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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby twosips » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:05 am

To be fair i'd have him too as he's still a good player. Not totally convinced he's what we're missing though - could drift in a Nasri style kind of way. He doesn't really use his pace enough. Might just be that Barca's game doesn't suit him.

He basically started off well enough in his first season, had a good six months and faded towards the end of it. He then had a pretty poor first 2/3rds of the season this year but ended it quite well though. I swear he didn't score his first la liga goal until like february or sumat stupid anyway.

I'd take him if he was cheap but i don't think he will be.
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:07 am

Isn't there someone we can steal away from any of the Basque teams, I.E. Athletic or Sociedad? Both of them have performed wonders in different ways recently, so there must be some attacking quality in there somewhere, somehow.
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Scatman » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:26 am

Benjay wrote:
gillie wrote:If the falcon can't persuade Isco to come here Madrid must have promised him the world imo.


I disagree. If he goes to RM its because its Real Madrid, biggest club in Spain and quite possibly the world. Its in Spain - near to friends and family. No language issues. The only issue re not being in the side has been addressed by Zidane. He may think that he will never get the opportunity to play for Madrid again. Its World Cup year so he will get maximum exposure/opportunity. If he goes to RM I would totally understand his reasoning. If he goes there to then sit on the bench that says all you need to know and perhaps we are better off without him. After Wayne Bridge I have no time for benchwarmers......


I'd even play for RM if you pitched it that way to me
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:35 am

Benjay wrote:
gillie wrote:If the falcon can't persuade Isco to come here Madrid must have promised him the world imo.


I disagree. If he goes to RM its because its Real Madrid, biggest club in Spain and quite possibly the world. Its in Spain - near to friends and family. No language issues. The only issue re not being in the side has been addressed by Zidane. He may think that he will never get the opportunity to play for Madrid again. Its World Cup year so he will get maximum exposure/opportunity. If he goes to RM I would totally understand his reasoning. If he goes there to then sit on the bench that says all you need to know and perhaps we are better off without him. After Wayne Bridge I have no time for benchwarmers......

Addressed by Zidane? Is he the manager? The new manager will have to get results and quickly. If that means leaving Isco on the bench then that's where he'll sit.
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Clowncrete » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:29 am

Cocacolajojo wrote:Isn't there someone we can steal away from any of the Basque teams, I.E. Athletic or Sociedad? Both of them have performed wonders in different ways recently, so there must be some attacking quality in there somewhere, somehow.


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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Avalon » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:37 am

Cocacolajojo wrote:Isn't there someone we can steal away from any of the Basque teams, I.E. Athletic or Sociedad? Both of them have performed wonders in different ways recently, so there must be some attacking quality in there somewhere, somehow.


He's been mentioned a couple of times already - Iker Muniain
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:51 am

Avalon wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:Isn't there someone we can steal away from any of the Basque teams, I.E. Athletic or Sociedad? Both of them have performed wonders in different ways recently, so there must be some attacking quality in there somewhere, somehow.


He's been mentioned a couple of times already - Iker Muniain


Yeah that's the guy! He ran circles around United a couple of years ago. What happened to him after that? Why aren't we after him?
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby dick dastardley » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:55 am

just read cavani may go to chelsea after a 50 mil bid from them, my question is do we have a backup plan for getting some quality players in? we dont want to end up like last year getting things done at the last min and panic buy.
pixie and dixie need to start moving on players pelle wants to bring in at the same time start offloading any pelle doesnt want
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Avalon » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:15 am

Cocacolajojo wrote:
Avalon wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:Isn't there someone we can steal away from any of the Basque teams, I.E. Athletic or Sociedad? Both of them have performed wonders in different ways recently, so there must be some attacking quality in there somewhere, somehow.


He's been mentioned a couple of times already - Iker Muniain


Yeah that's the guy! He ran circles around United a couple of years ago. What happened to him after that? Why aren't we after him?


Still there and I think he's a player we should be looking at, as he's talented and very young (20 years I think?).
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Sideshow Bob » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:12 pm

don't think there's a like for like alternative anywhere. i'd suggest we bring back Omar Abdulrahman and see what pelle and Vieira can make of him.
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:22 pm

weren't we linked with alen halilovic a while back - believe the sheikh was personally flying out to croatia to seal the deal. guess that never happened?

also
erik lamela?
fellaini?

we should sign all 3....
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:29 pm

Avalon wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
Avalon wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:Isn't there someone we can steal away from any of the Basque teams, I.E. Athletic or Sociedad? Both of them have performed wonders in different ways recently, so there must be some attacking quality in there somewhere, somehow.


He's been mentioned a couple of times already - Iker Muniain


Yeah that's the guy! He ran circles around United a couple of years ago. What happened to him after that? Why aren't we after him?


Still there and I think he's a player we should be looking at, as he's talented and very young (20 years I think?).


Not saying he wouldn't definitely come but he is 20 years old Basque lad playing for Bilbao. Would he want to leave or would they even consider selling?
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:38 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Avalon wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
Avalon wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:Isn't there someone we can steal away from any of the Basque teams, I.E. Athletic or Sociedad? Both of them have performed wonders in different ways recently, so there must be some attacking quality in there somewhere, somehow.


He's been mentioned a couple of times already - Iker Muniain


Yeah that's the guy! He ran circles around United a couple of years ago. What happened to him after that? Why aren't we after him?


Still there and I think he's a player we should be looking at, as he's talented and very young (20 years I think?).


Not saying he wouldn't definitely come but he is 20 years old Basque lad playing for Bilbao. Would he want to leave or would they even consider selling?


Iker Munain, stalled a bit last season with Bilbao in-fighting Llorenti downing his tools. I will be shot for this but for me he is more suited to us than Isco, he is a fiery lttle shit and at 20 will IMHO go onto be a better fit than many others he is worth a look. Must be on the Pelli radar.
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby london blue 2 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:35 pm

How about that young Spanish midfielder, Denis Suárez?
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Wonderwall » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:44 pm

Here is a silly question. ... do we need an isco alternative? Dont we already have a packed out midfield? I think a top striker and centre back are more important to our squad at the moment.
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Scatman » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:49 pm

Wonderwall wrote:Here is a silly question. ... do we need an isco alternative? Dont we already have a packed out midfield? I think a top striker and centre back are more important to our squad at the moment.


I'd say cover for Clichy was far more important than a CB at the moment.
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:52 pm

Scatman wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:Here is a silly question. ... do we need an isco alternative? Dont we already have a packed out midfield? I think a top striker and centre back are more important to our squad at the moment.


I'd say cover for Clichy was far more important than a CB at the moment.


Pelli wanted his number 10 behind the forwards and Isco was that man it is a majot blow and back to the drawing board on a lot of things now. Requelmi did it at Villareal.
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Slim » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:53 pm

Wonderwall wrote:Here is a silly question. ... do we need an isco alternative? Dont we already have a packed out midfield? I think a top striker and centre back are more important to our squad at the moment.


I think we need another specialist wide player. Milner does well in that position but it's not his best position. Silva, Barry, Rodwell, Garcia, Yaya and Fernandinho are all central players which leaves Navas and Sinclair as the only two proper wide players we have. I am fairly certain we can trim some of the fat from the central midfield overstock to make room for some wingers. However, Muniain is a viable alternative in the same way Sinclair was a viable alternative to Hazard last year.
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby Scatman » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:59 pm

Slim wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:Here is a silly question. ... do we need an isco alternative? Dont we already have a packed out midfield? I think a top striker and centre back are more important to our squad at the moment.


I think we need another specialist wide player. Milner does well in that position but it's not his best position. Silva, Barry, Rodwell, Garcia, Yaya and Fernandinho are all central players which leaves Navas and Sinclair as the only two proper wide players we have. I am fairly certain we can trim some of the fat from the central midfield overstock to make room for some wingers. However, Muniain is a viable alternative in the same way Sinclair was a viable alternative to Hazard last year.


A few on here rate Muniain. Why do you think he's shit?
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Re: Isco alternatives*

Postby sheblue » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:04 pm

I dont think its a case of an isco 'alternative' as it looks like the club and mr Pelligrini thought that isco was so good they wanted him no matter how many midfielders were at the club already. They would fit him in.
Now that he's almost certinaly gone to his newly beloved Madrid, other targets who are not neccessarily alternatives or isco 'type' players can be looked at.

If we look at the squad we had problems up front last year. Tevez situtation is unclear, if he is going then obsiously we need to replace him. Thought the club might have considered Higuain, but he looks like he's gone to arsenal. And as mentioned by others proper cover at left back is required.
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