pellegrini

[dazby]

Nasri should not only be dropped but also sold.

I disagree. I think we've had two seasons of growing pains with the lesbian. This season with more competition for his place he'll really come out of the closet.

I'm going to stick my neck out and call Samir as the 13/14 player of the season.

(I hope this goes better than my Maicon scoring an important goal prediction. I maintain that if he'd played in the FA Cup final he'd have scored. Oh well.)

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I disagree. I think we've had two seasons of growing pains with the lesbian. This season with more competition for his place he'll really come out of the closet.

I'm going to stick my neck out and call Samir as the 13/14 player of the season.

(I hope this goes better than my Maicon scoring an important goal prediction. I maintain that if he'd played in the FA Cup final he'd have scored. Oh well.)

If a new manager can't bring the best out of him, he needs shipping.

Sadly he won't be worth much by then.

[Ted Hughes]

I disagree. I think we've had two seasons of growing pains with the lesbian. This season with more competition for his place he'll really come out of the closet.

I'm going to stick my neck out and call Samir as the 13/14 player of the season.

(I hope this goes better than my Maicon scoring an important goal prediction. I maintain that if he'd played in the FA Cup final he'd have scored. Oh well.)

If a new manager can't bring the best out of him, he needs shipping.

Sadly he won't be worth much by then.

I don't trust Nasri at all, so I wouldn't shed any tears if Pellegrini got rid of him. I do however think that he could be miles better than he has shown for us or on the whole for Arsenal & France. If the Count thinks he can get that out of him, then I'm happy enough to let him try PROVIDED we do sign Isco or someone of a similar style. I don't want to entrust our creativity to just Nasri & Silva after their limp, uninspired performances last season.

Although tbf I think people will be surprised when the find out what Fernandinho actually does.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I don't trust Nasri at all, so I wouldn't shed any tears if Pellegrini got rid of him. I do however think that he could be miles better than he has shown for us or on the whole for Arsenal & France. If the Count thinks he can get that out of him, then I'm happy enough to let him try PROVIDED we do sign Isco or someone of a similar style. I don't want to entrust our creativity to just Nasri & Silva after their limp, uninspired performances last season.

Although tbf I think people will be surprised when the find out what Fernandinho actually does.

Sure hope so.

I'm envisioning a tougher Elano from what I'm reading here.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't trust Nasri at all, so I wouldn't shed any tears if Pellegrini got rid of him. I do however think that he could be miles better than he has shown for us or on the whole for Arsenal & France. If the Count thinks he can get that out of him, then I'm happy enough to let him try PROVIDED we do sign Isco or someone of a similar style. I don't want to entrust our creativity to just Nasri & Silva after their limp, uninspired performances last season.

Although tbf I think people will be surprised when the find out what Fernandinho actually does.

Sure hope so.

I'm envisioning a tougher Elano from what I'm reading here.

Fernandinho ?

Just a really absolutely top quality allround midfield player imo. He can sit deep & pass the ball around, then get forward & create, but to me, he could play anywhere in the midfield. What Milner would be if he'd been born in Brazil imo.

I still think Gareth Barry is better than him at doing the specific 'mopping up' job though.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Fernandinho ?

Just a really absolutely top quality allround midfield player imo. He can sit deep & pass the ball around, then get forward & create, but to me, he could play anywhere in the midfield. What Milner would be if he'd been born in Brazil imo.

I still think Gareth Barry is better than him at doing the specific 'mopping up' job though.

I am really looking forward to seeing him actually. A fascinating transfer. I guess with all the superstars we've had in, the odd player that isn't a household name excites on a different level.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I don't trust Nasri at all, so I wouldn't shed any tears if Pellegrini got rid of him. I do however think that he could be miles better than he has shown for us or on the whole for Arsenal & France. If the Count thinks he can get that out of him, then I'm happy enough to let him try PROVIDED we do sign Isco or someone of a similar style. I don't want to entrust our creativity to just Nasri & Silva after their limp, uninspired performances last season.

Although tbf I think people will be surprised when the find out what Fernandinho actually does.

Sure hope so.

I'm envisioning a tougher Elano from what I'm reading here.

Fernandinho ?

Just a really absolutely top quality allround midfield player imo. He can sit deep & pass the ball around, then get forward & create, but to me, he could play anywhere in the midfield. What Milner would be if he'd been born in Brazil imo.

I still think Gareth Barry is better than him at doing the specific 'mopping up' job though.

Barry is history mate,no more room at the inn for him.He was a great buy for us but now its time for him to go,too many fuckups from him and his pace is non existent , not that it was ever there to begin with.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't trust Nasri at all, so I wouldn't shed any tears if Pellegrini got rid of him. I do however think that he could be miles better than he has shown for us or on the whole for Arsenal & France. If the Count thinks he can get that out of him, then I'm happy enough to let him try PROVIDED we do sign Isco or someone of a similar style. I don't want to entrust our creativity to just Nasri & Silva after their limp, uninspired performances last season.

Although tbf I think people will be surprised when the find out what Fernandinho actually does.

Sure hope so.

I'm envisioning a tougher Elano from what I'm reading here.

Fernandinho ?

Just a really absolutely top quality allround midfield player imo. He can sit deep & pass the ball around, then get forward & create, but to me, he could play anywhere in the midfield. What Milner would be if he'd been born in Brazil imo.

I still think Gareth Barry is better than him at doing the specific 'mopping up' job though.

Barry is history mate,no more room at the inn for him.He was a great buy for us but now its time for him to go,too many fuckups from him and his pace is non existent , not that it was ever there to begin with.

Well imo Barry made less fuckups than everyone else last season & as you say, he has never had any pace anyway. I don't believe any of the other players, including Fernandinho, can do the job Barry does as well as he does it, but I think he needs looking after much better than Mancini did, in order to perform upto the required standard. Mancini overplayed him, even when not fully fit, & his worst performances were mainly due to fatigue or being asked to get around the pitch & cover too much ground, which is not his forte.

[everyonehatesus]

well ive not posted for a while and even then I didnt post much.
Ive been sitting back and trying find out what I can about our new boss, and even now im still not that clear as to what to expect from this coming season. We look to have got a couple of interesting new players yet nothing out of this world and mind blowing. We are still yet to see some big movements in what better players decide/told to leave once he gets to work with the team, this will have a big impact of how things will turn out and also give us a better idea of how the new boss will try to take the team forward.
At least there has been major changes with the other top 2 teams, giving us a good chance to keep up while he gets to grips with the prem and then who knows. A fantastic help is the keeping of Kid, he should help no end and I actualy think its a very good decision.
Im looking forward to the new season of course but I cant say that im excited like I was at the start of last year, well that may not be a bad thing looking at how it turned out.

[john68]

well ive not posted for a while and even then I didnt post much.
Ive been sitting back and trying find out what I can about our new boss, and even now im still not that clear as to what to expect from this coming season. We look to have got a couple of interesting new players yet nothing out of this world and mind blowing. We are still yet to see some big movements in what better players decide/told to leave once he gets to work with the team, this will have a big impact of how things will turn out and also give us a better idea of how the new boss will try to take the team forward.
At least there has been major changes with the other top 2 teams, giving us a good chance to keep up while he gets to grips with the prem and then who knows. A fantastic help is the keeping of Kid, he should help no end and I actualy think its a very good decision.
Im looking forward to the new season of course but I cant say that im excited like I was at the start of last year, well that may not be a bad thing looking at how it turned out.

It's funny how people view the same situation from a different angle and then draw different conclusions Mate. Unlike you, I was very underwhelmed at our performance in the transfer window last summer and while our two nearest rivals strengthened their squads that had an immediacy of improvement for them, our buys didn't. We also lost de Jong and I considered us to be a weaker squad. My expectation, unlike others was roughly around what we eventually got.

Though you are underwhelmed this summer, can I remind you that the mind blowing players who are out of this world are not always the ones that are what you need. Teams, not players win games and trophies and often it is those lesser, little cog, that do the jobs we need and make the difference.

Unlike last summer, this summer I am far more excited about our chances and fully expect us to regain our title.

[Dameerto]

Fernandinho ?

Just a really absolutely top quality allround midfield player imo. He can sit deep & pass the ball around, then get forward & create, but to me, he could play anywhere in the midfield. What Milner would be if he'd been born in Brazil imo.

I still think Gareth Barry is better than him at doing the specific 'mopping up' job though.

I am really looking forward to seeing him actually. A fascinating transfer. I guess with all the superstars we've had in, the odd player that isn't a household name excites on a different level.

He's a household name in waiting. Watching Brazil's opening game yesterday it's criminal he isn't playing.

[MilnersJaw]

I don't trust Nasri at all, so I wouldn't shed any tears if Pellegrini got rid of him. I do however think that he could be miles better than he has shown for us or on the whole for Arsenal & France. If the Count thinks he can get that out of him, then I'm happy enough to let him try PROVIDED we do sign Isco or someone of a similar style. I don't want to entrust our creativity to just Nasri & Silva after their limp, uninspired performances last season.

Although tbf I think people will be surprised when the find out what Fernandinho actually does.

Sure hope so.

I'm envisioning a tougher Elano from what I'm reading here.

Fernandinho ?

Just a really absolutely top quality allround midfield player imo. He can sit deep & pass the ball around, then get forward & create, but to me, he could play anywhere in the midfield. What Milner would be if he'd been born in Brazil imo.

I still think Gareth Barry is better than him at doing the specific 'mopping up' job though.

we need a CEO, not a minimum wage cleaner.

[Saul Goodman]

well ive not posted for a while and even then I didnt post much.
Ive been sitting back and trying find out what I can about our new boss, and even now im still not that clear as to what to expect from this coming season. We look to have got a couple of interesting new players yet nothing out of this world and mind blowing. We are still yet to see some big movements in what better players decide/told to leave once he gets to work with the team, this will have a big impact of how things will turn out and also give us a better idea of how the new boss will try to take the team forward.
At least there has been major changes with the other top 2 teams, giving us a good chance to keep up while he gets to grips with the prem and then who knows. A fantastic help is the keeping of Kid, he should help no end and I actualy think its a very good decision.
Im looking forward to the new season of course but I cant say that im excited like I was at the start of last year, well that may not be a bad thing looking at how it turned out.

I dont see very many "out of this world" players moving this summer. of course, that comes down to who you deem as such. Bale and Cavani? If so, those are the only 2 I see as having the slightest chance at moving. And I dont really think Bale will leave. Can't see Ronaldo moving to PSG or United either.

If we sign up Isco along with Navas and Fernandinho while only losing Barry and/or Lescott (and Kolo and Bridge and RSC) I would deem this to be a very successful window. But it all comes down to personal opinion and how you classify certain players.

[everyonehatesus]

well ive not posted for a while and even then I didnt post much.
Ive been sitting back and trying find out what I can about our new boss, and even now im still not that clear as to what to expect from this coming season. We look to have got a couple of interesting new players yet nothing out of this world and mind blowing. We are still yet to see some big movements in what better players decide/told to leave once he gets to work with the team, this will have a big impact of how things will turn out and also give us a better idea of how the new boss will try to take the team forward.
At least there has been major changes with the other top 2 teams, giving us a good chance to keep up while he gets to grips with the prem and then who knows. A fantastic help is the keeping of Kid, he should help no end and I actualy think its a very good decision.
Im looking forward to the new season of course but I cant say that im excited like I was at the start of last year, well that may not be a bad thing looking at how it turned out.

It's funny how people view the same situation from a different angle and then draw different conclusions Mate. Unlike you, I was very underwhelmed at our performance in the transfer window last summer and while our two nearest rivals strengthened their squads that had an immediacy of improvement for them, our buys didn't. We also lost de Jong and I considered us to be a weaker squad. My expectation, unlike others was roughly around what we eventually got.

Though you are underwhelmed this summer, can I remind you that the mind blowing players who are out of this world are not always the ones that are what you need. Teams, not players win games and trophies and often it is those lesser, little cog, that do the jobs we need and make the difference.

Unlike last summer, this summer I am far more excited about our chances and fully expect us to regain our title.

Your not wrong there, I love the thought of free flowing football and a fast passing game. BUT I dont think that any team in the prem can really adopt that style all of the time, this is why I still feel we lack a player or two as you say like De Jong. That for me was a massive mistake in letting him go, while we do have other players that will try to hold the line and break play down I just dont feel that they do it as well as he did and would like to see someone come in so we can call upon them when needed.
Teams will park the buss against us even more this season after seeing how well others did against us using this method. Maybe Pellegrini will have a better plan B and help get through this problem, its going to be tough at times watching city this season I feel just like it used to be. If he can can keep up with the front of the pack (I cant see him being there) upto christmas then who knows, he has walked into a very good team with players that know whats now needed and I hope Tevez will be here and a part of it. He could be the one pulling the strings for I feel, he always puts a shift in and becomes a problem all on his own that makes space for players like silva and Kun to make something happen. Speaking of Silva its going to be interesting to see how he comes out in all this, the free flowing play should be to his stregnths but only if he gets the help and back up from those around him making that space with runs and work rate.
As I say I just dont know what to expect and we are still typical city, we just win a bit more these days lol.

[Original Dub]

Well imo Barry made less fuckups than everyone else last season & as you say, he has never had any pace anyway. I don't believe any of the other players, including Fernandinho, can do the job Barry does as well as he does it, but I think he needs looking after much better than Mancini did, in order to perform upto the required standard. Mancini overplayed him, even when not fully fit, & his worst performances were mainly due to fatigue or being asked to get around the pitch & cover too much ground, which is not his forte.

I agree completely.

When he was overplayed or played when over exposed due to lack of effort around him, he had a very poor game.

But when deployed properly he is amazing at dictating the pace of the game and breaking play up.

I just watched this season's derby at the swamp again today. For anyone who doesn't know what barry does, have a look at that match again.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Well imo Barry made less fuckups than everyone else last season & as you say, he has never had any pace anyway. I don't believe any of the other players, including Fernandinho, can do the job Barry does as well as he does it, but I think he needs looking after much better than Mancini did, in order to perform upto the required standard. Mancini overplayed him, even when not fully fit, & his worst performances were mainly due to fatigue or being asked to get around the pitch & cover too much ground, which is not his forte.

I agree completely.

When he was overplayed or played when over exposed due to lack of effort around him, he had a very poor game.

But when deployed properly he is amazing at dictating the pace of the game and breaking play up.

I just watched this season's derby at the swamp again today. For anyone who doesn't know what barry does, have a look at that match again.

The younger players that didnt perform on a consistent basis last season have time to be managed properly this time around to bring that consistency.

Barry is too fucking old now and needs to go ,also it looks like we have midfield covered 10 fold.

[Original Dub]

The younger players that didnt perform on a consistent basis last season have time to be managed properly this time around to bring that consistency.

Barry is too fucking old now and needs to go ,also it looks like we have midfield covered 10 fold.

I don't think he will be the first name on the team sheet as he was for the last few seasons.

That doesn't mean he has to leave mate.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The younger players that didnt perform on a consistent basis last season have time to be managed properly this time around to bring that consistency.

Barry is too fucking old now and needs to go ,also it looks like we have midfield covered 10 fold.

I don't think he will be the first name on the team sheet as he was for the last few seasons.

That doesn't mean he has to leave mate.

The cunts on 90 k a week , he does have to go mate as we will have more cover than we need , theres no room for another old midfielders huge salary.

[Ted Hughes]

Well imo Barry made less fuckups than everyone else last season & as you say, he has never had any pace anyway. I don't believe any of the other players, including Fernandinho, can do the job Barry does as well as he does it, but I think he needs looking after much better than Mancini did, in order to perform upto the required standard. Mancini overplayed him, even when not fully fit, & his worst performances were mainly due to fatigue or being asked to get around the pitch & cover too much ground, which is not his forte.

I agree completely.

When he was overplayed or played when over exposed due to lack of effort around him, he had a very poor game.

But when deployed properly he is amazing at dictating the pace of the game and breaking play up.

I just watched this season's derby at the swamp again today. For anyone who doesn't know what barry does, have a look at that match again.

The younger players that didnt perform on a consistent basis last season have time to be managed properly this time around to bring that consistency.

Barry is too fucking old now and needs to go ,also it looks like we have midfield covered 10 fold.

I think he is the only City midfield player who can read the game, & like Lescott, if we let him go without an adequate replacement, we will suddenly discover what an enormous, stinking, shitstorm of a mistake we have dropped, & be completely unable to do anything about it.

Imo, with our current squad, the only way to adequately replace Barry, is to A) never give the ball away & score shitloads of goals or B) play 3 good defensive players in midfield rather than one or two.

I expect Pellegrini to either A) give Barry an extension, B) get us playing instantly like Barca, so we don't need him, or C) get the sack.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I disagree. I think we've had two seasons of growing pains with the lesbian. This season with more competition for his place he'll really come out of the closet.

I'm going to stick my neck out and call Samir as the 13/14 player of the season.

(I hope this goes better than my Maicon scoring an important goal prediction. I maintain that if he'd played in the FA Cup final he'd have scored. Oh well.)

If a new manager can't bring the best out of him, he needs shipping.

Sadly he won't be worth much by then.

I don't trust Nasri at all, so I wouldn't shed any tears if Pellegrini got rid of him. I do however think that he could be miles better than he has shown for us or on the whole for Arsenal & France. If the Count thinks he can get that out of him, then I'm happy enough to let him try PROVIDED we do sign Isco or someone of a similar style. I don't want to entrust our creativity to just Nasri & Silva after their limp, uninspired performances last season.

Although tbf I think people will be surprised when the find out what Fernandinho actually does.

Oh yeah, if 'grini wants to give him another crack I'm all for it but one of the biggest mistakes we made last season was to expect so much from Nasri mainly because we failed to get Hazard. We really can't afford to make that mistake again.

For me Nasri seems like yet another wonder kid who never quite fullfilled his potential. It's just so frustrating because you see the massive potential but he seems to lack the hunger. He concentrates on looking good more than being efficient. His constant efforts to dribble without actually moving anywhere makes me pull my hair out. Someone should say to him "look Samir, that's their goal over there... keep your head up and always try to find shortest route there".