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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri May 17, 2013 10:57 am

Alex Sapphire wrote:
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Alex Sapphire wrote:Best of luck to him

I notice it doesn't say "in his new role Patrick will report to Brian Marwood as Head of the City Football Academy"


Because he won't.

Neither did Mancini.


mmm
Mancini wasn't coaching the EDS though so not sure what you mean

I'm wondering what is Marwood's remit other than overseeing a building project?
Holistic (apart from meaning being nice) suggests "joined up thinking " so why isn't the development squad part of the city football academy? Unless they think (as I do) that Marwood isn't up to pissing and chewing gum



Marwood has been in charge of football development, so it will be the academy & all such stuff around the club. The people developing the academy have done a fantasic job so imo, Marwood has done a fantastic job. This is more important to me than 10 Mancinis.

The job building the academy is almost done, in fact may be done now. Whether they will keep him on just purely to oversee the running of it & other such stuff, I don't know, but I'm not sure he'd find that very stimulating & we have far more qualified people to deal with the actual football matters.

I could imagine him building one at Arsenal.
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby littlebig » Fri May 17, 2013 12:07 pm

Top notch personality to have around the club, you can't buy prestige.

Here's hoping he turns out to be as good a coach as he's equipped to be. Good luck Paddy V
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby spiny » Sat May 18, 2013 11:23 am

Slim wrote:They are moving to put a City man in the role instead of a manager appointment.


A first step towards continuity and succession planning away from whims of managers who will come and go. Paddy will attract the best. No reason why we dont follow the Ajax model where there are a number of coaches working with individual players.
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby Dunnylad » Sat May 18, 2013 11:52 am

Hazy2 wrote:
There are lots of i's in his name but not in TEAM....


No but there is 'ME'
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby Zabaleta » Sun May 19, 2013 1:31 pm

Vieira will take charge of the academy. Txiki and Sorriano love him. Think about this, Txiki and Sorriano are planning to make him their Pep Guardiola at Barca.
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby guv111 » Sun May 19, 2013 1:57 pm

The man has class and dignity; glad he is staying.
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sun May 19, 2013 5:15 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Thumbs up for this. I reckon Paddy will work miracles with those kids. Instill that winning mentality he always had.

Only thing that bothers me is that according to all the reports and some autobiographies I've read, Vieira was shockingly lazy in training as a player. Doesn't necesserily mean anything as far as management goes though.


When George Graham was a player, he was a notoriously 'lazy' trainer and in a game, he well lived up to his nickname of "Stroller".

When he became a Manager, the teams he built were certainly not in the image of himself as a player, so it could well be a case of 'do as I say, not as I do'.

On a different tack, there might also be a cost saving benefit to the Club, if Vieira's previous role/post is not being filled.
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby Dunnylad » Sun May 19, 2013 5:29 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
When George Graham was a player, he was a notoriously 'lazy' trainer and in a game, he well lived up to his nickname of "Stroller".

When he became a Manager, the teams he built were certainly not in the image of himself as a player, so it could well be a case of 'do as I say, not as I do'.

On a different tack, there might also be a cost saving benefit to the Club, if Vieira's previous role/post is not being filled.


I would have thought the last thing we were worried about was the cost of Vieira's role - it seemed it was more of a made up job to keep him in place before finding something really useful he could contribute to ie wanted to keep him around & not have him swan off to arsenal - it's also allowed him to complete a coaching badge so the time hasn't been wasted
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun May 19, 2013 5:37 pm

Why wasn't Paddy given this job earlier? Mancini installed Lombardo into the post this season when it made sense to put Paddy in there.
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby Dunnylad » Sun May 19, 2013 6:16 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Why wasn't Paddy given this job earlier? Mancini installed Lombardo into the post this season when it made sense to put Paddy in there.


Maybe he'd already paid his course fees and couldn't duck out of it - is there a requirement to have badges if your training at that level? Maybe his CRB hasn't gone through?
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sun May 19, 2013 6:30 pm

Dunnylad wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
When George Graham was a player, he was a notoriously 'lazy' trainer and in a game, he well lived up to his nickname of "Stroller".

When he became a Manager, the teams he built were certainly not in the image of himself as a player, so it could well be a case of 'do as I say, not as I do'.

On a different tack, there might also be a cost saving benefit to the Club, if Vieira's previous role/post is not being filled.


I would have thought the last thing we were worried about was the cost of Vieira's role - it seemed it was more of a made up job to keep him in place before finding something really useful he could contribute to ie wanted to keep him around & not have him swan off to arsenal - it's also allowed him to complete a coaching badge so the time hasn't been wasted


Absolutely; however, a cost saving is still a cost saving irrespective of how it comes about, so there's no point in looking a gift horse in the mouth.
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Re: Patrick Vieira

Postby Hazy2 » Mon May 20, 2013 6:18 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Why wasn't Paddy given this job earlier? Mancini installed Lombardo into the post this season when it made sense to put Paddy in there.


Always after the event... But why was he not with the 1st team for the last 2 games.
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