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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Mase » Thu May 16, 2013 8:51 pm

freshie wrote:
So one poor pass defines his season?


Look at what I quoted. The game said "apart from Southampton". I was pointed out he was shite last weekend just like the rest of the players. Unfortunately Barry was probably the worst.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Elvistheblue » Thu May 16, 2013 8:58 pm

Mase wrote:
freshie wrote:
So one poor pass defines his season?


Look at what I quoted. The game said "apart from Southampton". I was pointed out he was shite last weekend just like the rest of the players. Unfortunately Barry was probably the worst.


Barry was not the worse player on the pitch in the cup final....if that is what you are referring to. In my opinion, he was one of the better performers, if not the only one that could hold his head up high after it.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Slim » Thu May 16, 2013 9:01 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:barry is basically a flat tire.

he puts a shift in, he covers the back and does some good defensive work. but when we have possession, he slows everything down. with yaya doing whatever he does, and garcia being purely defensive. we need another midfielder that can put a killer pass through the mid or assist going forward. barry unfortunately doesn't do shit going forward. and like others have said, loses the ball alot too

if he does have the ball, he will pass the ball back and sidewards alot, like that other shite player, carrick. overall though we are missing a xavi like player in central mid, and barry is taking that place up. in games where he hasn't played, i've seen alot more speed.


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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Mase » Thu May 16, 2013 9:09 pm

Elvistheblue wrote:
Barry was not the worse player on the pitch in the cup final....if that is what you are referring to. In my opinion, he was one of the better performers, if not the only one that could hold his head up high after it.


Are you being serious or joking? It's hard to tell on here sometimes.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Thu May 16, 2013 9:15 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Fellaini does NOT read the game defensively & would not replace Barry. He just wins headers & loose balls which happen around him. Not seen enough in the detail of the other two, but I very much doubt they will turn out to be as good as Barry in that aspect.

V Reading, Maicon went on a run, & somehow ended up in centre midfield when we lost the ball with most of our players running forward, so of course Reading immediately fire the ball at right back position, camera spins to the right, expecting to see a Reading player haring off toward our goal but no, we see left footed Gareth Barry, who ten seconds earlier was in the centre, is suddenly calmly collecting the ball at right back & starting another City attack.

How the fuck people can't see this stuff is beyond me, it happens almost every game.


Exactly how I feel.

Barry has never been quick and yes his legs are on the decline, but for my money anyone who has had a career like his based purely on his football brain, should be looked at as coach material.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu May 16, 2013 10:22 pm

This passing thing with Barry IS ANOTHER LOAD OF FUCKING BOLLOKS perpetuated by people who don't like him, gaining an IMPRESSION because they don't like him & has NO BASIS IN FACT.

I repeat: IT'S NOT FUCKING TRUE.

His normal pass success rate is perfectly acceptable & there is no signinficant loss of possession due to Gareth Barry. IT IS NOT TRUE.

And before anyone slips any bollocks in about it being because he only passes sideways, his long pass success rate is 77.78 percent. The 12th best in the Premier League. Lampard has 75.21 with a similar no of long passes.

If people are going to slag him off, at least be honest about it.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu May 16, 2013 10:30 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:This passing thing with Barry IS ANOTHER LOAD OF FUCKING BOLLOKS perpetuated by people who don't like him, gaining an IMPRESSION because they don't like him & has NO BASIS IN FACT.

I repeat: IT'S NOT FUCKING TRUE.

His normal pass success rate is perfectly acceptable & there is no signinficant loss of possession due to Gareth Barry. IT IS NOT TRUE.

And before anyone slips any bollocks in about it being because he only passes sideways, his long pass success rate is 77.78 percent. The 12th best in the Premier League. Lampard has 75.21 with a similar no of long passes.

If people are going to slag him off, at least be honest about it.


77% of 50 is very different to 77% of 200, so your stat means fuck all. Get the actual numbers and we can debate it.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Rae4685 » Thu May 16, 2013 10:53 pm

You're all tripping Barry was a massive parr of us winning the league last season. He hasn't been the same this season but nobody has. He definitely possesses plenty enough ability to be in our squad even if he doesnt start every game
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby dazby » Thu May 16, 2013 11:23 pm

Gazbaz is worthy of a place in the side until he is displaced by Rodders. Simple.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby freshie » Thu May 16, 2013 11:27 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:This passing thing with Barry IS ANOTHER LOAD OF FUCKING BOLLOKS perpetuated by people who don't like him, gaining an IMPRESSION because they don't like him & has NO BASIS IN FACT.

I repeat: IT'S NOT FUCKING TRUE.

His normal pass success rate is perfectly acceptable & there is no signinficant loss of possession due to Gareth Barry. IT IS NOT TRUE.

And before anyone slips any bollocks in about it being because he only passes sideways, his long pass success rate is 77.78 percent. The 12th best in the Premier League. Lampard has 75.21 with a similar no of long passes.

If people are going to slag him off, at least be honest about it.


Exactly - he's one of the best passers in the side, sometimes he takes risks when trying through balls (which don't always come off, but when they do are pretty spectacular) and at least he doesn't kee passing backwards or playing shitty square balls. Barry makes the team tick and provides an invaluable shield to the back 4 and is a big reason for our magnificent defensive record over the last 2 seasons. If he is as shit as some of you on here say he is how is he a guranteed starter when fit? Over the last 2 seasons he has been one fo the most consistent performers in the squad and I have lost count of the number of times I have left the Etihad saying that Barry was MOTM. A vastly underrated player by many on here and one who polarises opinion more than any other player at the club, why I don't know. He has been great for us and I don't understand how some of you on here can't see it.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby freshie » Thu May 16, 2013 11:31 pm

Mase wrote:
freshie wrote:
So one poor pass defines his season?


Look at what I quoted. The game said "apart from Southampton". I was pointed out he was shite last weekend just like the rest of the players. Unfortunately Barry was probably the worst.


Well that's complete bollocks for a start - I can name quite a few who were worse than Barry against Wigan in the cup final - Silva, Yaya, Aguero all had abysmal games but somehow seem immune from criticism by many on here. He wasn't shite against Wigan, he just had the misfortune of misplacing a pass that cost Zabaleta a red card. Apart from that error he was one of our better players. How you cannot see that is beyond me
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby freshie » Thu May 16, 2013 11:33 pm

Mase wrote:
Elvistheblue wrote:
Barry was not the worse player on the pitch in the cup final....if that is what you are referring to. In my opinion, he was one of the better performers, if not the only one that could hold his head up high after it.


Are you being serious or joking? It's hard to tell on here sometimes.


Were you sober when you watched the game?
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 17, 2013 5:46 am

Elvistheblue wrote:Gareth Barry is a good footballer. I can see why people don't think he is, but anyone that knows anything about football appreciates that Barry is a good footballer.


This is EXACTLY the kind of foolish comment you hear associated to Gareth Barry. Not that I haven't used that idiotic "if you don't agree with me you don't know shit about football" argument myself. It's still retarded.

I'd like to think I know thing or two about football thank you for asking. I'm no fucking Mancini but I've been involved with the game one way or another since the day I was born.

Generally, there are clearly still people who see purpose for him. Let's revisit this topic in say october and see how everyone feels then. As I predicted on this topic back in february, I'm pretty sure it will turn sour for him next season and ditching him off in january or next summer with bitter feeling will be shite. Why not quit while we are still (somewhat) ahead?
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Wooders » Fri May 17, 2013 5:54 am

Milner should work on the "midfield general" aspect of his game - would be up for that
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 17, 2013 5:59 am

Wooders wrote:Milner should work on the "midfield general" aspect of his game - would be up for that


Definitely.
This Pellegrini guy was talking about 4-2-2-2 system on that vid that was posted which was peculiar because he always seems to have had anchor man who has tons of movement and great delivery in his teams from what I've seen of them. I assume that either he is planning to use Yaya there or bring a new guy in. Problem is, as much as I love him, Yaya doesn't have the natural fitness to do it over 50 or 60 odd games in a season. That is a fact. So I would love it if Pellegrini and his Spanish mates would make him learn that role. I think Milner has potential to excel in that role.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Mase » Fri May 17, 2013 6:15 am

freshie wrote:
Were you sober when you watched the game?


Yes.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Wooders » Fri May 17, 2013 6:32 am

Christ i wasnt, not by the end - fucking hammered and loose in london, spent a fortune - was apparently in "yo sushi" at one point in the evening if my bank statement is to be believed
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Rag_hater » Fri May 17, 2013 8:03 am

Ted Hughes wrote:This passing thing with Barry IS ANOTHER LOAD OF FUCKING BOLLOKS perpetuated by people who don't like him, gaining an IMPRESSION because they don't like him & has NO BASIS IN FACT.

I repeat: IT'S NOT FUCKING TRUE.

His normal pass success rate is perfectly acceptable & there is no signinficant loss of possession due to Gareth Barry. IT IS NOT TRUE.

And before anyone slips any bollocks in about it being because he only passes sideways, his long pass success rate is 77.78 percent. The 12th best in the Premier League. Lampard has 75.21 with a similar no of long passes.

If people are going to slag him off, at least be honest about it.



I'm glad you bought stats into the debate.That lazy sod who nobody knows what he does has a number of - 82.83% and,about 80% is considered about what is expected of classy players.
No doubt he is a good tackler but thats the job he has been given.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 17, 2013 8:12 am

Ted Hughes wrote:This passing thing with Barry IS ANOTHER LOAD OF FUCKING BOLLOKS perpetuated by people who don't like him, gaining an IMPRESSION because they don't like him & has NO BASIS IN FACT.

I repeat: IT'S NOT FUCKING TRUE.

His normal pass success rate is perfectly acceptable & there is no signinficant loss of possession due to Gareth Barry. IT IS NOT TRUE.

And before anyone slips any bollocks in about it being because he only passes sideways, his long pass success rate is 77.78 percent. The 12th best in the Premier League. Lampard has 75.21 with a similar no of long passes.

If people are going to slag him off, at least be honest about it.


When did I say he is shit passer of football? He is nowhere near one of the best but his passing is acceptable. It's his pace, or rather lack of it, that's the problem. And the fact that he takes too much time on the ball before delivering passes meaning our attacks break up because of it. Those are his main weaknesses.

And he could still do perfectly fine job for team competing for Europa league spot or something. But if we are talking about team that aims to challenge for league title and Champion's League, it has become painfully apparent that he isn't good enough anymore to be a starter. I'm sure he has 12th best completion rate in his long balls but we need our central midfielders to be in top 5. Top 12 is not good enough.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Original Dub » Fri May 17, 2013 8:31 am

Rae4685 wrote:You're all tripping Barry was a massive parr of us winning the league last season. He hasn't been the same this season but nobody has. He definitely possesses plenty enough ability to be in our squad even if he doesnt start every game


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