Jesus Navas SIGNED!

[JamieMCFC]

Not to judge the fella out, but maybe some spanish blues around here can respond to this question:

Why Real or Barcelona didn"t bought him or showed interest in him? I"ve watched him since Sevilla was stellar with Dani Alves and Kanoute, Navas was good and i have never heard anything about him, ever. No offers, nothing.

What is wrong with him?

Navas said: "We've been talking with Manchester City for four months. The decision is taken.

"There had been rumours (about Real Madrid), but Manchester City were in from the start and I had decided some time ago. It's a good project and it was the moment to make the step.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... eal-Madrid

[Wonderwall]

Navas said: "We've been talking with Manchester City for four months. The decision is taken.

"There had been rumours (about Real Madrid), but Manchester City were in from the start and I had decided some time ago. It's a good project and it was the moment to make the step.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... eal-Madrid

Our signings are definitely brainwashed with the word PROJECT

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Not to judge the fella out, but maybe some spanish blues around here can respond to this question:

Why Real or Barcelona didn"t bought him or showed interest in him? I"ve watched him since Sevilla was stellar with Dani Alves and Kanoute, Navas was good and i have never heard anything about him, ever. No offers, nothing.

What is wrong with him?

Navas said: "We've been talking with Manchester City for four months. The decision is taken.

"There had been rumours (about Real Madrid), but Manchester City were in from the start and I had decided some time ago. It's a good project and it was the moment to make the step.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... eal-Madrid

Ping Ted Hughes.

Like I said, manager has little say in identnifying targets and weaknesses within squad. This whole Navas project was on when Mancini was still manager. Mancini who never used wingers. They just kept with their despite new manager who isn't even signed yet.

What makes this Navas signing so interesting is that from what I've seen of him over the years he has little versatility. He is a specialist winger who hugs the touchline and lives off his pace and trickery. Now I love good wing player myself but spending this sort of money for wideman ties the hands of the new manager somewhat as far as tactics go. This is pretty much why Pellegrini himself felt he failed with Real.

[DoomMerchant]

Ping Ted Hughes.

Like I said, manager has little say in identnifying targets and weaknesses within squad. This whole Navas project was on when Mancini was still manager. Mancini who never used wingers. They just kept with their despite new manager who isn't even signed yet.

What makes this Navas signing so interesting is that from what I've seen of him over the years he has little versatility. He is a specialist winger who hugs the touchline and lives off his pace and trickery. Now I love good wing player myself but spending this sort of money for wideman ties the hands of the new manager somewhat as far as tactics go. This is pretty much why Pellegrini himself felt he failed with Real.

"This sort of money"? I think yr on some mancio herb. Settle down. He was cheap as chips. These new Spanish geezers are playing it like barca. Players forcing their own moves. Paying fair market value. I like it.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Ping Ted Hughes.

Like I said, manager has little say in identnifying targets and weaknesses within squad. This whole Navas project was on when Mancini was still manager. Mancini who never used wingers. They just kept with their despite new manager who isn't even signed yet.

What makes this Navas signing so interesting is that from what I've seen of him over the years he has little versatility. He is a specialist winger who hugs the touchline and lives off his pace and trickery. Now I love good wing player myself but spending this sort of money for wideman ties the hands of the new manager somewhat as far as tactics go. This is pretty much why Pellegrini himself felt he failed with Real.

"This sort of money"? I think yr on some mancio herb. Settle down. He was cheap as chips. These new Spanish geezers are playing it like barca. Players forcing their own moves. Paying fair market value. I like it.

I think you are missing the point here by good country mile.

[Cit.revenge]

Ok we doing this time on time things , Man life is boring without football!!!

[Ted Hughes]

Not to judge the fella out, but maybe some spanish blues around here can respond to this question:

Why Real or Barcelona didn"t bought him or showed interest in him? I"ve watched him since Sevilla was stellar with Dani Alves and Kanoute, Navas was good and i have never heard anything about him, ever. No offers, nothing.

What is wrong with him?

Navas said: "We've been talking with Manchester City for four months. The decision is taken.

"There had been rumours (about Real Madrid), but Manchester City were in from the start and I had decided some time ago. It's a good project and it was the moment to make the step.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... eal-Madrid

Ping Ted Hughes.

Like I said, manager has little say in identnifying targets and weaknesses within squad. This whole Navas project was on when Mancini was still manager. Mancini who never used wingers. They just kept with their despite new manager who isn't even signed yet.

What makes this Navas signing so interesting is that from what I've seen of him over the years he has little versatility. He is a specialist winger who hugs the touchline and lives off his pace and trickery. Now I love good wing player myself but spending this sort of money for wideman ties the hands of the new manager somewhat as far as tactics go. This is pretty much why Pellegrini himself felt he failed with Real.

Half the signings Mancini made were beng negotiated when Hughes was manager.

There is no other option. If you don't talk to players all the time they don't sign. The bullshit that Mancini was coming out with regarding transfers, that we didn't work on them til the very end, was exactly that; bullshit & blatant lies. Garcia himself said we had contacted him months earlier. we had been talking to RVP for months (as he himself has said). Vieira went to watch Hazard months before we lost out to Chelsea. These people CHOSE to go elsewhere as Cavani may do, as Sanchez did.

I posted on here last year that we were after Isco (Mancini went to see him play, remember ?) I also posted that a Sky reporter had said, we were close to signing him. That was before Tricky even arrived.

We were after Jovetic, as a kid, when Pearce was manager & yet Mancini was still looking at him last season. Jovetic was scouted before Marwood or even Hughes' scouts arrived.

That's how it has always worked. One problem last season was that we allowed all the main blokes who had been dealing with that stuff to leave before the window opened; a clear indication that Khaldoon didn't fancy spending huge money, but completely & repeatedly ignored on here.

Yes of course we were talking to Navas AND Cavani, & everyone else we may sign.

[Hazy2]

If we get Cavani, I hope this trigers Jose out for January in big tantrum.

[Ted Hughes]

If we get Cavani, I hope this trigers Jose out for January in big tantrum.

I'm not sure Jose has got it in him to walk out on Chelsea.

I think Real Madrid has given him a dose of reality & the realisation that he is human, & likes doughnuts.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Not to judge the fella out, but maybe some spanish blues around here can respond to this question:

Why Real or Barcelona didn"t bought him or showed interest in him? I"ve watched him since Sevilla was stellar with Dani Alves and Kanoute, Navas was good and i have never heard anything about him, ever. No offers, nothing.

What is wrong with him?

Navas said: "We've been talking with Manchester City for four months. The decision is taken.

"There had been rumours (about Real Madrid), but Manchester City were in from the start and I had decided some time ago. It's a good project and it was the moment to make the step.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... eal-Madrid

Ping Ted Hughes.

Like I said, manager has little say in identnifying targets and weaknesses within squad. This whole Navas project was on when Mancini was still manager. Mancini who never used wingers. They just kept with their despite new manager who isn't even signed yet.

What makes this Navas signing so interesting is that from what I've seen of him over the years he has little versatility. He is a specialist winger who hugs the touchline and lives off his pace and trickery. Now I love good wing player myself but spending this sort of money for wideman ties the hands of the new manager somewhat as far as tactics go. This is pretty much why Pellegrini himself felt he failed with Real.

Half the signings Mancini made were beng negotiated when Hughes was manager.

There is no other option. If you don't talk to players all the time they don't sign. The bullshit that Mancini was coming out with regarding transfers, that we didn't work on them til the very end, was exactly that; bullshit & blatant lies. Garcia himself said we had contacted him months earlier. we had been talking to RVP for months (as he himself has said). Vieira went to watch Hazard months before we lost out to Chelsea. These people CHOSE to go elsewhere as Cavani may do, as Sanchez did.

I posted on here last year that we were after Isco (Mancini went to see him play, remember ?) I also posted that a Sky reporter had said, we were close to signing him. That was before Tricky even arrived.

We were after Jovetic, as a kid, when Pearce was manager & yet Mancini was still looking at him last season. Jovetic was scouted before Marwood or even Hughes' scouts arrived.

That's how it has always worked. One problem last season was that we allowed all the main blokes who had been dealing with that stuff to leave before the window opened; a clear indication that Khaldoon didn't fancy spending huge money, but completely & repeatedly ignored on here.

Yes of course we were talking to Navas AND Cavani, & everyone else we may sign.

I agree with you about scouting but what are these "blatant lies" that Mancini told?

[DoomMerchant]

I think you are missing the point here by good country mile.

The point? You made it sound like we overspent wildly for Martin Petrov and couldn't buy more players and the manager was going to be tactically boxed in as a result.

All of which couldnt be further from the truth. We bought a world class winger who plays oftenly for the national team of a generation in Spain and contributes.

It's a worthwhile signing.

[Original Dub]

I think you are missing the point here by good country mile.

The point? You made it sound like we overspent wildly for Martin Petrov and couldn't buy more players and the manager was going to be tactically boxed in as a result.

All of which couldnt be further from the truth. We bought a world class winger who plays oftenly for the national team of a generation in Spain and contributes.

It's a worthwhile signing.

Oftenly.

Interesting.

Cheers

[Ted Hughes]

Not to judge the fella out, but maybe some spanish blues around here can respond to this question:

Why Real or Barcelona didn"t bought him or showed interest in him? I"ve watched him since Sevilla was stellar with Dani Alves and Kanoute, Navas was good and i have never heard anything about him, ever. No offers, nothing.

What is wrong with him?

Navas said: "We've been talking with Manchester City for four months. The decision is taken.

"There had been rumours (about Real Madrid), but Manchester City were in from the start and I had decided some time ago. It's a good project and it was the moment to make the step.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... eal-Madrid

Ping Ted Hughes.

Like I said, manager has little say in identnifying targets and weaknesses within squad. This whole Navas project was on when Mancini was still manager. Mancini who never used wingers. They just kept with their despite new manager who isn't even signed yet.

What makes this Navas signing so interesting is that from what I've seen of him over the years he has little versatility. He is a specialist winger who hugs the touchline and lives off his pace and trickery. Now I love good wing player myself but spending this sort of money for wideman ties the hands of the new manager somewhat as far as tactics go. This is pretty much why Pellegrini himself felt he failed with Real.

Half the signings Mancini made were beng negotiated when Hughes was manager.

There is no other option. If you don't talk to players all the time they don't sign. The bullshit that Mancini was coming out with regarding transfers, that we didn't work on them til the very end, was exactly that; bullshit & blatant lies. Garcia himself said we had contacted him months earlier. we had been talking to RVP for months (as he himself has said). Vieira went to watch Hazard months before we lost out to Chelsea. These people CHOSE to go elsewhere as Cavani may do, as Sanchez did.

I posted on here last year that we were after Isco (Mancini went to see him play, remember ?) I also posted that a Sky reporter had said, we were close to signing him. That was before Tricky even arrived.

We were after Jovetic, as a kid, when Pearce was manager & yet Mancini was still looking at him last season. Jovetic was scouted before Marwood or even Hughes' scouts arrived.

That's how it has always worked. One problem last season was that we allowed all the main blokes who had been dealing with that stuff to leave before the window opened; a clear indication that Khaldoon didn't fancy spending huge money, but completely & repeatedly ignored on here.

Yes of course we were talking to Navas AND Cavani, & everyone else we may sign.

I agree with you about scouting but what are these "blatant lies" that Mancini told?

That we only started working on the transfers at the last minute rather than doing it earlier. It is a complete lie & has been exposed as so.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

I don't recall him saying that Ted.

These are the quotes from him when he scapegoated Marwood:

‘I am not the sporting director, it is his [Marwood’s] job, not my job,’ said Mancini. ‘They ask me about the market but I don’t know anything, it is better they talk to him.’
On his relationship with Marwood, he added: ‘We can do a good job if everyone works in a good way.’

Are there other quotes I've missed?

[Ted Hughes]

I don't recall him saying that Ted.

These are the quotes from him when he scapegoated Marwood:

‘I am not the sporting director, it is his [Marwood’s] job, not my job,’ said Mancini. ‘They ask me about the market but I don’t know anything, it is better they talk to him.’
On his relationship with Marwood, he added: ‘We can do a good job if everyone works in a good way.’

Are there other quotes I've missed?

Loads but I'm not interested in talking about it tbh. .

I only mentioned it as part of a general misconception as to how we operate re transfers, which seems to have all come about during Mancini's term. The untrue idea that he signed some players but had others forced upon him, (which he himself has said isn't true, as has Soriano) & that we suddenly start talking to players in the last days of the transfer window etc, when we have ALWAYS worked months, even years in advance on targets. I was replying to this aspect rather than wanting to get into more Mancini related bollocks.

We talk to players all the time, then give the manager options for the positions he seeks to fill. The idea of managers scouting & watching players themselves in detail whilst trying to win 4 competitions, is absolutely fucking ridiculous. We employ a shitload of people to do that.

[Tokyo Blue]

I don't recall him saying that Ted.

These are the quotes from him when he scapegoated Marwood:

‘I am not the sporting director, it is his [Marwood’s] job, not my job,’ said Mancini. ‘They ask me about the market but I don’t know anything, it is better they talk to him.’
On his relationship with Marwood, he added: ‘We can do a good job if everyone works in a good way.’

Are there other quotes I've missed?

Loads but I'm not interested in talking about it tbh.

Well, you brought it up.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I don't recall him saying that Ted.

These are the quotes from him when he scapegoated Marwood:

‘I am not the sporting director, it is his [Marwood’s] job, not my job,’ said Mancini. ‘They ask me about the market but I don’t know anything, it is better they talk to him.’
On his relationship with Marwood, he added: ‘We can do a good job if everyone works in a good way.’

Are there other quotes I've missed?

Loads but I'm not interested in talking about it tbh. .

I only mentioned it as part of a general misconception as to how we operate re transfers, which seems to have all come about during Mancini's term. The untrue idea that he signed some players but had others forced upon him, (which he himself has said isn't true, as has Soriano) & that we suddenly start talking to players in the last days of the transfer window etc, when we have ALWAYS worked months, even years in advance on targets. I was replying to this aspect rather than wanting to get into more Mancini related bollocks.

We talk to players all the time, then give the manager options for the positions he seeks to fill. The idea of managers scouting & watching players themselves in detail whilst trying to win 4 competitions, is absolutely fucking ridiculous. We employ a shitload of people to do that.

I don't think that in current system we give manager much say at all. Mancini clearly still had little say but I doubt Pellegrini has any.

[Beefymcfc]

When did this happen?

Did we get Isco?

[Mase]

When did this happen?

Did we get Isco?

Yeh mate. On a free as well! Something to do with him not being paid for 3 months.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't recall him saying that Ted.

These are the quotes from him when he scapegoated Marwood:

‘I am not the sporting director, it is his [Marwood’s] job, not my job,’ said Mancini. ‘They ask me about the market but I don’t know anything, it is better they talk to him.’
On his relationship with Marwood, he added: ‘We can do a good job if everyone works in a good way.’

Are there other quotes I've missed?

Loads but I'm not interested in talking about it tbh. .

I only mentioned it as part of a general misconception as to how we operate re transfers, which seems to have all come about during Mancini's term. The untrue idea that he signed some players but had others forced upon him, (which he himself has said isn't true, as has Soriano) & that we suddenly start talking to players in the last days of the transfer window etc, when we have ALWAYS worked months, even years in advance on targets. I was replying to this aspect rather than wanting to get into more Mancini related bollocks.

We talk to players all the time, then give the manager options for the positions he seeks to fill. The idea of managers scouting & watching players themselves in detail whilst trying to win 4 competitions, is absolutely fucking ridiculous. We employ a shitload of people to do that.

I don't think that in current system we give manager much say at all. Mancini clearly still had little say but I doubt Pellegrini has any.

Well we've had people picking and chosing which players they decide Mancini chose (usually based on how well they played) for 3 years, & even when Mancini has specifically told everyone that he wanted them, and why, people have just ignored it & blamed Marwood for signing any that didn't succeed, so if people are now going to ignore every single report which says they have been consulting with Pellegrini on transfers, it will not be a surprise.

If it goes to form, the Pelickers will claim Pellegrini wanted the ones who played well, but Cheeky picked the ones who struggle, especially any that are English.