Mancini Gone: Official Now

[ross.mcfc]

@steaziz_kitman: Arrogant, vein, self centred no manners ignorant just some of Mancini's daily traits really made going into work a grind!! #karma

So this is the first I've seen will it be the last employee to come out?

I do not care if that is true or not. As an employee of the club, what a stupid thing to say.

You know fine well that will get quoted in the press. He will be out of a job by the end of the week.

[paul_oresteia]

I do not care if that is true or not. As an employee of the club, what a stupid thing to say.

You know fine well that will get quoted in the press. He will be out of a job by the end of the week.

He's an ex-employee. Joined Sunderland as their kit man after we won the title.

[ross.mcfc]

I wonder how many other members of staff he speaks for. What a tool.

stephen aziz ‏@steaziz_kitman 20m
not saying he didn't do well to win trophy's etc!just expressing how I felt about this guy! Generally not a nice person!
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stephen aziz ‏@steaziz_kitman 29m
Mcfc on the other hand what a club to work for some great players and staff nice down to earth ppl loved working there!!! #MCFC
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stephen aziz ‏@steaziz_kitman 31m
Fans don't get to see what really goes on and day 2 day running 2 years there seeing him every day was hard work getting a " good morning "
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stephen aziz ‏@steaziz_kitman 36m
Not my style to come in here and start to bad mouth someone but this guy was really a piece of work!!!
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stephen aziz ‏@steaziz_kitman 38m
Arrogant, vein, self centred no manners ignorant just some of Mancini's daily traits really made going into work a grind!! #karma
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stephen aziz ‏@steaziz_kitman 45m
Some city fans unhappy about the sacking most managers would have won trophys with this team a lot of staff and players will be happy!!!
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[AG7]

SSN has changed their headline news now ... just now their 12:30 bit went like this ...

Manchester City have sacked Roberto Mancini ... then they show Fergie on the bus holding trophy ... and the newscaster continues: this is the 15th City manager Sir Alex Ferguson has seen off in his era ... and he has asked Manchester United to hold their grip on the Premier League and go on and win three league titles in a row ...

Fuckers are not wrong about it ... technically Fergie still has a game to lead them in while we have shot ourselves right in both feet. What no one is thinking and I am pissed about is the top three teams will have new managers coming in ... Just when Fergie leaves after all those years, what do Chelsea and Man City do? They also fucking reset their clubs so all could start from scratch ... just can't get my head around this one ...

And guess what, their new manager is in place while we and Chelsea both have no clue except some names linked ... What do they start their season with? A nice and easy Community Shield against a possibly championship side by then who'd have lost their best players and manager by then as well ... and they do fucking count CS as a trophy (in Fergie's no of trophies over these years) so what happens now ... the scum starts off by winning a trophy and the other two well who knows what after the way they have handled this last week or so ... and if Murinhio goes to Chelsea, it'll be them two fighting over top two spots and we'd be fighting for a CL spot with Arsenal and Spurs ...

[Feed The Goat]

SSN has changed their headline news now ... just now their 12:30 bit went like this ...

Manchester City have sacked Roberto Mancini ... then they show Fergie on the bus holding trophy ... and the newscaster continues: this is the 15th City manager Sir Alex Ferguson has seen off in his era ... and he has asked Manchester United to hold their grip on the Premier League and go on and win three league titles in a row ...

Fuckers are not wrong about it ... technically Fergie still has a game to lead them in while we have shot ourselves right in both feet. What no one is thinking and I am pissed about is the top three teams will have new managers coming in ... Just when Fergie leaves after all those years, what do Chelsea and Man City do? They also fucking reset their clubs so all could start from scratch ... just can't get my head around this one ...

And guess what, their new manager is in place while we and Chelsea both have no clue except some names linked ... What do they start their season with? A nice and easy Community Shield against a possibly championship side by then who'd have lost their best players and manager by then as well ... and they do fucking count CS as a trophy (in Fergie's no of trophies over these years) so what happens now ... the scum starts off by winning a trophy and the other two well who knows what after the way they have handled this last week or so ...

Do you believe that we don't have a replacement lined up ready to move in

[AG7]

Do you believe that we don't have a replacement lined up ready to move in

Frankly I haven't even properly digested the FA cup loss yet to an almost relegated side ... have you?

They could have done this two weeks ago BEFORE the Final if they knew its something players v Mancini going on and if they had lined up someone ... they players would have fought for it at least ... also the way club has handled this whole Pelligrini speculation in the media, they have simply allowed a bunch of rag twat reporters dictate this whole episode ... if they can't get this right or manage it properly, can you trust them to have the part 2 of this (next appointment in) sorted already?

[Feed The Goat]

Frankly I haven't even properly digested the FA cup loss yet to an almost relegated side ... have you?

They could have done this two weeks ago BEFORE the Final if they knew its something players v Mancini going on and if they had lined up someone ... they players would have fought for it at least ... also the way club has handled this whole Pelligrini speculation in the media, they have simply allowed a bunch of rag twat reporters dictate this whole episode ... if they can't get this right or manage it properly, can you trust them to have the part 2 of this (next appointment in) sorted already?

Well they had the last change in manager well scouted and ready to take over. I've digested the loss yes we were outplayed by wigan twice in a month. He's not been good enough this season and So has been replaced most probably June 2nd

[phips]

Do you believe that we don't have a replacement lined up ready to move in

if they can't get this right or manage it properly, can you trust them to have the part 2 of this (next appointment in) sorted already?

yes.

[Lev Bronstein]

Despite all, some of the best moments as a City fan have been whilst he's been manager.

Next!!!

[Grandad Rosler]

I keep hearing about stuff going behind the scenes that will put a different slant on things. I'm going to see what comes out in the wash. At times Bob has not helped himself, slagging players off in the press, fighting with Mario on the training ground, slagging the backroom staff off and so on, add some shocking results into the mix I'm not surprised.

This... Ive been in the can see both sides of the coin club all season, he delivered us our silverware and for that I will be forever greatful (years of shit has had to be endured from bellend rags) but some of the stuff we have played this season has been woeful, lost the dressing room in my opinion, slagged off one too many of the players/backroom staff, piss poor substitutions the majority of the time, bottom of champs league grp etc etc not going to lose much sleep.... Boy could he wear the shit out of that scarf though

[Socrates]

City act classless again with our best coach in years. A really sad day. Unfortunately our fucking club always has a knack of screwing up.

Roberto I thank you.

Rare we agree but those words sum up my thoughts so precisely that I cannot even add to them :(

[phips]

im curious what will happen with Sinclair and Lescott. Surely Sinclair isnt good enough for the squad but might he be given a chance now that a new manager will come in? same with Lescott; he sounded like he wanted to leave so he could play more and get back into the England squad, but now Moyes is gone from Everton and Mancini is gone from here. I bet he favors his chances of impressing the new manager and earning a spot in the squad....

[JonnyAsh]

Maybe I am being selective, but there seems to be a reasonable and educated response from the media, basically saying that Mancini's man management was lacking, and being understanding and constructive of the dismissal.
I think this is the point, if it was looked at purely as a success on the pitch situation, there maybe a further degree of sympathy, but the 'holistic' side seems to be hitting home, and the consensus is that it was the right decision. Furthermore, a lot of positive thoughts and feedback re Pellegrini.

[xavi6]

im curious what will happen with Sinclair and Lescott. Surely Sinclair isnt good enough for the squad but might he be given a chance now that a new manager will come in? same with Lescott; he sounded like he wanted to leave so he could play more and get back into the England squad, but now Moyes is gone from Everton and Mancini is gone from here. I bet he favors his chances of impressing the new manager and earning a spot in the squad....

No one will touch Sinclair on a permanent deal, at best we'll ship him out on loan at 50% wages or some shit.

Lescott shouldn't be in the team ahead of Nastasic and hopefully the new manager recognises that.

[phips]

im curious what will happen with Sinclair and Lescott. Surely Sinclair isnt good enough for the squad but might he be given a chance now that a new manager will come in? same with Lescott; he sounded like he wanted to leave so he could play more and get back into the England squad, but now Moyes is gone from Everton and Mancini is gone from here. I bet he favors his chances of impressing the new manager and earning a spot in the squad....

No one will touch Sinclair on a permanent deal, at best we'll ship him out on loan at 50% wages or some shit.

Lescott shouldn't be in the team ahead of Nastasic

agreed on both counts.

im just wondering if, in Lescott's case, we are now going to lose out on a potential transfer fund from him leaving because he now wants to try and prove himself and reclaim his spot under the manager. Lescott seems like the kinda guy that has a very high opinion of himself.

[JonnyAsh]

I think we should make a list for the new manager, of who not to touch, who to move on, and who is more settled and so forth. It would be a big help for him, and save him a lot of bother finding all this out, which takes time...Now, who has a pen?

[phips]

Another interesting perspective:

Man City gamble with Mancini exit

Roberto Mancini was never going to go quietly. Complaining about his employers' refusal to back him publicly marked his last act as Manchester City's manager. By then, he knew his fate had been sealed.

Some 32 hours before City's limp failure in the FA Cup final, the outspoken manager was asked if winning a fourth trophy in three seasons would be just the start for him. His reply was unexpectedly revealing. "I won seven trophies in four years at Inter and they sacked me," he said. "This is football."

It is one of the Italian's catchphrases, but this is indeed football as Mancini knows it. He understands the realpolitik of a dirty business.

Even as Mancini won his third Serie A title at the San Siro, Jose Mourinho was being lined up to replace him. Mancini himself rather embarrassed then-chief executive Garry Cook by announcing on his unveiling as Manchester City manager that they had met weeks before, when Mark Hughes was still manager.

Now Mancini, once again, knew the identity of his successor before his departure. Director of football Txiki Begiristain had been seen weeks ago lunching with Malaga manager Manuel Pellegrini's agent, Jesus Martinez. "I hope they had a good dinner," Mancini said jokingly at the time.

Such humor endeared him to the fourth estate. A problem was that the charm he displayed in public was less apparent in his private dealings. Mancini made too few allies and burned too many bridges at City. Samir Nasri and Joleon Lescott are unlikely to shed too many tears over his departure. Joe Hart certainly won't -- indeed, before a recent interview with the goalkeeper, journalists were pointedly told by City's media officials, who were fearful of Hart's response, that there would be no questions about Mancini.

Rather than massaging egos in the dressing room, Mancini was unafraid to criticize them. Blaming captain Vincent Kompany for playing for Belgium when his manager had hoped he would be recuperating from injury was particularly needless. Perhaps his smarmy sidekick and assistant, David Platt, was supposed to play good cop to his bad cop, but the Englishman didn't. Mancini could be diplomatic, as his dealings with Carlos Tevez in the past 12 months show, but all too often he wasn't.

Careful as he was to praise owner Sheikh Mansour and chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak, the balance of power had shifted to Begiristain and CEO Ferran Soriano. The exiles from the Nou Camp may aim to recreate Barcelona in east Manchester; Mancini, conditioned by decades in Italian football, has another ethos. Years of working for super-rich owners such as Paolo Mantovani, Sergio Cragnotti and Massimo Moratti led Mancini to believe that appealing to billionaire businessmen to make superstar signings was a profitable approach.

He appeared ignorant and uncaring of Financial Fair Play regulations, seeming to think the answer lay in the checkbook. Much as Mancini was right to argue City's failure to win the Premier League title this season was the result of its inability to land his prime targets last summer, Robin van Persie, Eden Hazard, Javi Martinez and Daniele de Rossi would have cost eye-watering sums. Matija Nastasic apart, his finest signings -- Yaya Toure, Sergio Aguero, David Silva -- were proven world-class players. He wanted to sign still more of them this summer, seemingly regardless of cost.

Soriano and Begiristain arrived with a more organic approach. Barcelona developed players. Pellegrini is accustomed to working uncomplainingly within smaller budgets. Crucially, he has done more in La Liga with lesser resources than Mancini has in the Champions League.

Mancini's record on the continent, never outstanding, has gotten worse with back-to-back group-stage exits, albeit from the toughest of pools. Initially negative, he became more cavalier as he found a way to win in England, but the appropriate balance between defense and attack eluded him in Europe. His controversial flirtation with a back three backfired, in particular against Ajax, although Mancini's incessant tinkering led to many a triumph on the domestic front.

Nevertheless, Pellegrini, pushing 60 and untried in England, is not the obvious choice for the future. There is something dogmatic about Soriano and Begiristain's desire to implement a Barcelona-esque 4-3-3 formation; the system is not necessarily superior. And, after Sir Alex Ferguson announced his retirement at Manchester United, there is something strange in City dispensing with a manager who proved capable of taking a title from the Scot.

The reality is that a week ago the Manchester clubs were led by men who had secured 20 league titles in Europe. Now their successors have a combined total of none. While money played its part, Mancini smashed through a glass ceiling at City. The previous 17 managers had failed to bring silverware to the club, including the Community Shield. Mancini secured it in each of his full seasons. His league title, clinched in the 94th minute of the final game of the 2011-12 season, was unforgettable.

So, too, was his greatest triumph, the 6-1 demolition of United and humiliation of Ferguson at Old Trafford and his willingness to go toe-to-toe with Ferguson on the touchline in the April 2012 derby victory.

They are reasons why, no matter who disliked Mancini within the club, he was wildly popular among the supporters and why sacking him represents an almighty gamble by an owner who had not taken a false step until now. The risk is that City will become Chelsea, with its hire-and-fire culture, Mancini as the Mancunian answer to Roberto Di Matteo, the popular Italian sacrificed on the altar of ambition, and Pellegrini the Chilean Rafa Benitez.

"You can stick your Pellegrini up your arse," the City fans chorused at Wembley.

And so this is about more than just a manager. Above the halfway line at Etihad Stadium is a banner that reads: "Manchester thanks you, Sheikh Mansour."

The blue half (City fans), whose hero has been fired, might not be thankful. The red half (United fans) might end up grateful, because Man City is now starting out with a new manager.

[xavi6]

^^^^ Agree with most of that, particularly -

And, after Sir Alex Ferguson announced his retirement at Manchester United, there is something strange in City dispensing with a manager who proved capable of taking a title from the Scot.

[Blue_Manc]

Looking forward to seeing what team Kidd will put out

[Dameerto]

What the fuck does 'holistic' mean.

i think it means being nice to people.

Fully integrated at all levels (of football).