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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 16, 2013 1:43 pm

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gillie wrote:As i stated in another thread Kondogbia is who we need to replace Barry.The lad is going to be a star imo.


Barry and a few quid for Fellani


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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Swales4ever » Thu May 16, 2013 1:44 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Now are we FINALLY in agreement that we need to get rid of him and Kolarov?


tad harsh, isn't it.

Bazza is a great player who have done a magnificent job at City, most of the times with few meres in between.
May agree on that he is on his downside, and most probably close to the door should an opportunity arise.

Kolarov.... he is no longer an issue, is he?

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You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


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there must be some truth, then!
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu May 16, 2013 1:59 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Isco signing is imminent , we dont need Barry.


Isco will be replacement for Nasri. I do hope we'll sign someone to replace Barry though.


I wouldnt get rid of Nasri , I reckon half of his shite arsed performances was down to other reasons , Id give him another season.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby mr_nool » Thu May 16, 2013 2:07 pm

When Barry is on form, he's still one of our best players. Unfortunately he also have those games where he just looks slow, old, and over the hill. This has been the first season when the latter have started to outweigh the former, imo.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby BmoreBlue » Thu May 16, 2013 2:08 pm

think fernandinho and kongdobia have been identified as barry replacements
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 16, 2013 2:09 pm

mr_nool wrote:When Barry is on form, he's still one of our best players. Unfortunately he also have those games where he just looks slow, old, and over the hill. This has been the first season when the latter have started to outweigh the former, imo.


That is just not true.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu May 16, 2013 2:16 pm

Fellaini does NOT read the game defensively & would not replace Barry. He just wins headers & loose balls which happen around him. Not seen enough in the detail of the other two, but I very much doubt they will turn out to be as good as Barry in that aspect.

V Reading, Maicon went on a run, & somehow ended up in centre midfield when we lost the ball with most of our players running forward, so of course Reading immediately fire the ball at right back position, camera spins to the right, expecting to see a Reading player haring off toward our goal but no, we see left footed Gareth Barry, who ten seconds earlier was in the centre, is suddenly calmly collecting the ball at right back & starting another City attack.

How the fuck people can't see this stuff is beyond me, it happens almost every game.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby BlueMoonAwoken » Thu May 16, 2013 2:19 pm

Barry has no talent other than being able to run alot of miles and defend well, he also is capable of playing fairly accurate 40/60 yard balls. I personally dont like him and think he is a weak spot in our midfield especially when we are trying to keep possesion.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby mr_nool » Thu May 16, 2013 2:22 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mr_nool wrote:When Barry is on form, he's still one of our best players. Unfortunately he also have those games where he just looks slow, old, and over the hill. This has been the first season when the latter have started to outweigh the former, imo.


That is just not true.


I certainly think it is. Yes, many of our "star players" have under-performed this season, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that Barry has been mine - and many other's one here - MOTM (or at least in contention) several times this season.

He can definitely be found out against pacy opponents, but when he gets it right he can be immense.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 16, 2013 2:24 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mr_nool wrote:When Barry is on form, he's still one of our best players. Unfortunately he also have those games where he just looks slow, old, and over the hill. This has been the first season when the latter have started to outweigh the former, imo.


That is just not true.


I certainly think it is. Yes, many of our "star players" have under-performed this season, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that Barry has been mine - and many other's one here - MOTM (or at least in contention) several times this season.

He can definitely be found out against pacy opponents, but when he gets it right he can be immense.



So basically, when he is on top of his game and everyone else sucks and opposition isn't fast, he can be one of our better players. Yes, I'd agree with that. However I don't want players who can't deal with fast teams. That's the point.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu May 16, 2013 2:25 pm

BlueMoonAwoken wrote:Barry has no talent other than being able to run alot of miles and defend well, he also is capable of playing fairly accurate 40/60 yard balls. I personally dont like him and think he is a weak spot in our midfield especially when we are trying to keep possesion.


If we can find someone who reads the game as well, passes brilliantly & is faster, then we don't need him.

If we can't, we do.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Sideshow Bob » Thu May 16, 2013 2:25 pm

BlueMoonAwoken wrote:Barry has no talent other than being able to run alot of miles and defend well, he also is capable of playing fairly accurate 40/60 yard balls.


the player you describe is nothing like the barry i watch every week.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu May 16, 2013 2:26 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mr_nool wrote:When Barry is on form, he's still one of our best players. Unfortunately he also have those games where he just looks slow, old, and over the hill. This has been the first season when the latter have started to outweigh the former, imo.


That is just not true.


I certainly think it is. Yes, many of our "star players" have under-performed this season, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that Barry has been mine - and many other's one here - MOTM (or at least in contention) several times this season.

He can definitely be found out against pacy opponents, but when he gets it right he can be immense.



So basically, when he is on top of his game and everyone else sucks and opposition isn't fast, he can be one of our better players. Yes, I'd agree with that. However I don't want players who can't deal with fast teams. That's the point.


Yaya Toure or Garcia can't deal with fast teams.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 16, 2013 2:26 pm

BlueMoonAwoken wrote:Barry has no talent other than being able to run alot of miles and defend well, he also is capable of playing fairly accurate 40/60 yard balls. I personally dont like him and think he is a weak spot in our midfield especially when we are trying to keep possesion.


Is that Gareth Barry?

To answer my question, we aren't all in agreement.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby freshie » Thu May 16, 2013 2:29 pm

mr_nool wrote:
I certainly think it is. Yes, many of our "star players" have under-performed this season, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that Barry has been mine - and many other's one here - MOTM (or at least in contention) several times this season.

He can definitely be found out against pacy opponents, but when he gets it right he can be immense.


Spot on. All the Barry haters can do one ;)
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Rag_hater » Thu May 16, 2013 2:44 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Fellaini does NOT read the game defensively & would not replace Barry. He just wins headers & loose balls which happen around him. Not seen enough in the detail of the other two, but I very much doubt they will turn out to be as good as Barry in that aspect.

V Reading, Maicon went on a run, & somehow ended up in centre midfield when we lost the ball with most of our players running forward, so of course Reading immediately fire the ball at right back position, camera spins to the right, expecting to see a Reading player haring off toward our goal but no, we see left footed Gareth Barry, who ten seconds earlier was in the centre, is suddenly calmly collecting the ball at right back & starting another City attack.

How the fuck people can't see this stuff is beyond me, it happens almost every game.


Being defensive is only a small part of what he is supposed to be doing and in other areas such as dribbling past someone,heading,making goal scoring chances,assisting,scoring every now and then,crossing or shooting he comes up short.Fuck me though he stands in the right place so fuck he is fantastic.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby MR IMAINEROAD » Thu May 16, 2013 3:04 pm

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Ted Hughes wrote:Fellaini does NOT read the game defensively & would not replace Barry. He just wins headers & loose balls which happen around him. Not seen enough in the detail of the other two, but I very much doubt they will turn out to be as good as Barry in that aspect.

V Reading, Maicon went on a run, & somehow ended up in centre midfield when we lost the ball with most of our players running forward, so of course Reading immediately fire the ball at right back position, camera spins to the right, expecting to see a Reading player haring off toward our goal but no, we see left footed Gareth Barry, who ten seconds earlier was in the centre, is suddenly calmly collecting the ball at right back & starting another City attack.

How the fuck people can't see this stuff is beyond me, it happens almost every game.


Being defensive is only a small part of what he is supposed to be doing and in other areas such as dribbling past someone,heading,making goal scoring chances,assisting,scoring every now and then,crossing or shooting he comes up short.Fuck me though he stands in the right place so fuck he is fantastic.


Bobby Moore's reading of the game could also be interpreted as "standing in the right place" as you put it. Sitting on the half way line in the Colin Bell stand week after week and wathcing his (non editorialised) movement off the ball has given me a very clear idea of the value of this particular player. Life isn't always fun and fireworks. Someone has to do the grafting.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby BlueMoonAwoken » Thu May 16, 2013 3:15 pm

I dont hate him, i just personally dont like him, the zabaleta sending off came from barrys poor pass, this has happened on more than one occasion when i have watched barry, also when im watching city and im just screaming at the tv to keep the ball better, barry gets it and tries a chip over the top or finds some way of loosing it when he chooses to pass forward. When he passes backwards or sideways especially if yaya is next to him he looks brilliant. In big games barry gives the ball away in very dangerous situations.


But yes he does graft and can run all day. But in my opinion if we are to progress pass the champions league group stages we need a midfield who is comfortable with the ball, i think this why mancini went for garcia but he was a poor choice.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Rag_hater » Thu May 16, 2013 3:17 pm

MR IMAINEROAD wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Fellaini does NOT read the game defensively & would not replace Barry. He just wins headers & loose balls which happen around him. Not seen enough in the detail of the other two, but I very much doubt they will turn out to be as good as Barry in that aspect.

V Reading, Maicon went on a run, & somehow ended up in centre midfield when we lost the ball with most of our players running forward, so of course Reading immediately fire the ball at right back position, camera spins to the right, expecting to see a Reading player haring off toward our goal but no, we see left footed Gareth Barry, who ten seconds earlier was in the centre, is suddenly calmly collecting the ball at right back & starting another City attack.

How the fuck people can't see this stuff is beyond me, it happens almost every game.


Being defensive is only a small part of what he is supposed to be doing and in other areas such as dribbling past someone,heading,making goal scoring chances,assisting,scoring every now and then,crossing or shooting he comes up short.Fuck me though he stands in the right place so fuck he is fantastic.


Bobby Moore's reading of the game could also be interpreted as "standing in the right place" as you put it. Sitting on the half way line in the Colin Bell stand week after week and wathcing his (non editorialised) movement off the ball has given me a very clear idea of the value of this particular player. Life isn't always fun and fireworks. Someone has to do the grafting.


For me the fact that we have the best defense in the league suggests that the whole team is doing enough grafting.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Dameerto » Thu May 16, 2013 3:28 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Fellaini does NOT read the game defensively & would not replace Barry. He just wins headers & loose balls which happen around him. Not seen enough in the detail of the other two, but I very much doubt they will turn out to be as good as Barry in that aspect.

V Reading, Maicon went on a run, & somehow ended up in centre midfield when we lost the ball with most of our players running forward, so of course Reading immediately fire the ball at right back position, camera spins to the right, expecting to see a Reading player haring off toward our goal but no, we see left footed Gareth Barry, who ten seconds earlier was in the centre, is suddenly calmly collecting the ball at right back & starting another City attack.

How the fuck people can't see this stuff is beyond me, it happens almost every game.


I saw that, Maicon actually lined up just ahead and to the side of the leftback after he lost the ball. I was wondering what the fucl he was doing. I THINK he was taking the closest 'zone' to where he'd lost the ball with the midfielders having to accomodate him (meaning one was pushed over to the right and one had to take Maicon's original 'zone' at rightback.
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