm fucked if everytime another little snippet of bias lands under my nose I'll just play ball and pretend it's just the way it is... or at least all is how it should be. No way.

I want fairness. It may never happen, but that sure as shit doesn't mean I shouldn't keep asking for it.

I want no manager to be able to talk to/about officials before or during a match. Because I'm big and ugly enough to know humans influence other humans.

I want retrospective bans to be the same for each club and not at the hands of the media, who simply have to repeat footage again and again for an investigation to be launched.

I want goal line technology. I want every bit of technology possible that will enhance fairness without affecting the speed of the game. I want the ref to use a stop watch so every game gets 90 mins and not have *chuckle chuckle* good old fergie time.

A level playing field. From the pitch to the paper.

Anyone who thinks we have that is bonkers.

Ps. I want lou macari to stop breathing.

Absolutely bang on the money in every respect. Trying to argue that we have balance on Sky or any other media outlet, or in the premier league and that there isn't institutionalised rag favouritism can only be a rag or in complete denial, even in the face of overwhelming numbers of examples. Frankly that sapphire attempts to redress the balance are frankly laughable. One a clip about the rags AND blues and another that has a 5 second snippet of us scoring a goal against the rags that you could miss if you blinked. That against the constant replaying of the Rooney goal and now a club political broadcast o the rags played every single f*cking day.

Does anyone not question the rags winning the league in the very first season of the premier league!? Fortunate coincidence?

If ever you want to understand the power of the media it is almost the born again views that some City fans now have of rat boy Neville. have they forgotten that he is probably one of the most hated rags ever to have worn the rags shirt. You couldn't have found one blue with a good thing to say about the tw* 2 years ago. Now I regularly come on here and other forums hearing blues singing his praises!! The guy is a rag to the core, you think underneath the tv bravado he is thinking of anything but hate for our club. Of course it will be subtle but I don't trust a word that leaves his mouth and no amount of decent analysis will change the fact that he hates our club.

It is beyond my comprehension that some blues would even try and mount a defence of this no matter how pathetic.

[Dameerto]

I always respected the ratfaced little shite for two things while he was a player - not having an agent, and driving that shitty unfashionable car of his to save the planet etc. He has always known his own mind even if it was a rather repugnant rodent infested swamp of a mind.

[Mase]

I always respected the ratfaced little shite for two things while he was a player - not having an agent, and driving that shitty unfashionable car of his to save the planet etc. He has always known his own mind even if it was a rather repugnant rodent infested swamp of a mind.

Why would he need an agent if he never moved from the rags? It's not like when he was negotiating a new contract he'd say no even if they reduced his wages while he was hanging off Fergie's tiny pecker.

In fact, the horrible little cunt could have employed a friend to act as his agent like Gerrard has done. Then he's looking after a mate at the same time.

[Alex Sapphire]

Frankly that sapphire attempts to redress the balance are frankly laughable..

happy to help.
sounds like you could do with a laugh

[Blue in the face]

Holy shit lads. In the great scheme of things, who really gives a fuck? I watch sky sports morning, noon and night and the rag bias doesn't affect me one ioata. I dont even notice. Maybe I'm anaesthetised against it. Just like if they win the league again this year I look at it as "just another one". They've won too many in my lifetime for me to give a fuck anymore. Fuck 'em. Our day will come soon. Baconface will retire/die and ratboy will have to commentate on City as the best team in the league.

[Blue in the face]

And another thing. Who the fuck watches adverts?????

[Ted Hughes]

Mate, your continuing attempts to show media balance in general, just show what small straws everyone has to clutch to & pretty much prove the opposite.

If the rags had scored a certain goal in the last minute of last season, do you think Sky would be showing ads for 'every' goal or just one ?

That was the biggest thing that's ever happened in domestic football here & I do mean EVER.

Sky would be running that every day, instead of Ratboy, if the rags had scored it, just like the Mirror etc ran ads with Rooney's overhead kick for a good year or so but have never used an ad with 'that' goal on it.

They are ALL pandering to rags, ALL the time. Of course they have to show a bit of City or other teams. HAVE to. Not WANT to.

If it was upto them, they would buy every game of Utd's, show every game of Utd's in every competition, live, & just fill in the gaps in schedule with everyone else but mainly Liverpool.

They are running an advert for Utd every day. Think about it. Did they not realise it would be considered biased by some supporters ? Do they care ? No. It appeals to rags. Is it the only advert they could have used to do the job ? No. But it appeals to rags.

They are choosing to run an advert for Man Utd every day, because it appeals to their main target audience: rags.

Ted, the only thing that is "continuing" is you and OD shouting down anyone who points to media balance (although at least ODub has acknowledged there is some)
You make it sound above as if Sky immediately buried Aguero's goal and it never sees the light of day. Not so.
"All pandering to the Rags all the time" is plainly nonsense: how is the fiction of Rooney being off as recently as last week pandering?
I know you will win this argument on wordcount, and on the last word rule, but while there are knob heads in the press they are not universally determined that they suffocate us and feed the Rag machine. It''s just not that way. And Neville is quite a good pundit it turns out

Actually, that was my first post in the thread replying to a video you posted. I didn't shout anyone down, I made reasonable points & asked questions which you have decided to avoid (I didn't say they buried Aguero's goal, I said it was, & still is the biggest event, so therefore giving City THE CHAMPIONS a bit of air time is not proof of neutrality).

Making comments about me rather than engaging properly in discussion is not the work of someone who has a solid argument imo & a bit of a cop out.

Using the coverage of Rooney's omission from the rags/Madrid game etc as an example of typical media reporting on rags' issues is also weak. You know, as we all do, that was news & had to be reported.

Rather than having the last word myself just by sheer numbers though, I'll let this bloke speak;


‘As regards Joleon, he is a good quality man and serious professional player. He has played a lot in the last month. I don’t know why he has been left out of the squad for England but all the newspapers have pushed for Rio Ferdinand.’

Roberto Mancini.

[twosips]

Holy shit lads. In the great scheme of things, who really gives a fuck? I watch sky sports morning, noon and night and the rag bias doesn't affect me one ioata. I dont even notice. Maybe I'm anaesthetised against it. Just like if they win the league again this year I look at it as "just another one". They've won too many in my lifetime for me to give a fuck anymore. Fuck 'em. Our day will come soon. Baconface will retire/die and ratboy will have to commentate on City as the best team in the league.

So much this ^

Who really cares and why?

[Beefymcfc]

Holy shit lads. In the great scheme of things, who really gives a fuck? I watch sky sports morning, noon and night and the rag bias doesn't affect me one ioata. I dont even notice. Maybe I'm anaesthetised against it. Just like if they win the league again this year I look at it as "just another one". They've won too many in my lifetime for me to give a fuck anymore. Fuck 'em. Our day will come soon. Baconface will retire/die and ratboy will have to commentate on City as the best team in the league.

So much this ^

Who really cares and why?

Obviously, it's down to different mentalities. It's not just about the one advert, it's about the whole piece regarding Sky and the Rags. They are hand-in-hand and some people just don't want it rammed doen their throat, especially when you have to pay for it.

'You pays your money and you takes your choice', as they say. Or not, in my case.

[Rag_hater]

The way I see it is that if our fans (righteous and true) can see this bias then don't people think the (fools) fans of other clubs can see it also.
And if that was the case are not SKY shooting themselves in the foot

[Beefymcfc]

The way I see it is that if our fans (righteous and true) can see this bias then don't people think the (fools) fans of other clubs can see it also.
And if that was the case are not SKY shooting themselves in the foot

Yep, they lost my money but at the same time, by keeping the Rags happy, there were 659 million to take my place.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Fot the umteenth time , anyone that cannot see the OBVIOUS bias needs to slap themselves and do some fuckign research )as if it was really needed).

I fuckign laugh every time we get called paranoid by some of our own fans, as I do not know how fuckign more obvious these cunts can be to make you realize how bad they are with the munchen propoganda machine.

[Original Dub]

Fot the umteenth time , anyone that cannot see the OBVIOUS bias needs to slap themselves and do some fuckign research )as if it was really needed).

I fuckign laugh every time we get called paranoid by some of our own fans, as I do not know how fuckign more obvious these cunts can be to make you realize how bad they are with the munchen propoganda machine.

A fucking men.

[Tokyo Blue]

Fot the umteenth time , anyone that cannot see the OBVIOUS bias needs to slap themselves and do some fuckign research )as if it was really needed).

I fuckign laugh every time we get called paranoid by some of our own fans, as I do not know how fuckign more obvious these cunts can be to make you realize how bad they are with the munchen propoganda machine.

A fucking men.

I agree.

I don't know whether people are naive in thinking it is fair or just mindless sheep.

[Original Dub]

I agree.

I don't know whether people are naive in thinking it is fair or just mindless sheep.

I think some people just want to believe it is balanced or choose to try to ignore it, as some have already stated.

But the rest have had a job done on them. Don't forget, propaganda works. Otherwise it wouldn't exist.

As long as it sells, they will sell it.

[Beefymcfc]

I agree.

I don't know whether people are naive in thinking it is fair or just mindless sheep.

I think some people just want to believe it is balanced or choose to try to ignore it, as some have already stated.

But the rest have had a job done on them. Don't forget, propaganda works. Otherwise it wouldn't exist.

As long as it sells, they will sell it.

I've always held out that they get favourable treatment, even before we were challenging but last years campaign had me wondering if they weren't actually worried about making it so obvious. Some of the decisions they, and we, got were ridiculous. It got to the point where various members of our team were forced to bring it out in the open and strangely everytime they did the goal-posts changed. Mancini mentioned that we were getting a lot of wrong decisions against us and they seemed to stop. Then, Paddy mentioned that United were seemingly getting a lot of wrong decisions going for them and that seemed to stop. That made for an equal/decent run-in for both sides.

The one where I snapped and physically through the toys out of the cott was the Fulham game where Danny Murphy had a clear penalty denied when putting the Rags under real pressure, allowing the Rags to run-out winners. The Shaun Derry sending off was another low point.

[Rag_hater]

The way I see it is that if our fans (righteous and true) can see this bias then don't people think the (fools) fans of other clubs can see it also.
And if that was the case are not SKY shooting themselves in the foot

Yep, they lost my money but at the same time, by keeping the Rags happy, there were 659 million to take my place.

If there are that many of the twat's no wonder SKY advertise to tnem.

[Beefymcfc]

The way I see it is that if our fans (righteous and true) can see this bias then don't people think the (fools) fans of other clubs can see it also.
And if that was the case are not SKY shooting themselves in the foot

Yep, they lost my money but at the same time, by keeping the Rags happy, there were 659 million to take my place.

If there are that many of the twat's no wonder SKY advertise to tnem.

They sell Sky, Sky sell them.

[Rag_hater]

The way I see it is that if our fans (righteous and true) can see this bias then don't people think the (fools) fans of other clubs can see it also.
And if that was the case are not SKY shooting themselves in the foot

Yep, they lost my money but at the same time, by keeping the Rags happy, there were 659 million to take my place.

If there are that many of the twat's no wonder SKY advertise to tnem.

They sell Sky, Sky sell them.

Well just think all them silly people buying it are gonna give us a load of money because of their foolishness.
Just think if the fuckers did not advertise to the rags they would have no money to give us.