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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:07 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Well we've had people picking and chosing which players they decide Mancini chose (usually based on how well they played) for 3 years, & even when Mancini has specifically told everyone that he wanted them, and why, people have just ignored it & blamed Marwood for signing any that didn't succeed, so if people are now going to ignore every single report which says they have been consulting with Pellegrini on transfers, it will not be a surprise.

If it goes to form, the Pelickers will claim Pellegrini wanted the ones who played well, but Cheeky picked the ones who struggle, especially any that are English.


Bullshit. It's Marwood when it goes pear-shaped. Always and forever, with the Leather.

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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:39 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I don't recall him saying that Ted.

These are the quotes from him when he scapegoated Marwood:

‘I am not the sporting director, it is his [Marwood’s] job, not my job,’ said Mancini. ‘They ask me about the market but I don’t know anything, it is better they talk to him.’
On his relationship with Marwood, he added: ‘We can do a good job if everyone works in a good way.’

Are there other quotes I've missed?


Loads but I'm not interested in talking about it tbh. .

I only mentioned it as part of a general misconception as to how we operate re transfers, which seems to have all come about during Mancini's term. The untrue idea that he signed some players but had others forced upon him, (which he himself has said isn't true, as has Soriano) & that we suddenly start talking to players in the last days of the transfer window etc, when we have ALWAYS worked months, even years in advance on targets. I was replying to this aspect rather than wanting to get into more Mancini related bollocks.

We talk to players all the time, then give the manager options for the positions he seeks to fill. The idea of managers scouting & watching players themselves in detail whilst trying to win 4 competitions, is absolutely fucking ridiculous. We employ a shitload of people to do that.


I don't think that in current system we give manager much say at all. Mancini clearly still had little say but I doubt Pellegrini has any.


Well we've had people picking and chosing which players they decide Mancini chose (usually based on how well they played) for 3 years, & even when Mancini has specifically told everyone that he wanted them, and why, people have just ignored it & blamed Marwood for signing any that didn't succeed, so if people are now going to ignore every single report which says they have been consulting with Pellegrini on transfers, it will not be a surprise.

If it goes to form, the Pelickers will claim Pellegrini wanted the ones who played well, but Cheeky picked the ones who struggle, especially any that are English.


The Mancini lickers are fucking negative and will put a negative slant on anything positive that has been happening lately.

Incredible.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby dazby » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:01 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
The Mancini lickers are fucking negative and will put a negative slant on anything positive that has been happening lately.

Incredible.


Name names. Who are you on about?
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:37 pm

dazby wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
The Mancini lickers are fucking negative and will put a negative slant on anything positive that has been happening lately.

Incredible.


Name names. Who are you on about?


I suppose Slimboy Fat means me here. Don't understand what the negative bit is though. We have Director of Football system and Spaniards are in charge of transfers. Nothing positive or negative about it. People just need to recognize it.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Risby » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:39 pm

I think all this Mancini stuff is going over the top now.

The bloke took our players to the summit of the PL and won us the FA cup which were two brilliant and unforgettable moments in my life and in the history of our club.

BUT

He has now gone. Whether you agree with it or not, that is the fact.
Pellegrini is now in and needs our full support. I happen to think he will do a good job and with the players coming in, it's another exciting time for us.

I have always supported City and some managers i have taken to a lot easier than others, but they come and go. The stagnant thing is the club I support.

Enjoy and remember what Bob did and now give our new guy the full support he should have. It's not his fault he has been brought in to replace Mancini.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby ant london » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:25 pm

I'm sure a new schism shall develop on here soon. We shall all polarise around some selection/tactical nonsense and be at each others' throats anew.

Roll on the nonsense
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:57 pm

ant london wrote:I'm sure a new schism shall develop on here soon. We shall all polarise around some selection/tactical nonsense and be at each others' throats anew.

Roll on the nonsense


Mancini lickers will be responsible for said nonsence.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:32 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
dazby wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
The Mancini lickers are fucking negative and will put a negative slant on anything positive that has been happening lately.

Incredible.


Name names. Who are you on about?


I suppose Slimboy Fat means me here. Don't understand what the negative bit is though. We have Director of Football system and Spaniards are in charge of transfers. Nothing positive or negative about it. People just need to recognize it.


Of course he'll have some say. Do you really believe players will be forced on him? His input will be taken into account on the transfer strategy meetings that take place.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:33 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
ant london wrote:I'm sure a new schism shall develop on here soon. We shall all polarise around some selection/tactical nonsense and be at each others' throats anew.

Roll on the nonsense


Mancini lickers will be responsible for said nonsence.


Why not debate the issue rather than having a pop at the poster(s)?
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:54 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
ant london wrote:I'm sure a new schism shall develop on here soon. We shall all polarise around some selection/tactical nonsense and be at each others' throats anew.

Roll on the nonsense


Mancini lickers will be responsible for said nonsence.


Why not debate the issue rather than having a pop at the poster(s)?


Your names just gone on my list for future reference.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Spurge » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:04 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
ant london wrote:I'm sure a new schism shall develop on here soon. We shall all polarise around some selection/tactical nonsense and be at each others' throats anew.

Roll on the nonsense


Mancini lickers will be responsible for said nonsence.


Why not debate the issue rather than having a pop at the poster(s)?


Your names just gone on my list for future reference.


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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:09 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
ant london wrote:I'm sure a new schism shall develop on here soon. We shall all polarise around some selection/tactical nonsense and be at each others' throats anew.

Roll on the nonsense


Mancini lickers will be responsible for said nonsence.


Why not debate the issue rather than having a pop at the poster(s)?


Your names just gone on my list for future reference.


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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:29 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
dazby wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
The Mancini lickers are fucking negative and will put a negative slant on anything positive that has been happening lately.

Incredible.


Name names. Who are you on about?


I suppose Slimboy Fat means me here. Don't understand what the negative bit is though. We have Director of Football system and Spaniards are in charge of transfers. Nothing positive or negative about it. People just need to recognize it.


Of course he'll have some say. Do you really believe players will be forced on him? His input will be taken into account on the transfer strategy meetings that take place.


You mean the system they have in place Madrid and Barcelona? I wonder what would make me think that. Holistic approach and all that.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:44 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
dazby wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
The Mancini lickers are fucking negative and will put a negative slant on anything positive that has been happening lately.

Incredible.


Name names. Who are you on about?


I suppose Slimboy Fat means me here. Don't understand what the negative bit is though. We have Director of Football system and Spaniards are in charge of transfers. Nothing positive or negative about it. People just need to recognize it.


Of course he'll have some say. Do you really believe players will be forced on him? His input will be taken into account on the transfer strategy meetings that take place.


You mean the system they have in place Madrid and Barcelona? I wonder what would make me think that. Holistic approach and all that.


No the system we have at City, where they have been consulting with the manager about signings.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:54 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
dazby wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
The Mancini lickers are fucking negative and will put a negative slant on anything positive that has been happening lately.

Incredible.


Name names. Who are you on about?


I suppose Slimboy Fat means me here. Don't understand what the negative bit is though. We have Director of Football system and Spaniards are in charge of transfers. Nothing positive or negative about it. People just need to recognize it.


I do mean you , fucking negative slant on every fuckign word you write down.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:50 pm

I'm looking forward to next season, as always.

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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:42 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
dazby wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
The Mancini lickers are fucking negative and will put a negative slant on anything positive that has been happening lately.

Incredible.


Name names. Who are you on about?


I suppose Slimboy Fat means me here. Don't understand what the negative bit is though. We have Director of Football system and Spaniards are in charge of transfers. Nothing positive or negative about it. People just need to recognize it.


I do mean you , fucking negative slant on every fuckign word you write down.


Nothing negative about right people carrying right responsibilities. I bet you my bottom peseta that IF Navas isn't used in his natural position and sucks you will blame El Gringo rather than guys who actually brought him to club.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:42 am

Yet another of the many briefings by club insiders to the press on this subject, over the past month, in practically every piece on the subject:

City are adamant that Pellegrini has been brought in to manage the club rather than act as a continental-style head coach – and that the senior team will not be run by committee.

An Etihad insider said: “Manuel will make the final decision on transfer policy – both in terms of players bought and sold by the club.

“It is clear that the days when a manager ­controlled every single aspect of a football club are at an end and, in that respect, ­Pellegrini will concentrate his efforts on the first team.

“But he will also have a big influence on what happens at all levels of the club – including things like the Academy and the make-up of the medical staff.

“And, while he certainly will be working hand in glove with the director of football, he has been ­appointed as a manager rather than a head coach.

“Manuel isn’t a puppet.

“He will have the final say on every single decision that is ­related to the first team.”

And it's strange how Barry, Lescott, Tevez etc have all been waiting to talk to a bloke who has no say in whether they stay or not.
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:49 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Yet another of the many briefings by club insiders to the press on this subject, over the past month, in practically every piece on the subject:

City are adamant that Pellegrini has been brought in to manage the club rather than act as a continental-style head coach – and that the senior team will not be run by committee.

An Etihad insider said: “Manuel will make the final decision on transfer policy – both in terms of players bought and sold by the club.

“It is clear that the days when a manager ­controlled every single aspect of a football club are at an end and, in that respect, ­Pellegrini will concentrate his efforts on the first team.

“But he will also have a big influence on what happens at all levels of the club – including things like the Academy and the make-up of the medical staff.

“And, while he certainly will be working hand in glove with the director of football, he has been ­appointed as a manager rather than a head coach.

“Manuel isn’t a puppet.

“He will have the final say on every single decision that is ­related to the first team.”

And it's strange how Barry, Lescott, Tevez etc have all been waiting to talk to a bloke who has no say in whether they stay or not.


Where is this from? And what does "final decision" mean? And who is this supposed "club insider"? And why were they signing Navas and co when Pellegrini wasn't appointed?
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Re: Jesus Navas SIGNED!

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:32 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Yet another of the many briefings by club insiders to the press on this subject, over the past month, in practically every piece on the subject:

City are adamant that Pellegrini has been brought in to manage the club rather than act as a continental-style head coach – and that the senior team will not be run by committee.

An Etihad insider said: “Manuel will make the final decision on transfer policy – both in terms of players bought and sold by the club.

“It is clear that the days when a manager ­controlled every single aspect of a football club are at an end and, in that respect, ­Pellegrini will concentrate his efforts on the first team.

“But he will also have a big influence on what happens at all levels of the club – including things like the Academy and the make-up of the medical staff.

“And, while he certainly will be working hand in glove with the director of football, he has been ­appointed as a manager rather than a head coach.

“Manuel isn’t a puppet.

“He will have the final say on every single decision that is ­related to the first team.”

And it's strange how Barry, Lescott, Tevez etc have all been waiting to talk to a bloke who has no say in whether they stay or not.


Where is this from? And what does "final decision" mean? And who is this supposed "club insider"? And why were they signing Navas and co when Pellegrini wasn't appointed?


This is from Simon Mullock at the Mirror, a local Manchester reporter (rumoured to be a City fan) who,although as full of shit as all of them, gets chucked the occasional fish by City. But pretty much every reporter has been told the same though, & tbf, most have printed it, even before Pellegrini's appointment. They have all spelled out the fact that Pellegrini was in consultation with the brass, re signings, clearly briefed by the club.

As for Navas signing months ago, he didn't, he signed about a week ago. Talks were ongoing with Navas for a long time, just as they were with Javi Garcia last summer, (he thought all summer he was coming to City) but we know City were talking to DeRossi & Martinez & would have signed them before Garcia had it been possible. The fact we wer talking to Garcia would have meant nothing if a DeRossi or Martinez deal could have been done.

Likewise, had we been unfortunate enough to win the race for Alexis Sanchez, we would probably not have signed Aguero. No chance did Marwood suddenly spring the Aguero signing from nowhere though, he will have had a team working on him for a year previous.

We wil be occasionally talking to young players now, who may only be offered to the next manager after Pellegrini.

But they will be 'offered' not forced.
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