pellegrini

[The Foggy Blue]

City need to sign Cavani. He is epic.

I don't use the word lightly

[Slim]

City need to sign Cavani. He is epic.

I don't use the word lightly

You just used the word lightly....it's the last word you typed.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

You just used the word lightly....it's the last word you typed.

Splendid post. Made me smile.

[kinkylola]

how is pelligrini's record against Mourinho? I've suddenly become interested.

[CTID Hants]

how is pelligrini's record against Mourinho? I've suddenly become interested.

Those stats would take a little longer, but here is one set of figures of their records at RM, I appreciate that moreen had longer, the figure that did stand out was the win percentage/rate:


Manuel Pellegrini 2 June 2009 26 May 2010 48 36 5 7 119 48 75.00
José Mourinho Portugal 28 May 2010 June 2013 178 128 28 22 475 168 71.91

[zuricity]

Those stats would take a little longer, but here is one set of figures of their records at RM, I appreciate that moreen had longer, the figure that did stand out was the win percentage/rate:

Manuel Pellegrini 2 June 2009 26 May 2010 48 36 5 7 119 48 75.00
José Mourinho Portugal 28 May 2010 June 2013 178 128 28 22 475 168 71.91

You're not 'trending' enough! :-) was he on a downhill trend that jose corrected ?

[Beefymcfc]

Nothing starts until he's signed. Today was grace but now hurry the fuck up!

[Saul Goodman]

how is pelligrini's record against Mourinho? I've suddenly become interested.

Those stats would take a little longer, but here is one set of figures of their records at RM, I appreciate that moreen had longer, the figure that did stand out was the win percentage/rate:

Manuel Pellegrini 2 June 2009 26 May 2010 48 36 5 7 119 48 75.00
José Mourinho Portugal 28 May 2010 June 2013 178 128 28 22 475 168 71.91

im curious why writers are saying Pellegrini didnt do well at RM....

[Im_Spartacus]

im curious why writers are saying Pellegrini didnt do well at RM....

Me too. Ill informed would be my view.

They had an embarrassing cup exit, but dont all teams every now and again.

If he delivered a 96 point haul here and we lost the league, it certainly wouldnt be for the want of trying, and he would go down as a legend.

It all boils down to the perception that he was sacked, when in fact the brass at madrid are on record saying he would never have been 'sacked' had mourinho not been available.

[Bluedays]

In my opinion if we didn't get cavani I wouldn't be that upset as he is very expensive. I know very little about Pellegrini but from reading it sounds like 4-2-3-1.

Aguero/Dzeko

Isco/silva. Nasri/tevez. Milner/navas

Toure/rodwell. Barry/"Garcia"

"Kolarov"/clichy Koms/nasty/lescott. Zabs/Rich

Hart/?

From this I see we need a fourth choice centre back. Rekik? A spare goalkeeper and maybe a replacement for kolarov and Garcia.
Overall if we went with this tactic and got these players I would be happy. And cavani could be a replacement for dzeko or a third striker for injuries like aguero again

[Im_Spartacus]

In my opinion if we didn't get cavani I wouldn't be that upset as he is very expensive. I know very little about Pellegrini but from reading it sounds like 4-2-3-1.

Aguero/Dzeko

Isco/silva. Nasri/tevez. Milner/navas

Toure/rodwell. Barry/"Garcia"

"Kolarov"/clichy Koms/nasty/lescott. Zabs/Rich

Hart/?

From this I see we need a fourth choice centre back. Rekik? A spare goalkeeper and maybe a replacement for kolarov and Garcia.
Overall if we went with this tactic and got these players I would be happy. And cavani could be a replacement for dzeko or a third striker for injuries like aguero again

I struggle to see where a little dude like aguero is going to fit into that sort of gig, other than actually behind the main forward.

[Bluedays]

Hmmm never thought of that. Knew there would be a flaw. Bugger :-P. Well cavani and dzeko up front and then aguero or tevez in CAM. With nasri as backup to all 3 attacking midfield positions. Could complain tho. Hard work this is :-P

[Beefymcfc]

im curious why writers are saying Pellegrini didnt do well at RM....

Me too. Ill informed would be my view.

They had an embarrassing cup exit, but dont all teams every now and again.

If he delivered a 96 point haul here and we lost the league, it certainly wouldnt be for the want of trying, and he would go down as a legend.

It all boils down to the perception that he was sacked, when in fact the brass at madrid are on record saying he would never have been 'sacked' had mourinho not been available.

It all boils down to him winning fuck all that season. I don't see that as being detrimental to his appointment but if Chelsea or United out-do him where do we go next?

[Im_Spartacus]

It all boils down to him winning fuck all that season. I don't see that as being detrimental to his appointment but if Chelsea or United out-do him where do we go next?

No, sorry mate winning fuck all that season at Real doesn't come into it. Thats the sort of simplistic view some elements of the media are peddling for us now, saying he will be automatically sacked next season if he wins nothing, which I dont believe to be true, just as it wasnt true at madrid.

There is a real prospect that Jose could galvanise the talent chelsea have and have a great season, win the league with say 95 points. Would it really be a failure if he lost the league with 90+ points for example and qualified us out of the champions league group or better?

I'd agree it would be a cause for concern if he lost it by a wide margin of points and was dumped out of the champs league without a whimper.

As I said, the brass at madrid were on record that in any other situation (Maureen's availability) he would not have been removed as manager.

[Beefymcfc]

It all boils down to him winning fuck all that season. I don't see that as being detrimental to his appointment but if Chelsea or United out-do him where do we go next?

No, sorry mate winning fuck all that season doesn't come into it. Thats the sort of simplistic view some elements of the media are peddling, saying he will be automatically sacked next season if he wins nothing, which I dont believe to be true, just as it wasnt true at madrid.

As I said, the brass at madrid were on record that in any other situation (Maureen's availability) he would not have been removed as manager.

No, they didn't peddle it, nothing like they did against Mourinho. Pellers was given a chance media wise, he was fucked over in every other respect.

Just one question, where was he on your list of replacements?

[Im_Spartacus]

No, they didn't peddle it, nothing like they did against Mourinho. Pellers was given a chance media wise, he was fucked over in every other respect.

Just one question, where was he on your list of replacements?

I think i said to you previously that he is someone who a friend tipped up a long while ago, and i've been interested in him since then as an option, an option that to be honest, I didnt think would feature on city's radar. Before that I knew nothing about him, and still to be honest don't profess to be an expert - however the point about the circumstances of his sacking from Real was something that stuck with me from when I first read up about him, perhaps back in January.

Back then my thoughts were that he would be a gamble, a view I still hold now because of his lack of premier league experience and to a lesser extent his age. But then again who wouldnt be out of those currently available.......so to specifically answer your question, I never had a list or gave it much thought, as I didn't think the mancini situation would escalate so quickly

Pellegrini was an interesting option for me, but someone with experience of our league, strong track record, maybe the likes of ancelotti would have personally been my preference.

[aaron bond]

Well it looks like our first signing of the summer is going to be Navas. Whilst I understand the decision to sign him was heavily influenced by our Director of Football set-up, I'm sure Pellegrini was still consulted, and by signing a winger, we have taken one step to filling a gap we have in our squad. That's a good start.

[Alex Sapphire]

It all boils down to him winning fuck all that season. I don't see that as being detrimental to his appointment but if Chelsea or United out-do him where do we go next?

No, sorry mate winning fuck all that season at Real doesn't come into it. Thats the sort of simplistic view some elements of the media are peddling for us now, saying he will be automatically sacked next season if he wins nothing, which I dont believe to be true, just as it wasnt true at madrid.

There is a real prospect that Jose could galvanise the talent chelsea have and have a great season, win the league with say 95 points. Would it really be a failure if he lost the league with 90+ points for example and qualified us out of the champions league group or better?

I'd agree it would be a cause for concern if he lost it by a wide margin of points and was dumped out of the champs league without a whimper.

As I said, the brass at madrid were on record that in any other situation (Maureen's availability) he would not have been removed as manager.

His "failure" at RM "wasn't his fault", it was down to their structure:
"I didn't have a voice or a vote at Madrid. They sign the best players, but not the best players needed in a certain position. It’s no good having an orchestra with the 10 best guitarists if I don’t have a pianist. Real Madrid have the best guitarists, but if I ask them to play the piano they won’t be able to do it so well. He [Pérez] sold players that I considered important. We didn't win the Champions League because we didn't have a squad properly structured to be able to win it."[
So lets hope he has a voice and gets a vote here.
Although is that the model they're punting?

[kinkylola]

It all boils down to him winning fuck all that season. I don't see that as being detrimental to his appointment but if Chelsea or United out-do him where do we go next?

No, sorry mate winning fuck all that season at Real doesn't come into it. Thats the sort of simplistic view some elements of the media are peddling for us now, saying he will be automatically sacked next season if he wins nothing, which I dont believe to be true, just as it wasnt true at madrid.

There is a real prospect that Jose could galvanise the talent chelsea have and have a great season, win the league with say 95 points. Would it really be a failure if he lost the league with 90+ points for example and qualified us out of the champions league group or better?

I'd agree it would be a cause for concern if he lost it by a wide margin of points and was dumped out of the champs league without a whimper.

As I said, the brass at madrid were on record that in any other situation (Maureen's availability) he would not have been removed as manager.

His "failure" at RM "wasn't his fault", it was down to their structure:
"I didn't have a voice or a vote at Madrid. They sign the best players, but not the best players needed in a certain position. It’s no good having an orchestra with the 10 best guitarists if I don’t have a pianist. Real Madrid have the best guitarists, but if I ask them to play the piano they won’t be able to do it so well. He [Pérez] sold players that I considered important. We didn't win the Champions League because we didn't have a squad properly structured to be able to win it."[
So lets hope he has a voice and gets a vote here.
Although is that the model they're punting?

in my opinion, the real madrid model and the barca model are different. Maybe hazy can comment further on that ... but the barca model, and a similar model we might be pursuing seems a bit more structured than the madrid galactico era, where it seemed like they bought whatever player was rated highest at the time. If we're really up on the 'holistic' bit of our club message, then I don't think this should be as big a concern for us.

[Beefymcfc]

No, they didn't peddle it, nothing like they did against Mourinho. Pellers was given a chance media wise, he was fucked over in every other respect.

Just one question, where was he on your list of replacements?

I think i said to you previously that he is someone who a friend tipped up a long while ago, and i've been interested in him since then as an option, an option that to be honest, I didnt think would feature on city's radar. Before that I knew nothing about him, and still to be honest don't profess to be an expert - however the point about the circumstances of his sacking from Real was something that stuck with me from when I first read up about him, perhaps back in January.

Back then my thoughts were that he would be a gamble, a view I still hold now because of his lack of premier league experience and to a lesser extent his age. But then again who wouldnt be out of those currently available.......so to specifically answer your question, I never had a list or gave it much thought, as I didn't think the mancini situation would escalate so quickly

Pellegrini was an interesting option for me, but someone with experience of our league, strong track record, maybe the likes of ancelotti would have personally been my preference.

That's fine mate and I think most knew about the interest but without that where would Pellers have been on your list? For me, he wasn't even on the horizon.

Slim edit: Knew, not new.