Isco

[Ted Hughes]

Marcia the Spanish newspaper have an article on their web page under 'real madrid' section which states 'Don't miss the best moves and goals by Real Madrid's latest signing' a direct reference to Isco

http://www.marca.com/2013/06/22/en/foot ... 31708.html

If this is bull shit then it's more than just poor journalism as it's not factual. Indeed if as it appears, as of now nothing is official, then it's inappropriate to publish this.

They would hardly be that stupid just to make something up like that.

Yes they would.

They have previous when Real are after a big player. All part of the dirty tricks/bullshit.

You can't tell anything either way with them or AS. The only time you will know is when Real actually announce it, or City do.

The one thing that worries me is not long ago Marca were saying Isco would'nt get game time at Madrid as there were at least 3 players already on Madrid's books that play in Isco's position.Now they claim he is their player very worrying if you ask me.

Real were perhaps going to step away, then saw Cavani being shite for Uruguay & Isco as potential star material, so changed their priorities. If they are truly serious about playing Isco in their team, I can't see why he wouldn't agree to go there, but if he had already done so when Marca said, City would have given everyone the word even if Madrid didn't announce it & we wouldn't still have this situation.

It will be a bit of a miracle if Isco signs for us imo, but at least one deffo non bullshitter kind of geezer on Bmoon, who definitely does have contacts at the club, has been told we were very close earlier & that Isco wants City.

Of course the 'sources' could be bullshitting him.

[gillie]

Marcia the Spanish newspaper have an article on their web page under 'real madrid' section which states 'Don't miss the best moves and goals by Real Madrid's latest signing' a direct reference to Isco

http://www.marca.com/2013/06/22/en/foot ... 31708.html

If this is bull shit then it's more than just poor journalism as it's not factual. Indeed if as it appears, as of now nothing is official, then it's inappropriate to publish this.

They would hardly be that stupid just to make something up like that.

Yes they would.

They have previous when Real are after a big player. All part of the dirty tricks/bullshit.

You can't tell anything either way with them or AS. The only time you will know is when Real actually announce it, or City do.

The one thing that worries me is not long ago Marca were saying Isco would'nt get game time at Madrid as there were at least 3 players already on Madrid's books that play in Isco's position.Now they claim he is their player very worrying if you ask me.

Real were perhaps going to step away, then saw Cavani being shite for Uruguay & Isco as potential star material, so changed their priorities. If they are truly serious about playing Isco in their team, I can't see why he wouldn't agree to go there, but if he had already done so when Marca said, City would have given everyone the word even if Madrid didn't announce it & we wouldn't still have this situation.

It will be a bit of a miracle if Isco signs for us imo, but at least one deffo non bullshitter kind of geezer on Bmoon, who definitely does have contacts at the club, has been told we were very close earlier & that Isco wants City.

Of course the 'sources' could be bullshitting him.

That's reassuring Ted thank's mate.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Not doing any of what ?

That doesn't make any sense. I say there are rumours we are talking to the various people & Real Madrid have been talking to the various people, you say they haven't, then proceed to describe both clubs talking to the various people.

Wtf are you on about ?

Any scratching, biting or lying.

They are just negotiating like us and the papers are making up the rest.

Thick twat.

Well I didn't mean literally scratching biting or lying, as you know I didn't, you stupid cunt.

They have been using every trick in the book to try & get Isco to sign, including their mates in the media telling everyone he already has done. Imagine every street he went down whilst on holiday, he would get Real Madrid plastics all patting him on the back & welcoming him to their club & him having to deal with it without agreeing to anything or saying the wrong thing.

All this just because City are after him. Not because we have offered ten times as much money, or even 1.5 times as much money. Just a straight shootout between us & Real & us giving them a genuine battle as a viable alternative club, to Real Madrid.

That's fucking quality, irrespective of whether you are too negative or stupid to see it.

That's an excellent post, Ted. Imagine what kind of 'pull' we'd have if we actually turn up in Europe for the next couple of seasons? And I still maintain he's coming to us.

[Blue Blood]

The thing is the most reliable source I find is sky sports news, they have announced nothing what so ever? So surely if they don't no anything it's pure speculation at the moment? Also it's not even on the Real Madrid official website? So surely if it ain't on there they ain't signed him yet, judging by the time I reckon an announcement may be made tomorrow now.

Take that notion and disregard it.

SSN are so behind on transfer movement these days I wouldn't even call them a source.

They just rehash real news (brought to them by outside journos) hours later than the stories have broke.

If you want sources, look to the top journos on twitter and the local journos. People such as, Stuart Brennan, Ian Cheeseman, Guillem Balague, Sid Lowe, Rafeal Hogenstein, Graham Hunter, Christian Machowski, Tancredi Palmeri, Gary Linton, Emanuel Rosu, David Ornstein, David Conn, Phillipe Auclair, Sam Wallace, Rob Dawson, Fillipo Ricci, Mark Douglas, Mirkocorli, Mark Ogden, Graham Bailey...

There are hundreds of legit working journos on twitter, tbh the best policy when I comes to transfer news is follow them all and when multiple stories match up from these sources you know things are going down.

And oh never believe the shit that comes out of the club papers, ala Marca, Gazetta, ect. They get fed info by clubs and publish news which helps said club, rather than generally being factual. Mind games and all that.

Oh and don't jump to conclusions... things can change in a day...

All in all, this method will give you insight into what may happen but not a definite picture of what will happen.... and do it a damn sight quicker than SSN.

[Ted Hughes]

I thought it would take about ten years for us to be in a position to fight with Real Madrid for a player, purely on football matters & not on financial advantage.

And yes, imagine if we do actually win a few games in the Champions League..

[dario2739]

Win or lose... Hmmm - only problem is we keep losing... Van Rapist, Hazard and now possibly Isco! It does show how far we've come to be bidding against Real Madrid, but means nothing if we don't start winning these battles!

[gillie]

The thing is the most reliable source I find is sky sports news, they have announced nothing what so ever? So surely if they don't no anything it's pure speculation at the moment? Also it's not even on the Real Madrid official website? So surely if it ain't on there they ain't signed him yet, judging by the time I reckon an announcement may be made tomorrow now.

Take that notion and disregard it.

SSN are so behind on transfer movement these days I wouldn't even call them a source.

They just rehash real news (brought to them by outside journos) hours later than the stories have broke.

If you want sources, look to the top journos on twitter and the local journos. People such as, Stuart Brennan, Ian Cheeseman, Guillem Balague, Sid Lowe, Rafeal Hogenstein, Graham Hunter, Christian Machowski, Tancredi Palmeri, Gary Linton, Emanuel Rosu, David Ornstein, David Conn, Phillipe Auclair, Sam Wallace, Rob Dawson, Fillipo Ricci, Mark Douglas, Mirkocorli, Mark Ogden, Graham Bailey...

There are hundreds of legit working journos on twitter, tbh the best policy when I comes to transfer news is follow them all and when multiple stories match up from these sources you know things are going down.

And oh never believe the shit that comes out of the club papers, ala Marca, Gazetta, ect. They get fed info by clubs and publish news which helps said club, rather than generally being factual. Mind games and all that.

Oh and don't jump to conclusions... things can change in a day...

All in all, this method will give you insight into what may happen but not a definite picture of what will happen.... and do it a damn sight quicker than SSN.

Think i might start using my twitter account again mate cheers.

[Ted Hughes]

The thing is the most reliable source I find is sky sports news, they have announced nothing what so ever? So surely if they don't no anything it's pure speculation at the moment? Also it's not even on the Real Madrid official website? So surely if it ain't on there they ain't signed him yet, judging by the time I reckon an announcement may be made tomorrow now.

Take that notion and disregard it.

SSN are so behind on transfer movement these days I wouldn't even call them a source.

They just rehash real news (brought to them by outside journos) hours later than the stories have broke.

If you want sources, look to the top journos on twitter and the local journos. People such as, Stuart Brennan, Ian Cheeseman, Guillem Balague, Sid Lowe, Rafeal Hogenstein, Graham Hunter, Christian Machowski, Tancredi Palmeri, Gary Linton, Emanuel Rosu, David Ornstein, David Conn, Phillipe Auclair, Sam Wallace, Rob Dawson, Fillipo Ricci, Mark Douglas, Mirkocorli, Mark Ogden, Graham Bailey...

There are hundreds of legit working journos on twitter, tbh the best policy when I comes to transfer news is follow them all and when multiple stories match up from these sources you know things are going down.

And oh never believe the shit that comes out of the club papers, ala Marca, Gazetta, ect. They get fed info by clubs and publish news which helps said club, rather than generally being factual. Mind games and all that.

Oh and don't jump to conclusions... things can change in a day...

All in all, this method will give you insight into what may happen but not a definite picture of what will happen.... and do it a damn sight quicker than SSN.

Most of them are full of shit as well though & just repeat what the rest of the mediia says, including Marca or 'Sky sources'.

You can't genuinely trust anything except the OS.

Even when rumours are reported in good faith from trusted people, it's often wrong, as things change from one minute to the next.

[Blue Blood]

The thing is the most reliable source I find is sky sports news, they have announced nothing what so ever? So surely if they don't no anything it's pure speculation at the moment? Also it's not even on the Real Madrid official website? So surely if it ain't on there they ain't signed him yet, judging by the time I reckon an announcement may be made tomorrow now.

Take that notion and disregard it.

SSN are so behind on transfer movement these days I wouldn't even call them a source.

They just rehash real news (brought to them by outside journos) hours later than the stories have broke.

If you want sources, look to the top journos on twitter and the local journos. People such as, Stuart Brennan, Ian Cheeseman, Guillem Balague, Sid Lowe, Rafeal Hogenstein, Graham Hunter, Christian Machowski, Tancredi Palmeri, Gary Linton, Emanuel Rosu, David Ornstein, David Conn, Phillipe Auclair, Sam Wallace, Rob Dawson, Fillipo Ricci, Mark Douglas, Mirkocorli, Mark Ogden, Graham Bailey...

There are hundreds of legit working journos on twitter, tbh the best policy when I comes to transfer news is follow them all and when multiple stories match up from these sources you know things are going down.

And oh never believe the shit that comes out of the club papers, ala Marca, Gazetta, ect. They get fed info by clubs and publish news which helps said club, rather than generally being factual. Mind games and all that.

Oh and don't jump to conclusions... things can change in a day...

All in all, this method will give you insight into what may happen but not a definite picture of what will happen.... and do it a damn sight quicker than SSN.

Most of them are full of shit as well though & just repeat what the rest of the mediia says, including Marca or 'Sky sources'.

You can't genuinely trust anything except the OS.

Even when rumours are reported in good faith from trusted people, it's often wrong, as things change from one minute to the next.

Like i said, this method gives informed insight, not guarantees. Only the mcfc.com does that.

Right or wrong these guys are better placed to inform us of the situations than, tolmie and the rest of the ITKs.

If you crave updates, this method is the best it gets.

[Blue Blood]

Win or lose... Hmmm - only problem is we keep losing... Van Rapist, Hazard and now possibly Isco! It does show how far we've come to be bidding against Real Madrid, but means nothing if we don't start winning these battles!

Thing is you can't lose forever because the Reals/Barcas/Chelseas/Uniteds/PSGS/Bayerns, ect can't buy every top player in the world. That includes us too!

You will always have victorys and losses. It's just the way it goes.

And also if you believe what was said when we signed Navas, we beat Real to him!

[Ted Hughes]

The thing is the most reliable source I find is sky sports news, they have announced nothing what so ever? So surely if they don't no anything it's pure speculation at the moment? Also it's not even on the Real Madrid official website? So surely if it ain't on there they ain't signed him yet, judging by the time I reckon an announcement may be made tomorrow now.

Take that notion and disregard it.

SSN are so behind on transfer movement these days I wouldn't even call them a source.

They just rehash real news (brought to them by outside journos) hours later than the stories have broke.

If you want sources, look to the top journos on twitter and the local journos. People such as, Stuart Brennan, Ian Cheeseman, Guillem Balague, Sid Lowe, Rafeal Hogenstein, Graham Hunter, Christian Machowski, Tancredi Palmeri, Gary Linton, Emanuel Rosu, David Ornstein, David Conn, Phillipe Auclair, Sam Wallace, Rob Dawson, Fillipo Ricci, Mark Douglas, Mirkocorli, Mark Ogden, Graham Bailey...

There are hundreds of legit working journos on twitter, tbh the best policy when I comes to transfer news is follow them all and when multiple stories match up from these sources you know things are going down.

And oh never believe the shit that comes out of the club papers, ala Marca, Gazetta, ect. They get fed info by clubs and publish news which helps said club, rather than generally being factual. Mind games and all that.

Oh and don't jump to conclusions... things can change in a day...

All in all, this method will give you insight into what may happen but not a definite picture of what will happen.... and do it a damn sight quicker than SSN.

Most of them are full of shit as well though & just repeat what the rest of the mediia says, including Marca or 'Sky sources'.

You can't genuinely trust anything except the OS.

Even when rumours are reported in good faith from trusted people, it's often wrong, as things change from one minute to the next.

Like i said, this method gives informed insight, not guarantees. Only the mcfc.com does that.

Right or wrong these guys are better placed to inform us of the situations than, tolmie and the rest of the ITKs.

If you crave updates, this method is the best it gets.

Tbh, I don't trust any of them. Many of those people have directly contradicted themselves more than once, just on this one transfer alone. They are purely trying to build their own profiles as journos & will report anything if they think it attracts publicity & they can get away with it. And they aren't City people.

Also, sometimes they get a City story after it's been out for hours, days or even months on a City forum. I've read stuff which has been way way ahead of the media, but as I say, it can't be trusted because sometimes it's spot on & works exactly as predicted, sometimes it's bollocks. The media report utter bollocks every second of every day, but if a genuine itk on a City forum gets just one wrong, he gets hung for it & slagged to fuck. The expected level of honesty re City is much higher amongst City fans than in a newspaper.

I believe some people have contacts at City who tell them stuff, there are too many who vouch for them for it not to be true. I don't think that the contacts themselves always get upto date, correct info though, so it can only be a guideline as to what COULD be happening, not what IS happening. If you believe it all, you are only right about 10% of the time. But that is a much higher percentage than any City rumours from any journos.

[Slim]

I think City have him, I think The Count will show up at work tomorrow with Isco in the passenger seat. If it was announced today then probably Real, but waiting till tomorrow and that's our first day under the new regime, a signing like Isco on the same day is a statement.

[Ted Hughes]

I think City have him, I think The Count will show up at work tomorrow with Isco in the passenger seat. If it was announced today then probably Real, but waiting till tomorrow and that's our first day under the new regime, a signing like Isco on the same day is a statement.

Press conference, vampire girls, Ozzy Osbourne.

[zabbadabbado]

Has definitely gone to Madrid.

Big big money been placed on him signing for them.Market has now been suspended.

large amounts have frightened the bookies.

[CTID Hants]

Has definitely gone to Madrid.

Big big money been placed on him signing for them.Market has now been suspended.

large amounts have frightened the bookies.

By every single bookies? What sort of big money are we talking????

[Blue Blood]

The thing is the most reliable source I find is sky sports news, they have announced nothing what so ever? So surely if they don't no anything it's pure speculation at the moment? Also it's not even on the Real Madrid official website? So surely if it ain't on there they ain't signed him yet, judging by the time I reckon an announcement may be made tomorrow now.

Take that notion and disregard it.

SSN are so behind on transfer movement these days I wouldn't even call them a source.

They just rehash real news (brought to them by outside journos) hours later than the stories have broke.

If you want sources, look to the top journos on twitter and the local journos. People such as, Stuart Brennan, Ian Cheeseman, Guillem Balague, Sid Lowe, Rafeal Hogenstein, Graham Hunter, Christian Machowski, Tancredi Palmeri, Gary Linton, Emanuel Rosu, David Ornstein, David Conn, Phillipe Auclair, Sam Wallace, Rob Dawson, Fillipo Ricci, Mark Douglas, Mirkocorli, Mark Ogden, Graham Bailey...

There are hundreds of legit working journos on twitter, tbh the best policy when I comes to transfer news is follow them all and when multiple stories match up from these sources you know things are going down.

And oh never believe the shit that comes out of the club papers, ala Marca, Gazetta, ect. They get fed info by clubs and publish news which helps said club, rather than generally being factual. Mind games and all that.

Oh and don't jump to conclusions... things can change in a day...

All in all, this method will give you insight into what may happen but not a definite picture of what will happen.... and do it a damn sight quicker than SSN.

Most of them are full of shit as well though & just repeat what the rest of the mediia says, including Marca or 'Sky sources'.

You can't genuinely trust anything except the OS.

Even when rumours are reported in good faith from trusted people, it's often wrong, as things change from one minute to the next.

Like i said, this method gives informed insight, not guarantees. Only the mcfc.com does that.

Right or wrong these guys are better placed to inform us of the situations than, tolmie and the rest of the ITKs.

If you crave updates, this method is the best it gets.

Tbh, I don't trust any of them. Many of those people have directly contradicted themselves more than once, just on this one transfer alone. They are purely trying to build their own profiles as journos & will report anything if they think it attracts publicity & they can get away with it. And they aren't City people.

Also, sometimes they get a City story after it's been out for hours, days or even months on a City forum. I've read stuff which has been way way ahead of the media, but as I say, it can't be trusted because sometimes it's spot on & works exactly as predicted, sometimes it's bollocks. The media report utter bollocks every second of every day, but if a genuine itk on a City forum gets just one wrong, he gets hung for it & slagged to fuck. The expected level of honesty re City is much higher amongst City fans than in a newspaper.

I believe some people have contacts at City who tell them stuff, there are too many who vouch for them for it not to be true. I don't think that the contacts themselves always get upto date, correct info though, so it can only be a guideline as to what COULD be happening, not what IS happening. If you believe it all, you are only right about 10% of the time. But that is a much higher percentage than any City rumours from any journos.

As a general rule what you say is correct. Generally there is story rehashing, guesswork and some bullshit from journos. However like I said if you want to feel on the pulse and have a general insight into things, following journos isn't a bad thing as journos generally won't spout total baseless rubbish as it could impact there livelihood, where as ITKs can and from my own experiences will.

This said following transfer movements on twitter will only to help you get a sense of insight into what is happening. The truth is no one knows what is happening 100% other than the men right at the top of our clubs.

As for city itk's, the real ones disappeared a long time ago, i knew a few who absolutely could be trusted but sensibly as the new regime came in they stopped publicly dishing the dirt as it could be traced back. City is much tighter run ship than it used to be.

[Saul Goodman]

i wonder what he said..

https://twitter.com/Ben890/status/348910188327215104/photo/1

or if its just another PS job

[Blue Blood]

i wonder what he said..

https://twitter.com/Ben890/status/348910188327215104/photo/1

or if its just another PS job

Photoshopped.

..Either that or he packs a team of news reporters in his suitcases.

[dario2739]

Bad photoshop job!

[Saul Goodman]

Hahah figured. Seems like everytime someone is photographed at an airport is a photoshop job