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Re: pelligrini

Postby DoomMerchant » Sun May 12, 2013 1:20 pm

MaineRoadMemories wrote:I haven't seen enough of Pelligrini to have an opinion. Does he play 4-3-3?


I'm not sure he even plays anymore to be honest. I think he's just a coach. Can anyone confirm?
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Superbia » Sun May 12, 2013 1:30 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
I'm not sure he even plays anymore to be honest. I think he's just a coach. Can anyone confirm?


Confirmed but he has a tendency to play LW every now and again
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sun May 12, 2013 1:36 pm

I stuck a youtube vid of him up further back. Talks tactics.. seems competent.

Hes referred to as 'The Engineer'.
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Re: pelligrini

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Re: pelligrini

Postby MilnersJaw » Sun May 12, 2013 1:40 pm

What's his English like
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun May 12, 2013 1:47 pm

Lee_R wrote:Hes referred to as 'The Engineer'.


Because he's a Civil Engineer.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sun May 12, 2013 1:50 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:What's his English like


Apparently good.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun May 12, 2013 1:55 pm

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Lee_R wrote:So I woke up with something in my head..

IF IF IF BIG IF they replace Mancini. I'm thinking were on the verge of a huge spending spree and Trixi and Soprano have realised Mancini doesnt get the best out of his players.. (this fact cannot be argued) so theyre planning on replacing him with someone who does and then bringing in some huge talent.. maybe a couple of signings. Pallegrini works well with south american players.. we have 3 important south american players. He works with their style so it makes some sense.

Real Madrid did the same thing when they spent a crazy £200m on Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema etc. Pallegrini was then installed to coach the best out of them, note: no dictating who they brought in, no arguments. This resulted in RM obtaining their highest points tally ever (97), yet still finishing 2nd. 2nd to a club run by our two fellows.

How can that be a bad thing?

Keep the faith.. its going to be a long ride (either way).

They spent £200 million and failed. That would be a good definition of a bad thing.


Galacticos is bound to fail mate. Even Mourinho has barely managed one la liga and copa del rey in 3 years that too by resorting to negative tactics. I think the board is looking at Villareal and Malaga's success under Pellegrini.

Yes, a flippant remark that I recant. I've been swatting up on Mr Pellegrini since this morning and am pleasantly surprised by what I have found out. He does tactics, attractive football, handles pressure well and motivates his players. Watch him end up at Barcelona next season!
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sun May 12, 2013 2:13 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Clowncrete wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Lee_R wrote:So I woke up with something in my head..

IF IF IF BIG IF they replace Mancini. I'm thinking were on the verge of a huge spending spree and Trixi and Soprano have realised Mancini doesnt get the best out of his players.. (this fact cannot be argued) so theyre planning on replacing him with someone who does and then bringing in some huge talent.. maybe a couple of signings. Pallegrini works well with south american players.. we have 3 important south american players. He works with their style so it makes some sense.

Real Madrid did the same thing when they spent a crazy £200m on Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema etc. Pallegrini was then installed to coach the best out of them, note: no dictating who they brought in, no arguments. This resulted in RM obtaining their highest points tally ever (97), yet still finishing 2nd. 2nd to a club run by our two fellows.

How can that be a bad thing?

Keep the faith.. its going to be a long ride (either way).

They spent £200 million and failed. That would be a good definition of a bad thing.


Galacticos is bound to fail mate. Even Mourinho has barely managed one la liga and copa del rey in 3 years that too by resorting to negative tactics. I think the board is looking at Villareal and Malaga's success under Pellegrini.

Yes, a flippant remark that I recant. I've been swatting up on Mr Pellegrini since this morning and am pleasantly surprised by what I have found out. He does tactics, attractive football, handles pressure well and motivates his players. Watch him end up at Barcelona next season!


I felt the same mate.. I was really pissed off when I looked at his stats etc BUT after diggin a bit deeper its quite an exciting prospect.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun May 12, 2013 2:34 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Yes, a flippant remark that I recant. I've been swatting up on Mr Pellegrini since this morning and am pleasantly surprised by what I have found out. He does tactics, attractive football, handles pressure well and motivates his players. Watch him end up at Barcelona next season!


Agree. Just Googled him and read a lot about why he'd be good for an English club and a lot about when Chelsea were after him. Interesting to read when it doesn't relate to fixing our problems or problem players.

Feeling more confident than when I saw the number of trophies he'd won. But perhaps I'm trying to kid myself like the rags with Moyles
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Re: pelligrini

Postby bobby brows » Sun May 12, 2013 2:36 pm

defiantly watching Malaga on Sky tonight.

i think you have to look at Villarreal and what he did with Forlan and Riquelme
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun May 12, 2013 2:45 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Yes, a flippant remark that I recant. I've been swatting up on Mr Pellegrini since this morning and am pleasantly surprised by what I have found out. He does tactics, attractive football, handles pressure well and motivates his players. Watch him end up at Barcelona next season!


Agree. Just Googled him and read a lot about why he'd be good for an English club and a lot about when Chelsea were after him. Interesting to read when it doesn't relate to fixing our problems or problem players.

Feeling more confident than when I saw the number of trophies he'd won. But perhaps I'm trying to kid myself like the rags with Moyles

Pellegrini split the Barcelona/Real Madrid axis (if only temporarily). Moyes couldn't even split his trousers.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sun May 12, 2013 3:18 pm

Taken from another site

"Who is Manuel Pellegrini?

Who is Manuel Pellegrini? Check his Cv, he has won league titles, he has been in different countries, he speaks excellent English. But his biggest attribute? He maximises the potential of his teams. I hope nobody talks of him as if he was just another manager –not everybody gets the Real Madrid job, for instance, even though there has been 24 coaches in 27 years at the White House. He did a great job at Madrid, pursuing till the end the title in a titanic fight with the best Barcelona in history. Any other year he would have won the league.

Why didn’t he continue at Madrid? He felt sacked as soon as the preseason. Florentino Perez wanted him not to play Robben and Sneijder as they had been bought by the previous chairman and he did play them. As early as then, the communication with the top of the club was severed. And the basis of his managerial style is in preparation: he could be a University teacher if he wanted (perhaps in engineering as he graduated as a civil engineer in 1979). He is a well read, informed, well mannered man who takes pride in remembering that he is not just representing himself but the club at all times, not like other managers.

But also a disciplinarian: when the group is unbalanced, he doesn’t have any problem to fight with the big star if he is the source of the problem (as he did with Riquelme at Villarreal). Guaridola took a couple of tactical concepts from his Villarreal (the work of wingers in attack and the defensive line when the ball gets to the box) and he introduced a new formation and style in la Liga, a 4-2-2-2 way of playing that gave a lot of freedom to the top for forwards but also a lot of discipline to the back six. Wonderful to watch when it works, frustrating while it is being implemented.

Pellegrini is not just a good manager. Look at what he has done with Villarreal (semis Champions league), Madrid and Malaga too. He is actually one of the top managers in the world. He will soon change the mind to the doubters, specially the ill informed ones"
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Re: pelligrini

Postby dave watson's perm » Sun May 12, 2013 3:23 pm

Lee_R wrote:Who is Manuel Pellegrini?

Who is Manuel Pellegrini? Check his Cv, he has won league titles, he has been in different countries, he speaks excellent English. But his biggest attribute? He maximises the potential of his teams. I hope nobody talks of him as if he was just another manager –not everybody gets the Real Madrid job, for instance, even though there has been 24 coaches in 27 years at the White House. He did a great job at Madrid, pursuing till the end the title in a titanic fight with the best Barcelona in history. Any other year he would have won the league.

Why didn’t he continue at Madrid? He felt sacked as soon as the preseason. Florentino Perez wanted him not to play Robben and Sneijder as they had been bought by the previous chairman and he did play them. As early as then, the communication with the top of the club was severed. And the basis of his managerial style is in preparation: he could be a University teacher if he wanted (perhaps in engineering as he graduated as a civil engineer in 1979). He is a well read, informed, well mannered man who takes pride in remembering that he is not just representing himself but the club at all times, not like other managers.

But also a disciplinarian: when the group is unbalanced, he doesn’t have any problem to fight with the big star if he is the source of the problem (as he did with Riquelme at Villarreal). Guaridola took a couple of tactical concepts from his Villarreal (the work of wingers in attack and the defensive line when the ball gets to the box) and he introduced a new formation and style in la Liga, a 4-2-2-2 way of playing that gave a lot of freedom to the top for forwards but also a lot of discipline to the back six. Wonderful to watch when it works, frustrating while it is being implemented.

Pellegrini is not just a good manager. Look at what he has done with Villarreal (semis Champions league), Madrid and Malaga too. He is actually one of the top managers in the world. He will soon change the mind to the doubters, specially the ill informed ones



That makes very interesting reading...
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Superbia » Sun May 12, 2013 3:29 pm

Lee_R wrote:Who is Manuel Pellegrini?

Who is Manuel Pellegrini? Check his Cv, he has won league titles, he has been in different countries, he speaks excellent English. But his biggest attribute? He maximises the potential of his teams. I hope nobody talks of him as if he was just another manager –not everybody gets the Real Madrid job, for instance, even though there has been 24 coaches in 27 years at the White House. He did a great job at Madrid, pursuing till the end the title in a titanic fight with the best Barcelona in history. Any other year he would have won the league.

Why didn’t he continue at Madrid? He felt sacked as soon as the preseason. Florentino Perez wanted him not to play Robben and Sneijder as they had been bought by the previous chairman and he did play them. As early as then, the communication with the top of the club was severed. And the basis of his managerial style is in preparation: he could be a University teacher if he wanted (perhaps in engineering as he graduated as a civil engineer in 1979). He is a well read, informed, well mannered man who takes pride in remembering that he is not just representing himself but the club at all times, not like other managers.

But also a disciplinarian: when the group is unbalanced, he doesn’t have any problem to fight with the big star if he is the source of the problem (as he did with Riquelme at Villarreal). Guaridola took a couple of tactical concepts from his Villarreal (the work of wingers in attack and the defensive line when the ball gets to the box) and he introduced a new formation and style in la Liga, a 4-2-2-2 way of playing that gave a lot of freedom to the top for forwards but also a lot of discipline to the back six. Wonderful to watch when it works, frustrating while it is being implemented.

Pellegrini is not just a good manager. Look at what he has done with Villarreal (semis Champions league), Madrid and Malaga too. He is actually one of the top managers in the world. He will soon change the mind to the doubters, specially the ill informed ones


Excellent post
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Moonchesteri » Sun May 12, 2013 3:30 pm

Lee_R wrote:Who is Manuel Pellegrini?

Who is Manuel Pellegrini? Check his Cv, he has won league titles, he has been in different countries, he speaks excellent English. But his biggest attribute? He maximises the potential of his teams. I hope nobody talks of him as if he was just another manager –not everybody gets the Real Madrid job, for instance, even though there has been 24 coaches in 27 years at the White House. He did a great job at Madrid, pursuing till the end the title in a titanic fight with the best Barcelona in history. Any other year he would have won the league.

Why didn’t he continue at Madrid? He felt sacked as soon as the preseason. Florentino Perez wanted him not to play Robben and Sneijder as they had been bought by the previous chairman and he did play them. As early as then, the communication with the top of the club was severed. And the basis of his managerial style is in preparation: he could be a University teacher if he wanted (perhaps in engineering as he graduated as a civil engineer in 1979). He is a well read, informed, well mannered man who takes pride in remembering that he is not just representing himself but the club at all times, not like other managers.

But also a disciplinarian: when the group is unbalanced, he doesn’t have any problem to fight with the big star if he is the source of the problem (as he did with Riquelme at Villarreal). Guaridola took a couple of tactical concepts from his Villarreal (the work of wingers in attack and the defensive line when the ball gets to the box) and he introduced a new formation and style in la Liga, a 4-2-2-2 way of playing that gave a lot of freedom to the top for forwards but also a lot of discipline to the back six. Wonderful to watch when it works, frustrating while it is being implemented.

Pellegrini is not just a good manager. Look at what he has done with Villarreal (semis Champions league), Madrid and Malaga too. He is actually one of the top managers in the world. He will soon change the mind to the doubters, specially the ill informed ones


IF he does join the blue revolution, I really hope you're right as I got to admit I don't know much about this lad. In fact his name just reminds me of that italian sparkling water!

But for now I'll keep supporting Mancini until MCFC tells us he is no longer the manager.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sun May 12, 2013 3:32 pm

Lee_R wrote:Taken from another site

"Who is Manuel Pellegrini?

Who is Manuel Pellegrini? Check his Cv, he has won league titles, he has been in different countries, he speaks excellent English. But his biggest attribute? He maximises the potential of his teams. I hope nobody talks of him as if he was just another manager –not everybody gets the Real Madrid job, for instance, even though there has been 24 coaches in 27 years at the White House. He did a great job at Madrid, pursuing till the end the title in a titanic fight with the best Barcelona in history. Any other year he would have won the league.

Why didn’t he continue at Madrid? He felt sacked as soon as the preseason. Florentino Perez wanted him not to play Robben and Sneijder as they had been bought by the previous chairman and he did play them. As early as then, the communication with the top of the club was severed. And the basis of his managerial style is in preparation: he could be a University teacher if he wanted (perhaps in engineering as he graduated as a civil engineer in 1979). He is a well read, informed, well mannered man who takes pride in remembering that he is not just representing himself but the club at all times, not like other managers.

But also a disciplinarian: when the group is unbalanced, he doesn’t have any problem to fight with the big star if he is the source of the problem (as he did with Riquelme at Villarreal). Guaridola took a couple of tactical concepts from his Villarreal (the work of wingers in attack and the defensive line when the ball gets to the box) and he introduced a new formation and style in la Liga, a 4-2-2-2 way of playing that gave a lot of freedom to the top for forwards but also a lot of discipline to the back six. Wonderful to watch when it works, frustrating while it is being implemented.

Pellegrini is not just a good manager. Look at what he has done with Villarreal (semis Champions league), Madrid and Malaga too. He is actually one of the top managers in the world. He will soon change the mind to the doubters, specially the ill informed ones"

That wasn't written by a Mrs. Pellgrini, was it?

And who is Guaridola?
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Re: pelligrini

Postby MilnersJaw » Sun May 12, 2013 3:38 pm

Let's just get someone English in. I want big fat Sam, with our resources he will get the results we want.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Sun May 12, 2013 3:41 pm

Has anyone got any knowledge of his ability to spot absolute liabilities clogging up the midfield and then going about moving them on?

Because if he can do this, I'm excited.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sun May 12, 2013 3:43 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:
Lee_R wrote:Taken from another site

"Who is Manuel Pellegrini?

Who is Manuel Pellegrini? Check his Cv, he has won league titles, he has been in different countries, he speaks excellent English. But his biggest attribute? He maximises the potential of his teams. I hope nobody talks of him as if he was just another manager –not everybody gets the Real Madrid job, for instance, even though there has been 24 coaches in 27 years at the White House. He did a great job at Madrid, pursuing till the end the title in a titanic fight with the best Barcelona in history. Any other year he would have won the league.

Why didn’t he continue at Madrid? He felt sacked as soon as the preseason. Florentino Perez wanted him not to play Robben and Sneijder as they had been bought by the previous chairman and he did play them. As early as then, the communication with the top of the club was severed. And the basis of his managerial style is in preparation: he could be a University teacher if he wanted (perhaps in engineering as he graduated as a civil engineer in 1979). He is a well read, informed, well mannered man who takes pride in remembering that he is not just representing himself but the club at all times, not like other managers.

But also a disciplinarian: when the group is unbalanced, he doesn’t have any problem to fight with the big star if he is the source of the problem (as he did with Riquelme at Villarreal). Guaridola took a couple of tactical concepts from his Villarreal (the work of wingers in attack and the defensive line when the ball gets to the box) and he introduced a new formation and style in la Liga, a 4-2-2-2 way of playing that gave a lot of freedom to the top for forwards but also a lot of discipline to the back six. Wonderful to watch when it works, frustrating while it is being implemented.

Pellegrini is not just a good manager. Look at what he has done with Villarreal (semis Champions league), Madrid and Malaga too. He is actually one of the top managers in the world. He will soon change the mind to the doubters, specially the ill informed ones"

That wasn't written by a Mrs. Pellgrini, was it?

And who is Guaridola?



To clear up.. this was a Guillem Balague article.
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