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Re: Mancini out

Postby Dunnylad » Sat May 11, 2013 7:09 pm

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Not sure it was the team who decided to take Tevez off. I dont believe for one minute that those players didnt want to win. Mancinis tactics are too rigid and he has instilled the 'walk it into the net' style of play into them too much this season. He has single handedly lost us games due to his tactics and subs this season. The season before he was a genius at it. We have gone backwards completely.


Which is why he should be given another season - he won the league, you don't lose that in one year, but we need to develop the team and move forwards - Fergie going gives us a better opportunity to prove we can win the Title again. As for Tevez coming off, neither he nor Aguero got the service and we needed to push YaYa up to see if that changed things - the subs were logical in my eyes but when YaYa doesn't turn up , Silva is marked out of the game & Nasri decides to return to the sort of performance that had Mancini wanting to punch him it does beg the question what he should have done different - you shouldn't need motivating for a cup final - even Kompany after the match sounded arrogant 'we'll be back' - how do you know? That might be our last & only time and if you haven't left every single ounce of energy on the field then you deserve to be going up the steps first
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Re: Mancini out

Postby tikatakamcfc » Sat May 11, 2013 7:10 pm

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Lee_R wrote:
tikatakamcfc wrote:I dont know why everyone keeps blaming Mancini.

Im sure most of you were were quite satisfied with the selection starting the match. It didnt bring us anything. Had we ACCIDENTALLY scored a goal after Tevez was off, this topic would not exist.

And, oh, by the way - Dzeko isnt good enough for us? Bloke brought us a title, whiny fucks. But Bob chased him away, leaving us with one option for which any decent manager would prepare his defence - which Roberto Martinez, offcourse, did.

You ignorant fucks....


Did you just contradict yourself? Start again.


No I didnt. Dig deeper.

Let me help you. I was disatisfied with Bob won or lost today. 99% ignorants here would still be blind had we accidentaly won. Get it?




You said you don't know why everyone is blaming Mancini, then you proceeded to blame Mancini for making our strike force one-dimensional. Get it?


I was being SARCASTIC.
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Re: Mancini out

Postby Londonblue1 » Sat May 11, 2013 7:13 pm

A painful experience watching that and i feel for anyone who has a long journey home sewing about how bad we really were.
First off the manager picked a good enough team to win.
Second of the team started not one single player put in an acceptable performance today.
Thirdly the manager made mistakes with every substitution.
Man that was so painful its untrue.gutted
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Re: Mancini out

Postby tikatakamcfc » Sat May 11, 2013 7:14 pm

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tikatakamcfc wrote:I dont know why everyone keeps blaming Mancini.

Im sure most of you were were quite satisfied with the selection starting the match. It didnt bring us anything. Had we ACCIDENTALLY scored a goal after Tevez was off, this topic would not exist.

And, oh, by the way - Dzeko isnt good enough for us? Bloke brought us a title, whiny fucks. But Bob chased him away, leaving us with one option for which any decent manager would prepare his defence - which Roberto Martinez, offcourse, did.

You ignorant fucks....


I'd rather be ignorant than to just log on to a forum in order to be smug. And then fail to be smug. Which is like a combination of arrogance and ignorance from your part. And it's also pathetic. And ridiculous.


Boy are we smart today or what? You dont happen to be some kind of poet, do you?
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Re: Mancini out

Postby david yearsley » Sat May 11, 2013 7:15 pm

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Lee_R wrote:
Not sure it was the team who decided to take Tevez off. I dont believe for one minute that those players didnt want to win. Mancinis tactics are too rigid and he has instilled the 'walk it into the net' style of play into them too much this season. He has single handedly lost us games due to his tactics and subs this season. The season before he was a genius at it. We have gone backwards completely.


Which is why he should be given another season - he won the league, you don't lose that in one year, but we need to develop the team and move forwards - Fergie going gives us a better opportunity to prove we can win the Title again. As for Tevez coming off, neither he nor Aguero got the service and we needed to push YaYa up to see if that changed things - the subs were logical in my eyes but when YaYa doesn't turn up , Silva is marked out of the game & Nasri decides to return to the sort of performance that had Mancini wanting to punch him it does beg the question what he should have done different - you shouldn't need motivating for a cup final - even Kompany after the match sounded arrogant 'we'll be back' - how do you know? That might be our last & only time and if you haven't left every single ounce of energy on the field then you deserve to be going up the steps first

Fergie going gives us the ONLY fuclin chance and we CAN´T blow it with Blithering fuclin Bob!!!!!!
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Re: Mancini out

Postby FeedTheGoat3 » Sat May 11, 2013 7:18 pm

Really got a touch of the City of old in that didn't we? This'll test the hipsters., fair play to Wigan, were just simply better than us on the day.
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Re: Mancini out

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 11, 2013 7:19 pm

Dunnylad wrote:
Lee_R wrote:
Not sure it was the team who decided to take Tevez off. I dont believe for one minute that those players didnt want to win. Mancinis tactics are too rigid and he has instilled the 'walk it into the net' style of play into them too much this season. He has single handedly lost us games due to his tactics and subs this season. The season before he was a genius at it. We have gone backwards completely.


Which is why he should be given another season - he won the league, you don't lose that in one year, but we need to develop the team and move forwards - Fergie going gives us a better opportunity to prove we can win the Title again. As for Tevez coming off, neither he nor Aguero got the service and we needed to push YaYa up to see if that changed things - the subs were logical in my eyes but when YaYa doesn't turn up , Silva is marked out of the game & Nasri decides to return to the sort of performance that had Mancini wanting to punch him it does beg the question what he should have done different - you shouldn't need motivating for a cup final - even Kompany after the match sounded arrogant 'we'll be back' - how do you know? That might be our last & only time and if you haven't left every single ounce of energy on the field then you deserve to be going up the steps first


Mate, Mancini has taken the hunger and desire out of the team. Thats the point. When they signed they had something to prove.. they should have been reminded of that feeling again the start of this season. They have the skill and the talent and its not just bobs job to pick the team.. its to motivate them. Do you think the same team would have lost today if Mourinho or Bacon was in charge? No chance!

Hes holding us back with stupid decisions and his lack of motivational skills.

Edit: Fuck me.. even Moyes would have instilled some desire and fight into that team today! And that fucking bothers me.
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Re: Mancini out

Postby Florida Blue » Sat May 11, 2013 7:22 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Probably goner anyway. I think it will be a mistake in a long run and that'd already be second manager in Moyes era but that's what you get for putting your trust on has beens like Gareth Barry.



I totally get where you are coming from, I do, but I do not agree. I understand any supporter who is appreciative of what Mancini has done. I have been supporting City for 14 years, so clearly not my lifetime, and for the most part I have seen us only in the top flight. When I first saw City we were in the first division on our way up. We did go back down, but for the most part I have enjoyed us at the top flight.

That said, I get it. First trophies since 1968. We won the league, won the FA Cup, qualified for Europe then the Champions League. These are great accomplishments, and for those of you who suffered in the time prior to when I became a fan in 1999, I understand your position and your love-fest for him. HOWEVER, I am totally convinced with a more competent manager we would have one or two more trophies, if not three (two league titles and at least 2 FA cups titles). Instead we won in the dying moments last year, when we should have won the trophy 2-3 weeks earlier. We will come in second place this year to a Un***d team that is not 15 points better than us, and clearly not as good as they were last year. I am not saying we should have won the league, but we should have put up a much better effort to push them. Why is this? Simple. We drew against teams in the lower half of the table where Un***d did enough to win those games, no matter how bad they played. I hate Fergie as much as the rest of you, but his players played like they would die for him, our played like they could careless about our manager, and I am not blaming the players as I have had little faith in Mancini.

His tactics are weak, his insistence on using a 3-5-2 on many occasions without result says a lot about how unaware he is about the game at times. Today summed it up perfectly. A team on the verge of relegation, a team we barely beat 1-0 at home (in other words we got to scout them out two weeks before out biggest match of the year) outplayed us for all but 20-25 minutes and ultimately won a match they deserved. Once again he decided that he was a genius and pulling off Tevez in favor of a midfielder made sense. Pulling off Nasri (debatable about how useful he was) instead of an ineffective Barry is inexcusable. Was he the only one that did not see Yaya struggling the last 60 minutes with some injury?

Lastly, he showed why his players do not respect him. I do not care what our BACKUP keeper said in the press, he gave the man his word he would play all FA cup games and he ditched him. Whatever Costel said should have had no bearing on this match. Mancini is not a leader. Last year he said Tevez will never play again for this club, he did. Costel is our keeper throughout the League and FA Cups, he was not.

This is not the right man for our team. Any competent manager would have won us the league last year, the FA Cup two years ago, and certainly today. The manager has two jobs, make goo tactics/substitutions and motivate your team. Mancini has neither of these qualities, at least at this level.

Today sucked, but time to move forward with a new leader. Mancini was out-managed and out-classed by Roberto Martinez today, Wigan and he deserved this one.
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Re: Mancini out

Postby PeterParker » Sat May 11, 2013 7:23 pm

I can't just say: fuck off, Bobby.

We like it or not, he will always be a part of our history.

My problem with him is that he is so stubborn sometimes, like today and he isn''t capable of changing this and that is why i think he must go. His relationship with Mario ruined our dressing room. If he had the boys by his side, the board would have let this season slide. All in all what went wrong? We finished second, got to the Cup final and won the Shield. On paper, this is a good season, but we look shite and this is what will cost him.

Pellegrini is a gamble, we all know that, but i think, well, from what i know him, he is a manager that players like to work with and that will do for me.

Goodbye Bobby, goodbye and thanks for almost 4 incredible years.
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Re: Mancini out

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat May 11, 2013 7:26 pm

Superbia wrote:fuck off

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Re: Mancini out

Postby Cit.revenge » Sat May 11, 2013 7:27 pm

I' m mad because Bob is so one demensional Martinez just protect centar he know Bob do not have other solution . In 60 min Bob is going for random goal for us and protecting goal really u cant defend that , and if he can motivate players not just this game a lot of this same preformance then why have manager at all . Subs pfffff
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Re: Mancini out

Postby Superbia » Sat May 11, 2013 7:28 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Pathtic cunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pathetic*
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Re: Mancini out

Postby zuricity » Sat May 11, 2013 7:30 pm

PeterParker wrote:I can't just say: fuck off, Bobby.

We like it or not, he will always be a part of our history.

My problem with him is that he is so stubborn sometimes, like today and he isn''t capable of changing this and that is why i think he must go. His relationship with Mario ruined our dressing room. If he had the boys by his side, the board would have let this season slide. All in all what went wrong? We finished second, got to the Cup final and won the Shield. On paper, this is a good season, but we look shite and this is what will cost him.

Pellegrini is a gamble, we all know that, but i think, well, from what i know him, he is a manager that players like to work with and that will do for me.

Goodbye Bobby, goodbye and thanks for almost 4 incredible years.


Then why do you say anything ? why not sit back , stop giving knee jerk reactions and let City get on with it. ? we are not the complete team yet, we're almost there.
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Re: Mancini out

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat May 11, 2013 7:31 pm

Superbia wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Pathtic cunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pathetic*

Blame the bestest player this season?
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Re: Mancini out

Postby Blue Oli » Sat May 11, 2013 7:31 pm

Well done Wigan - lets leave that at that - and lets get behind bobby and who ever is in blue next season - we have never had it better and lets not forget that
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Re: Mancini out

Postby tikatakamcfc » Sat May 11, 2013 7:32 pm

zuricity wrote:
PeterParker wrote:I can't just say: fuck off, Bobby.

We like it or not, he will always be a part of our history.

My problem with him is that he is so stubborn sometimes, like today and he isn''t capable of changing this and that is why i think he must go. His relationship with Mario ruined our dressing room. If he had the boys by his side, the board would have let this season slide. All in all what went wrong? We finished second, got to the Cup final and won the Shield. On paper, this is a good season, but we look shite and this is what will cost him.

Pellegrini is a gamble, we all know that, but i think, well, from what i know him, he is a manager that players like to work with and that will do for me.

Goodbye Bobby, goodbye and thanks for almost 4 incredible years.


Then why do you say anything ? why not sit back , stop giving knee jerk reactions and let City get on with it. ? we are not the complete team yet, we're almost there.


Id rather say that we've totally now lost track.
I sure wouldnt say that we're almost there, because its obvious now that we can't win trophies in continuity.
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Re: Mancini out

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 11, 2013 7:34 pm

Anyway .. I know its not a democracy but are we having a vote..?
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Re: Mancini out

Postby Dunnylad » Sat May 11, 2013 7:36 pm

Lee_R wrote:
Mate, Mancini has taken the hunger and desire out of the team. Thats the point. When they signed they had something to prove.. they should have been reminded of that feeling again the start of this season. They have the skill and the talent and its not just bobs job to pick the team.. its to motivate them. Do you think the same team would have lost today if Mourinho or Bacon was in charge? No chance!

Hes holding us back with stupid decisions and his lack of motivational skills.

Edit: Fuck me.. even Moyes would have instilled some desire and fight into that team today! And that fucking bothers me.


Thank you for arguing your point so eloquently - I don't entirely agree with everything you say, but I think we can agree that this season has been disappointing & we regressed not progressed - however, I'd prefer to give Mancini a summer of reflection, a summer when the club bring quality players in & if it doesn't work then I'll agree with where you are heading - I just don't think we've reached the end of the road & it would be premature in my opinion to jettison Mancini now
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Re: Mancini out

Postby JonnyAsh » Sat May 11, 2013 7:36 pm

It's amazing the total groundswell and feeling inside 24 hours...This time yesterday, it was a huge rally call to sing the roof off at Wembley in support of Mancini, as a protest to the board...Today is all about getting him out the door as fast as possible...

I'm only making an observation, but had we somehow scrambled a win, I would have been totally confused!
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Re: Mancini out

Postby tikatakamcfc » Sat May 11, 2013 7:37 pm

Dunnylad wrote:
Lee_R wrote:
Mate, Mancini has taken the hunger and desire out of the team. Thats the point. When they signed they had something to prove.. they should have been reminded of that feeling again the start of this season. They have the skill and the talent and its not just bobs job to pick the team.. its to motivate them. Do you think the same team would have lost today if Mourinho or Bacon was in charge? No chance!

Hes holding us back with stupid decisions and his lack of motivational skills.

Edit: Fuck me.. even Moyes would have instilled some desire and fight into that team today! And that fucking bothers me.


Thank you for arguing your point so eloquently - I don't entirely agree with everything you say, but I think we can agree that this season has been disappointing & we regressed not progressed - however, I'd prefer to give Mancini a summer of reflection, a summer when the club bring quality players in & if it doesn't work then I'll agree with where you are heading - I just don't think we've reached the end of the road & it would be premature in my opinion to jettison Mancini now


Just goes to prove how stupid one average Manchester City fan is.
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