2 AC (After Cook)

[sandman]

I am the first to admit I was not a massive fan of Garry Cook when he was here due to the embarrasing interviews he gave early on, however I honestly feel we are stepping backwards year by year since he left;

Signings under Cook;

Robinho, Adebayor, Tevez, Yaya, Silva & Aguero.

Granted not all his signings performed for us in the way they should have, but we were getting the names, the reputation and we were building towards a title win.

Signings since Cook;

Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon, Wright, Nastasic, Garcia, Fernandinho & Navas.

Now Cook was with us for 3 years and he really brought the club forward with business dealings, not all worked out on the pitch such as Robinho, but these names lifted our image onto the world stage. In the two years since Cook has left we lost DeJong last summer and despite signing the five second rate players and Nastasic we started 12/13 with a worse squad than we finished 11/12, this summer we have already let our hardest working forward go in Tevez before bringing in a suitable replacement and now we are talking about replacing him with Negredo who is 27 and in my opinion no better that Dzeko? No serious players are taking City seriously anymore and we are receeding rapidly in both quality and reputation.

[Blue Blood]

I am the first to admit I was not a massive fan of Garry Cook when he was here due to the embarrasing interviews he gave early on, however I honestly feel we are stepping backwards year by year since he left;

Signings under Cook;

Robinho, Adebayor, Tevez, Yaya, Silva & Aguero.

Granted not all his signings performed for us in the way they should have, but we were getting the names, the reputation and we were building towards a title win.

Signings since Cook;

Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon, Wright, Nastasic, Garcia, Fernandinho & Navas.

Now Cook was with us for 3 years and he really brought the club forward with business dealings, not all worked out on the pitch such as Robinho, but these names lifted our image onto the world stage. In the two years since Cook has left we lost DeJong last summer and despite signing the five second rate players and Nastasic we started 12/13 with a worse squad than we finished 11/12, this summer we have already let our hardest working forward go in Tevez before bringing in a suitable replacement and now we are talking about replacing him with Negredo who is 27 and in my opinion no better that Dzeko? No serious players are taking City seriously anymore and we are receeding rapidly in both quality and reputation.

Bored to tears of this crap, look at all the fuck ups under Cooke too.

RSC, Bridge, ect. Huge wages, un-sellable players.

The way we conducted business in the beginning, without the sheikhs generosity, would have drove us into the ground. I understand in order to establish ourselves to begin with we had to operate like that but to suggest we must continue to buy big and buy often to be regarded as a big club is insane.

We have a quality core squad, built over time, that we need to supplement each year, not totally replace.

Narrow minded joke of a thread.

[Lee_R]

FFP.

[Original Dub]

FFP.

[Nigels Tackle]

FFP.

FFS!

[sandman]

I am the first to admit I was not a massive fan of Garry Cook when he was here due to the embarrasing interviews he gave early on, however I honestly feel we are stepping backwards year by year since he left;

Signings under Cook;

Robinho, Adebayor, Tevez, Yaya, Silva & Aguero.

Granted not all his signings performed for us in the way they should have, but we were getting the names, the reputation and we were building towards a title win.

Signings since Cook;

Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon, Wright, Nastasic, Garcia, Fernandinho & Navas.

Now Cook was with us for 3 years and he really brought the club forward with business dealings, not all worked out on the pitch such as Robinho, but these names lifted our image onto the world stage. In the two years since Cook has left we lost DeJong last summer and despite signing the five second rate players and Nastasic we started 12/13 with a worse squad than we finished 11/12, this summer we have already let our hardest working forward go in Tevez before bringing in a suitable replacement and now we are talking about replacing him with Negredo who is 27 and in my opinion no better that Dzeko? No serious players are taking City seriously anymore and we are receeding rapidly in both quality and reputation.

Bored to tears of this crap, look at all the fuck ups under Cooke too.

RSC, Bridge, ect. Huge wages, un-sellable players.

The way we conducted business in the beginning, without the sheikhs generosity, would have drove us into the ground. I understand in order to establish ourselves to begin with we had to operate like that but to suggest we must continue to buy big and buy often to be regarded as a big club is insane.

We have a quality core squad, built over time, that we need to supplement each year, not totally replace.

Narrow minded joke of a thread.

You have totally missed the point I was making;

There were fuck ups under Cookie, I am not disputing or even discussing that, my point is that we have not had a big name sign since he left, we had a boatload in the three years he was here. Cookie may have signed shit like Bridge and RSC, but he also managed to sign big named players like Silva, Yaya, Tevez & Aguero. We can no longer sign these type of names, look at Cavani, Isco, Levedowski and Falcao etc all being courted about and we dont have a fucking chance amongst the big boys anymore.

[Original Dub]

You have totally missed the point I was making;

There were fuck ups under Cookie, I am not disputing or even discussing that, my point is that we have not had a big name sign since he left, we had a boatload in the three years he was here. Cookie may have signed shit like Bridge and RSC, but he also managed to sign big named players like Silva, Yaya, Tevez & Aguero. We can no longer sign these type of names, look at Cavani, Isco, Levedowski and Falcao etc all being courted about and we dont have a fucking chance amongst the big boys anymore.

Because of ffp

[sandman]

I am the first to admit I was not a massive fan of Garry Cook when he was here due to the embarrasing interviews he gave early on, however I honestly feel we are stepping backwards year by year since he left;

Signings under Cook;

Robinho, Adebayor, Tevez, Yaya, Silva & Aguero.

Granted not all his signings performed for us in the way they should have, but we were getting the names, the reputation and we were building towards a title win.

Signings since Cook;

Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon, Wright, Nastasic, Garcia, Fernandinho & Navas.

Now Cook was with us for 3 years and he really brought the club forward with business dealings, not all worked out on the pitch such as Robinho, but these names lifted our image onto the world stage. In the two years since Cook has left we lost DeJong last summer and despite signing the five second rate players and Nastasic we started 12/13 with a worse squad than we finished 11/12, this summer we have already let our hardest working forward go in Tevez before bringing in a suitable replacement and now we are talking about replacing him with Negredo who is 27 and in my opinion no better that Dzeko? No serious players are taking City seriously anymore and we are receeding rapidly in both quality and reputation.

Bored to tears of this crap, look at all the fuck ups under Cooke too.

RSC, Bridge, ect. Huge wages, un-sellable players.

The way we conducted business in the beginning, without the sheikhs generosity, would have drove us into the ground. I understand in order to establish ourselves to begin with we had to operate like that but to suggest we must continue to buy big and buy often to be regarded as a big club is insane.

We have a quality core squad, built over time, that we need to supplement each year, not totally replace.

Narrow minded joke of a thread.

You have totally missed the point I was making;

There were fuck ups under Cookie, I am not disputing or even discussing that, my point is that we have not had a big name sign since he left, we had a boatload in the three years he was here. Cookie may have signed shit like Bridge and RSC, but he also managed to sign big named players like Silva, Yaya, Tevez & Aguero. We can no longer sign these type of names, look at Cavani, Isco, Levedowski and Falcao etc all being courted about and we dont have a fucking chance amongst the big boys anymore.

And whats more I agree that we don't need to totally replace our Squad but we have not replaced DeJong yet and now we have lost Tevez with little hope of a quality replacement.

[sandman]

You have totally missed the point I was making;

There were fuck ups under Cookie, I am not disputing or even discussing that, my point is that we have not had a big name sign since he left, we had a boatload in the three years he was here. Cookie may have signed shit like Bridge and RSC, but he also managed to sign big named players like Silva, Yaya, Tevez & Aguero. We can no longer sign these type of names, look at Cavani, Isco, Levedowski and Falcao etc all being courted about and we dont have a fucking chance amongst the big boys anymore.

Because of ffp

Then why can Monaco & PSG still afford to move for players, even Chelsea are being taken more seriously than us.

[Blue Blood]

I am the first to admit I was not a massive fan of Garry Cook when he was here due to the embarrasing interviews he gave early on, however I honestly feel we are stepping backwards year by year since he left;

Signings under Cook;

Robinho, Adebayor, Tevez, Yaya, Silva & Aguero.

Granted not all his signings performed for us in the way they should have, but we were getting the names, the reputation and we were building towards a title win.

Signings since Cook;

Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon, Wright, Nastasic, Garcia, Fernandinho & Navas.

Now Cook was with us for 3 years and he really brought the club forward with business dealings, not all worked out on the pitch such as Robinho, but these names lifted our image onto the world stage. In the two years since Cook has left we lost DeJong last summer and despite signing the five second rate players and Nastasic we started 12/13 with a worse squad than we finished 11/12, this summer we have already let our hardest working forward go in Tevez before bringing in a suitable replacement and now we are talking about replacing him with Negredo who is 27 and in my opinion no better that Dzeko? No serious players are taking City seriously anymore and we are receeding rapidly in both quality and reputation.

Bored to tears of this crap, look at all the fuck ups under Cooke too.

RSC, Bridge, ect. Huge wages, un-sellable players.

The way we conducted business in the beginning, without the sheikhs generosity, would have drove us into the ground. I understand in order to establish ourselves to begin with we had to operate like that but to suggest we must continue to buy big and buy often to be regarded as a big club is insane.

We have a quality core squad, built over time, that we need to supplement each year, not totally replace.

Narrow minded joke of a thread.

You have totally missed the point I was making;

There were fuck ups under Cookie, I am not disputing or even discussing that, my point is that we have not had a big name sign since he left, we had a boatload in the three years he was here. Cookie may have signed shit like Bridge and RSC, but he also managed to sign big named players like Silva, Yaya, Tevez & Aguero. We can no longer sign these type of names, look at Cavani, Isco, Levedowski and Falcao etc all being courted about and we dont have a fucking chance amongst the big boys anymore.

You what??

Don't have a chance....

Comon pal, we have the cash, we just don't drop our knickers and let clubs and players fuck us like we used to. Pre FFP we could get away with it, not now. It is the same for everyone.

If we NEEDED a "worldy" player we could get him but frankly we don't NEED to break the bank atm. The core squad is more than strong enough to compete.

Lets hold the cash until we really NEED to replace a core team member eh.

Oh and on FFP, just because Monaco and PSG break the rules doesn't mean we should follow suit. Let them fight the battle, win the war then we can open the coiffers again.

They could still easily get booted out of Europe, why should we risk it.

[Tokyo Blue]

The reason why we are not making big name signings are:

a) we don't need them quite as desperately any more because, as stated elsewhere, we are challenging at the top of "The Best League In The World" (R);
b) agents and our refusal to let them dictate terms;
c) the club's desire to produce homegrown players, leading to a focus on signing talented young players instead of superstars.
d) Financial "Fair Play"

Not really anything to do with Cook, IMHO.

[Blue Blood]

The reason why we are not making big name signings are:

a) we don't need them quite as desperately any more because, as stated elsewhere, we are challenging at the top of "The Best League In The World" (R);
b) agents and our refusal to let them dictate terms;
c) the club's desire to produce homegrown players, leading to a focus on signing talented young players instead of superstars.
d) Financial "Fair Play"

Not really anything to do with Cook, IMHO.

Common sense prevails.

Good post!

[sandman]

I am the first to admit I was not a massive fan of Garry Cook when he was here due to the embarrasing interviews he gave early on, however I honestly feel we are stepping backwards year by year since he left;

Signings under Cook;

Robinho, Adebayor, Tevez, Yaya, Silva & Aguero.

Granted not all his signings performed for us in the way they should have, but we were getting the names, the reputation and we were building towards a title win.

Signings since Cook;

Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon, Wright, Nastasic, Garcia, Fernandinho & Navas.

Now Cook was with us for 3 years and he really brought the club forward with business dealings, not all worked out on the pitch such as Robinho, but these names lifted our image onto the world stage. In the two years since Cook has left we lost DeJong last summer and despite signing the five second rate players and Nastasic we started 12/13 with a worse squad than we finished 11/12, this summer we have already let our hardest working forward go in Tevez before bringing in a suitable replacement and now we are talking about replacing him with Negredo who is 27 and in my opinion no better that Dzeko? No serious players are taking City seriously anymore and we are receeding rapidly in both quality and reputation.

Bored to tears of this crap, look at all the fuck ups under Cooke too.

RSC, Bridge, ect. Huge wages, un-sellable players.

The way we conducted business in the beginning, without the sheikhs generosity, would have drove us into the ground. I understand in order to establish ourselves to begin with we had to operate like that but to suggest we must continue to buy big and buy often to be regarded as a big club is insane.

We have a quality core squad, built over time, that we need to supplement each year, not totally replace.

Narrow minded joke of a thread.

You have totally missed the point I was making;

There were fuck ups under Cookie, I am not disputing or even discussing that, my point is that we have not had a big name sign since he left, we had a boatload in the three years he was here. Cookie may have signed shit like Bridge and RSC, but he also managed to sign big named players like Silva, Yaya, Tevez & Aguero. We can no longer sign these type of names, look at Cavani, Isco, Levedowski and Falcao etc all being courted about and we dont have a fucking chance amongst the big boys anymore.

You what??

Don't have a chance....

Comon pal, we have the cash, we just don't drop our knickers and let clubs and players fuck us like we used to. Pre FFP we could get away with it, not now. It is the same for everyone.

If we NEEDED a "worldy" player we could get him but frankly we don't NEED to break the bank atm. The core squad is more than strong enough to compete.

Lets hold the cash until we really NEED to replace a core team member eh.

Okay so Aguero and Dzeko up top will be fine then hey? We have let a top class talent go and we havent got a quality replacement lined up, therefore since winning the league we have deteriorated in quality for the second summer in succession.

[Tokyo Blue]

Okay so Aguero and Dzeko up top will be fine then hey? We have let a top class talent go and we havent got a quality replacement lined up, therefore since winning the league we have deteriorated in quality for the second summer in succession.

Maybe we should see what happens when we play some matches before we bleat about how shit we are.

[carl_feedthegoat]

You are off your fucking rocker mate , completely lost the plot.
We have not played a game yet and your all doom and gloom , we have not reached the end of the transfer window ffs !
Im not even going to go on as your post is fuckign ridiculous.

[Ted Hughes]

I struggle to believe that people can still come out with stuff like this.

It seems to me that there is enough, in fact an overwhelming volume of information freely available, without having to constantly spell out the way City have been planning to operate & yet there seem to be new ones every day who need it spelling out.

[sandman]

I'll ressurect this thread at next summer when we've missed out on another title because we have nobody scoring.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I'll ressurect this thread at next summer when we've missed out on another title because we have nobody scoring.

Or , you and the other Mancini licker gang will hide under the shadows due to being too embarrassed to show your face as your predictions went to shit..........

[Blue Blood]

I'll ressurect this thread at next summer when we've missed out on another title because we have nobody scoring.

Or , you and the other Mancini licker gang will hide under the shadows due to being too embarrassed to show your face as your predictions went to shit..........

Haha, this.

Sandman, pal, buddy, you are a right fucking donut.

Gonna stop debating this point with the nostradamus of the north now.

Utter. waste. of. time.

[Ted Hughes]

I'll ressurect this thread at next summer when we've missed out on another title because we have nobody scoring.

So if that happens then is it so much worse than having paid absolute top transfer fees for 4 strikers, millions of pounds in wages, & them not scoring, like last season ?

Shit happens.

You deal with it & try to improve, which we have just done.

If it doesn't work, you try again.