Communiucation from the club

[brite blu sky]

The problem I have is that the club did nothing at all prior to our biggest game of the season. After speaking to a few Blues who went it becomes clear that there was atmosphere growing, well before we got underway. From where I was, it was the same which meant that us fans weren't totally focussed on the game in hand.

What's surprising is that the club couldn't, or wouldn't, even bring out a basic statement to the effect 'Manchester City Football Club are fully behind Roberto Mancini and the players going into the FA Cup Final'. Nothing more needed to be said as it would all have been about the game, not the managers position going forward.

And the players, what would've been going on in their heads? They needed to remain 100% focussed yet they were allowed to go into the game not knowing what the hell was going on.

PS. It's not Vicky Kloss' responsibility to set policy, it's the people above her that make those decisions.

Are you for real Beefy ??? with that mindset Man City should have said Mancini will be sacked next week,,,,but carry on !!!

Dont be daft , we lost the match because the players dont want to play for our manager......why cant you and the other Mancini fans understand this?

Lets see the real truth about what has gone on when our owners decide to tell it to all and sundry...till then we keep supporting our club not the fucking manager.

Instead of slamming into everyone else's comments on the communication from the club, why not tell us what you think on the topic Carl.

So before you have a go at me for asking me that and not saying what i think myself, here it is.

City have shown they are not very bright or imaginative. Very poor handling of the situation that has left all at City prone. Not only could they have done better, they could not have handled it worse. City need a clear out if this is the level of expertise.
pd. ( the comms from City has got nothing to do with the decision making process ).

[Chopper]

Nah I don't feel sorry, I just don't think we should sack a manager that has won us more in 2 seasons than the previous 20 have put together ... thats all

Thats sentments talking , we won because we poured in millions and not because we have a tactical genius managing us.

The players (for the umpteenth time) do not publicly back him and by all accounts dont like playing for him as hes a loon , how many times this season have the players been confused ?????????


Hes gone and Ill always support the club before ANY manager.

So in your line of work Carl youve never butted heads with your superiors or your staff?

Youve complained constantly about Mancini even when we have won?

You talk about his style of play? We've played some great football throughout his time at the club. Only the most one-eyed idiot would try to claim otherwise.

As for man-management, players on 100k+ per week should not expect a fucking cuddle from the manager. They are paid handsomely to do their jobs and deserve to be held to account when they're shit.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The problem I have is that the club did nothing at all prior to our biggest game of the season. After speaking to a few Blues who went it becomes clear that there was atmosphere growing, well before we got underway. From where I was, it was the same which meant that us fans weren't totally focussed on the game in hand.

What's surprising is that the club couldn't, or wouldn't, even bring out a basic statement to the effect 'Manchester City Football Club are fully behind Roberto Mancini and the players going into the FA Cup Final'. Nothing more needed to be said as it would all have been about the game, not the managers position going forward.

And the players, what would've been going on in their heads? They needed to remain 100% focussed yet they were allowed to go into the game not knowing what the hell was going on.

PS. It's not Vicky Kloss' responsibility to set policy, it's the people above her that make those decisions.

Are you for real Beefy ??? with that mindset Man City should have said Mancini will be sacked next week,,,,but carry on !!!

Dont be daft , we lost the match because the players dont want to play for our manager......why cant you and the other Mancini fans understand this?

Lets see the real truth about what has gone on when our owners decide to tell it to all and sundry...till then we keep supporting our club not the fucking manager.

Instead of slamming into everyone else's comments on the communication from the club, why not tell us what you think on the topic Carl.

So before you have a go at me for asking me that and not saying what i think myself, here it is.

City have shown they are not very bright or imaginative. Very poor handling of the situation that has left all at City prone. Not only could they have done better, they could not have handled it worse. City need a clear out if this is the level of expertise.
pd. ( the comms from City has got nothing to do with the decision making process ).

The hierachy know what they are doing , thats why they get paid the big bucks.
Im sure the truth will come out sooner than later but till then fans should support the fuckign clubs handling of all matters.

And another thing,my love for City is for City and not a fuckign manager , I have seen enough this season to want a new manager.
End of.

[Sideshow Bob]

As for man-management, players on 100k+ per week should not expect a fucking cuddle from the manager. They are paid handsomely to do their jobs and deserve to be held to account when they're shit.

on paper, i agree with you. but in reality, as you know, it never works that way. many of these "professionals" are like fucking children, and they often DO need a cuddle. if they don't get one, they spit their dummies and/or sulk and/or demand a transfer and/or generally play like shit.

man management is the reason wigan won and we lost. martinez has kept the dressing room and kept his players motivated, even while their club is falling through the trap door.

[Blue Oli]

Kid left lofts road with bobby - will be reported soon alongside pictures of jimmy saville

[carl_feedthegoat]

Nah I don't feel sorry, I just don't think we should sack a manager that has won us more in 2 seasons than the previous 20 have put together ... thats all

Thats sentments talking , we won because we poured in millions and not because we have a tactical genius managing us.

The players (for the umpteenth time) do not publicly back him and by all accounts dont like playing for him as hes a loon , how many times this season have the players been confused ?????????


Hes gone and Ill always support the club before ANY manager.

So in your line of work Carl youve never butted heads with your superiors or your staff?

Youve complained constantly about Mancini even when we have won?

You talk about his style of play? We've played some great football throughout his time at the club. Only the most one-eyed idiot would try to claim otherwise.

As for man-management, players on 100k+ per week should not expect a fucking cuddle from the manager. They are paid handsomely to do their jobs and deserve to be held to account when they're shit.

Your first point is fair enough.
Your second point is bollocks.

The rest of your post is basically bollocks as well apart from we have played some great football.

[Lee_R]

The problem I have is that the club did nothing at all prior to our biggest game of the season. After speaking to a few Blues who went it becomes clear that there was atmosphere growing, well before we got underway. From where I was, it was the same which meant that us fans weren't totally focussed on the game in hand.

What's surprising is that the club couldn't, or wouldn't, even bring out a basic statement to the effect 'Manchester City Football Club are fully behind Roberto Mancini and the players going into the FA Cup Final'. Nothing more needed to be said as it would all have been about the game, not the managers position going forward.

And the players, what would've been going on in their heads? They needed to remain 100% focussed yet they were allowed to go into the game not knowing what the hell was going on.

PS. It's not Vicky Kloss' responsibility to set policy, it's the people above her that make those decisions.

Are you for real Beefy ??? with that mindset Man City should have said Mancini will be sacked next week,,,,but carry on !!!

Dont be daft , we lost the match because the players dont want to play for our manager......why cant you and the other Mancini fans understand this?

Lets see the real truth about what has gone on when our owners decide to tell it to all and sundry...till then we keep supporting our club not the fucking manager.

Instead of slamming into everyone else's comments on the communication from the club, why not tell us what you think on the topic Carl.

So before you have a go at me for asking me that and not saying what i think myself, here it is.

City have shown they are not very bright or imaginative. Very poor handling of the situation that has left all at City prone. Not only could they have done better, they could not have handled it worse. City need a clear out if this is the level of expertise.
pd. ( the comms from City has got nothing to do with the decision making process ).

The hierachy know what they are doing , thats why they get paid the big bucks.
Im sure the truth will come out sooner than later but till then fans should support the fuckign clubs handling of all matters.

And another thing,my love for City is for City and not a fuckign manager , I have seen enough this season to want a new manager.
End of.

Tbh the longer it goes on the more I'm starting to think theres some big divides at the top, Some for some against Mancini. I reckon (and its just a feeling) that more than coaching staff heads are going to be rolling here.

[ashton287]

Personally i find it hard to give a funk about the bitching of "fans" that live thousands of miles away.

I hear what the real fans want every game. If you nipped into the etihed once in a blue moon Carl and you might understand why some of us are have a sentimental attachment to the club, the players and the manager.

If you can really look at this whole situation without any kind of sentiment creeping into your thinking then your not a city fan. Your just a spectator.

But your not looking at it with a calm business like detachment. Your sentiments on mancini are well documented and it is those sentiments that are guiding your opinion.

[Chopper]

Nah I don't feel sorry, I just don't think we should sack a manager that has won us more in 2 seasons than the previous 20 have put together ... thats all

Thats sentments talking , we won because we poured in millions and not because we have a tactical genius managing us.

The players (for the umpteenth time) do not publicly back him and by all accounts dont like playing for him as hes a loon , how many times this season have the players been confused ?????????


Hes gone and Ill always support the club before ANY manager.

So in your line of work Carl youve never butted heads with your superiors or your staff?

Youve complained constantly about Mancini even when we have won?

You talk about his style of play? We've played some great football throughout his time at the club. Only the most one-eyed idiot would try to claim otherwise.

As for man-management, players on 100k+ per week should not expect a fucking cuddle from the manager. They are paid handsomely to do their jobs and deserve to be held to account when they're shit.

Your first point is fair enough.
Your second point is bollocks.

The rest of your post is basically bollocks as well apart from we have played some great football.

Please suggest an available Manager with a winning percentage better than Mancini.

[Dawnherts]

I just feel the whole thing since Friday is incredibly sad for lots of reasons and in respect of different people (and groups of people). Nothing smells that good at the end of all of this. Our MCFC should be better than this debacle..... :-(

[carl_feedthegoat]

Nah I don't feel sorry, I just don't think we should sack a manager that has won us more in 2 seasons than the previous 20 have put together ... thats all

Thats sentments talking , we won because we poured in millions and not because we have a tactical genius managing us.

The players (for the umpteenth time) do not publicly back him and by all accounts dont like playing for him as hes a loon , how many times this season have the players been confused ?????????


Hes gone and Ill always support the club before ANY manager.

So in your line of work Carl youve never butted heads with your superiors or your staff?

Youve complained constantly about Mancini even when we have won?

You talk about his style of play? We've played some great football throughout his time at the club. Only the most one-eyed idiot would try to claim otherwise.

As for man-management, players on 100k+ per week should not expect a fucking cuddle from the manager. They are paid handsomely to do their jobs and deserve to be held to account when they're shit.

Your first point is fair enough.
Your second point is bollocks.

The rest of your post is basically bollocks as well apart from we have played some great football.

Please suggest an available Manager with a winning percentage better than Mancini.

Off the top of my head ,no idea, but Im sure the owners will answer your question pretty soon.

[Beefymcfc]

The problem I have is that the club did nothing at all prior to our biggest game of the season. After speaking to a few Blues who went it becomes clear that there was atmosphere growing, well before we got underway. From where I was, it was the same which meant that us fans weren't totally focussed on the game in hand.

What's surprising is that the club couldn't, or wouldn't, even bring out a basic statement to the effect 'Manchester City Football Club are fully behind Roberto Mancini and the players going into the FA Cup Final'. Nothing more needed to be said as it would all have been about the game, not the managers position going forward.

And the players, what would've been going on in their heads? They needed to remain 100% focussed yet they were allowed to go into the game not knowing what the hell was going on.

PS. It's not Vicky Kloss' responsibility to set policy, it's the people above her that make those decisions.

Are you for real Beefy ??? with that mindset Man City should have said Mancini will be sacked next week,,,,but carry on !!!

Dont be daft , we lost the match because the players dont want to play for our manager......why cant you and the other Mancini fans understand this?

Lets see the real truth about what has gone on when our owners decide to tell it to all and sundry...till then we keep supporting our club not the fucking manager.

I'm not supporting the manager here and even though I debate the points (dependant on the argument) I'm not really the biggest Mancini fan. I do however, respect him for what he has done but again, this does not reflect my opinion. The opinion here is the way this has been handled and possibly while you were getting giddy that Mancini was going, I was more worrying about the game itself.

So, to further the debate, do you think that this has been dealt with appropriately?

Just for furtherance, I'm looking at many different sites and outlets (listening to the radio also) and I've not come across many who have said this has been handled correctly. In fact, there are a few who are going as far as to say it has been disgraceful.

As for the players, they may not have wanted to play for Mancini but at least the fuckers could have played for us. Don't you think?

[carl_feedthegoat]

The problem I have is that the club did nothing at all prior to our biggest game of the season. After speaking to a few Blues who went it becomes clear that there was atmosphere growing, well before we got underway. From where I was, it was the same which meant that us fans weren't totally focussed on the game in hand.

What's surprising is that the club couldn't, or wouldn't, even bring out a basic statement to the effect 'Manchester City Football Club are fully behind Roberto Mancini and the players going into the FA Cup Final'. Nothing more needed to be said as it would all have been about the game, not the managers position going forward.

And the players, what would've been going on in their heads? They needed to remain 100% focussed yet they were allowed to go into the game not knowing what the hell was going on.

PS. It's not Vicky Kloss' responsibility to set policy, it's the people above her that make those decisions.

Are you for real Beefy ??? with that mindset Man City should have said Mancini will be sacked next week,,,,but carry on !!!

Dont be daft , we lost the match because the players dont want to play for our manager......why cant you and the other Mancini fans understand this?

Lets see the real truth about what has gone on when our owners decide to tell it to all and sundry...till then we keep supporting our club not the fucking manager.

I'm not supporting the manager here and even though I debate the points (dependant on the argument) I'm not really the biggest Mancini fan. I do however, respect him for what he has done but again, this does not reflect my opinion. The opinion here is the way this has been handled and possibly while you were getting giddy that Mancini was going, I was more worrying about the game itself.

So, to further the debate, do you think that this has been dealt with appropriately?

Just for furtherance, I'm looking at many different sites and outlets (listening to the radio also) and I've not come across many who have said this has been handled correctly. In fact, there are a few who are going as far as to say it has been disgraceful.

As for the players, they may not have wanted to play for Mancini but at least the fuckers could have played for us. Don't you think?

I come from a world whereby everyone knows the GM is going but the GM so I dont see whats different here with Mancinis position.
Like I have said , there is a reason why the Club has said nothing , there is more to this than just an end of season sacking.

[Alex Sapphire]

anybody
anybody
who thinks that Saturday, Sunday, today or tomorrow is the right time to speculate, or encourage speculation, or fail to stop speculation about our stability

Is a fucking half wit

that's all

[Chopper]

Off the top of my head ,no idea, but Im sure the owners will answer your question pretty soon.[/quote]

Im not asking the owners Carl. You have said on numerous occasions that he should be sacked but you cant think of a better replacement? Since 1976 only one manager has delivered success yet you describe him as inept. Why is that?

[Lee_R]

Off the top of my head ,no idea, but Im sure the owners will answer your question pretty soon.

Im not asking the owners Carl. You have said on numerous occasions that he should be sacked but you cant think of a better replacement? Since 1976 only one manager has delivered success yet you describe him as inept. Why is that?[/quote]


Pellegrini at Madrid.

[Dunnylad]

I come from a world whereby everyone knows the GM is going but the GM so I dont see whats different here with Mancinis position.
Like I have said , there is a reason why the Club has said nothing , there is more to this than just an end of season sacking.

Agreed the rumours, this elongated silence, the Mancini outbursts - the talk that a load of the scouts / youth staff have been sacked (under 18 coach, Cassell & Paul Power to name but three) - if it was a country wouldn't you say there's a revolution happening, just not quite sure who's the Che Guevara in all this

[Chopper]

With a lower winning percentage? Came 2nd in Another league in Europe?

No doubt Pellegrini is highly able. He did a fine job with two traditionally minor clubs, Villarreal and Malaga, and got 96 points in his sole season at Real Madrid, 2009-10, a record, although not enough to stop Barcelona winning the league.

Yet that campaign also saw Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaka, Karim Benzema and Xabi Alonso arrive in the summer for £210m, plus a 4-0 defeat by third-tier Alcorcon in the Spanish Cup and elimination by Lyon in the last 16 of the Champions League.

Pellegrini then moved to Malaga, who finished fourth backed by the wealth of Sheik Abdullah Al Thani and another significant spending spree of more than £50m. Is this so much greater than Pardew taking Newcastle to fifth in the Premier League in a year when many had them down for relegation?

Pellegrini’s triumphs — he was the last manager to split Barcelona and Real Madrid by finishing second with Villarreal — may have come in unfashionable locales, but his small clubs had big ideas.
Villarreal were backed by investment from the owner of a major ceramics company, Malaga’s overspending made them one of the first clubs to fall foul of UEFA’s financial fair play regulations.

This wasn’t success on a shoestring. Pellegrini was supported in a way many British managers can only dream about.

These were not legacy projects, either, in the manner of Moyes at Everton.

Villarreal are currently in Spain’s second tier and Malaga are banned from Europe next season for financial misconduct.

Pellegrini is clearly an impressive coach and his record in South America includes three titles, but right now is there such a huge difference between this and a Roman Abramovich appointment?

[carl_feedthegoat]

Off the top of my head ,no idea, but Im sure the owners will answer your question pretty soon.

Im not asking the owners Carl. You have said on numerous occasions that he should be sacked but you cant think of a better replacement? Since 1976 only one manager has delivered success yet you describe him as inept. Why is that?[/quote]

I always said since last season that if we came second and won the FA cup I would agree to him given another season (This was before I saw Mancini making the same fuckign mistakes over and over again) Im not going to go into the way he has managed us this seaosn as all the fuckups have all been mentioned on here.

The above is how I felt when we all were asked about Mancini.

We came second and we lost against fuckign Wigan in the FA cup.
Glad hes going.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

I come from a world whereby everyone knows the GM is going but the GM so I dont see whats different here with Mancinis position.
Like I have said , there is a reason why the Club has said nothing , there is more to this than just an end of season sacking.

Agreed the rumours, this elongated silence, the Mancini outbursts - the talk that a load of the scouts / youth staff have been sacked (under 18 coach, Cassell & Paul Power to name but three) - if it was a country wouldn't you say there's a revolution happening, just not quite sure who's the Che Guevara in all this

Really? Interesting, if true.