Khaldoon, Soriano, Tricky.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Khaldoon: "A word in your ear sunshine..." You sold me the holistic thingamajig I still do not know what the feck it is, that is the bye the bye, I am losing my mind, ok ousah ousah, Calming down now

OK any more fuck ups like the fucking Isco fiasco I tell you this I tell you once you will be gone MOFO.Oh an another thing players over 30 are confusing the fek out of the fans. Speak to them you are like a fucking ghost,

Over 30? I take it you're talking about the Pepe rumours.

Just a guess but it may be a case of buying experience for the here and now whilst leaving the door open for the EDS to come through when the recent purchases are headed for the scrapyard.

[Hazy2]

Khaldoon: "A word in your ear sunshine..." You sold me the holistic thingamajig I still do not know what the feck it is, that is the bye the bye, I am losing my mind, ok ousah ousah, Calming down now

OK any more fuck ups like the fucking Isco fiasco I tell you this I tell you once you will be gone MOFO.Oh an another thing players over 30 are confusing the fek out of the fans. Speak to them you are like a fucking ghost,

Over 30? I take it you're talking about the Pepe rumours.

Just a guess but it may be a case of buying experience for the here and now whilst leaving the door open for the EDS to come through when the recent purchases are headed for the scrapyard.

I know we wanted a Pep ,would they be buying this loon for Barca. Open door to we are not Barca, c.mon The player is unhinged wrong age and 30 yr olds coming to the Prem at 15/16/17 Mill, De Mechilis is a better player at 3 mill, we may as well keep RSC.
It is confusing from any stand point, he is decent, just seems a shitload of dough in wages and fee for a risk we dont have to take.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Khaldoon: "A word in your ear sunshine..." You sold me the holistic thingamajig I still do not know what the feck it is, that is the bye the bye, I am losing my mind, ok ousah ousah, Calming down now

OK any more fuck ups like the fucking Isco fiasco I tell you this I tell you once you will be gone MOFO.Oh an another thing players over 30 are confusing the fek out of the fans. Speak to them you are like a fucking ghost,

Over 30? I take it you're talking about the Pepe rumours.

Just a guess but it may be a case of buying experience for the here and now whilst leaving the door open for the EDS to come through when the recent purchases are headed for the scrapyard.

I know we wanted a Pep ,would they be buying this loon for Barca. Open door to we are not Barca, c.mon The player is unhinged wrong age and 30 yr olds coming to the Prem at 15/16/17 Mill, De Mechilis is a better player at 3 mill, we may as well keep RSC.
It is confusing from any stand point, he is decent, just seems a shitload of dough in wages and fee for a risk we dont have to take.

Demicheles is on his last legs, Pepe has another 2/3 good years left in him. His wages are reportedly £30k less than Lescott's a week.

I know we're not Barca but there's a desire there to bring through academy graduates, so to sign players in their prime now makes sense while we wait for the kids to be ready to make the breakthrough, no?

[Twobob]

Khaldoon: "A word in your ear sunshine..." You sold me the holistic thingamajig I still do not know what the feck it is, that is the bye the bye, I am losing my mind, ok ousah ousah, Calming down now

OK any more fuck ups like the fucking Isco fiasco I tell you this I tell you once you will be gone MOFO.Oh an another thing players over 30 are confusing the fek out of the fans. Speak to them you are like a fucking ghost,

Over 30? I take it you're talking about the Pepe rumours.

Just a guess but it may be a case of buying experience for the here and now whilst leaving the door open for the EDS to come through when the recent purchases are headed for the scrapyard.

I know we wanted a Pep ,would they be buying this loon for Barca. Open door to we are not Barca, c.mon The player is unhinged wrong age and 30 yr olds coming to the Prem at 15/16/17 Mill, De Mechilis is a better player at 3 mill, we may as well keep RSC.
It is confusing from any stand point, he is decent, just seems a shitload of dough in wages and fee for a risk we dont have to take.

Not as confusing as your posts ...

[Ted Hughes]

I don't understand why people expeced it would take time for Mancini to arrange his style when he first came in, but Pellegrini is supposed to impose his style on the team immediately.

Do people really think he is so much better at organisation than Mancini ?

I suppose he will prove to be exactly that if he achieves it.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

There has been no completely squad overhaul. Jusr couple of guys leaving and couple of guys coming in, which happens in every football club. It was different when Sheik (bless him) came in and for few years we changed half of playing staff every summer. And for a while we were in a situation where lower mid-table quality players were rubbing shoulders with some world stars. That was good excuse then. Now it's just stupid cliche.

I don't recall it being a good excuse for you at the time?

Eh?

[Hazy2]

Khaldoon: "A word in your ear sunshine..." You sold me the holistic thingamajig I still do not know what the feck it is, that is the bye the bye, I am losing my mind, ok ousah ousah, Calming down now

OK any more fuck ups like the fucking Isco fiasco I tell you this I tell you once you will be gone MOFO.Oh an another thing players over 30 are confusing the fek out of the fans. Speak to them you are like a fucking ghost,

Over 30? I take it you're talking about the Pepe rumours.

Just a guess but it may be a case of buying experience for the here and now whilst leaving the door open for the EDS to come through when the recent purchases are headed for the scrapyard.

I know we wanted a Pep ,would they be buying this loon for Barca. Open door to we are not Barca, c.mon The player is unhinged wrong age and 30 yr olds coming to the Prem at 15/16/17 Mill, De Mechilis is a better player at 3 mill, we may as well keep RSC.
It is confusing from any stand point, he is decent, just seems a shitload of dough in wages and fee for a risk we dont have to take.

Not as confusing as your posts ...

I am sorry you are confused mate.

[brite blu sky]

If he isn't up to getting results instantly then I don't see what was point in changing manager inthe first place.

submitting this for a stupidest comment of all time, hall of fame place.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

If he isn't up to getting results instantly then I don't see what was point in changing manager inthe first place.

submitting this for a stupidest comment of all time, hall of fame place.

Again. Eh?
Did we bring in some loser? We finished second place and lost FA Cup final so obviously improvement is expected.

I bet you are going to be one of the worst apologists if things go wrong.

[Original Dub]

There has been no completely squad overhaul. Jusr couple of guys leaving and couple of guys coming in, which happens in every football club. It was different when Sheik (bless him) came in and for few years we changed half of playing staff every summer. And for a while we were in a situation where lower mid-table quality players were rubbing shoulders with some world stars. That was good excuse then. Now it's just stupid cliche.

I don't recall it being a good excuse for you at the time?

Eh?

I clearly remember you at the time moaning that it shouldn't take several windows to get a winning team assembled and gelled.

So it obviously wasn't a good excuse then?

[Ted Hughes]

If he isn't up to getting results instantly then I don't see what was point in changing manager inthe first place.

submitting this for a stupidest comment of all time, hall of fame place.

Again. Eh?
Did we bring in some loser? We finished second place and lost FA Cup final so obviously improvement is expected.

I bet you are going to be one of the worst apologists if things go wrong.

You do know why Pellegrini was brought in, as we have already discussed it.

[brite blu sky]

That all leaves mr Jecko. Is he good enough if the way we play gets a bit more direct and more counter attacking?

I don't know, he is a good counter attacker and is more effective with the ball when there is space in front of him. As to his qualities as a target in the box we hardly ever used to see that under Bob, so the jury is out. I think he ought to be near to top notch. He's never really been used properly and has come across as more of a donkey than anything else most of the time. We should give him the chance under the new manager and see.

Interesting point re counter attacking; Pellegrini says he doesn't, media experts say he doesn't, but Fernandinho & Navas suggests he will, if the occasion arises. Imo though, Dzeko has been one of City's best players onthe counter attack.

But if we just buy ten strikers for £100 million each & close the fucking deals, we don't need to worry about shit like that; just sign everybody.

I can see us counter attacking against strong teams like in the CL, otherwise it is a bit difficult to counter if the oppo is just defending innit!
The other point with testing our Dzeko is just the direct approach, he proved to be reasonable when he got picked out in the box, from corners or cos we were frantic and pelting the ball in.
I tend to wonder if he wasn't trying to master another way of playing that he wasn't confident in anyway; whether or not just concentrating on his familiar game would have seen him perform more effectively. I kind of think it would have done, maybe I am being too gracious to Dzeko, but I just feel that he has something about him that Bob just didn't pull out of him.


Just a lil thought but I'd like to see a CL set up with Dzeko up top and Navas and Yaya just loitering then Fernandinho Silva and Milner looking to break up the oppos play and feed one of the three.
Catching a chance to get the ball to any one of those 3 particularly Navas or Yaya with Dzeko legging it straight at the goal would be disastrous for any opposition, we would carve up any team on the planet.

[Ted Hughes]

That all leaves mr Jecko. Is he good enough if the way we play gets a bit more direct and more counter attacking?

I don't know, he is a good counter attacker and is more effective with the ball when there is space in front of him. As to his qualities as a target in the box we hardly ever used to see that under Bob, so the jury is out. I think he ought to be near to top notch. He's never really been used properly and has come across as more of a donkey than anything else most of the time. We should give him the chance under the new manager and see.

Interesting point re counter attacking; Pellegrini says he doesn't, media experts say he doesn't, but Fernandinho & Navas suggests he will, if the occasion arises. Imo though, Dzeko has been one of City's best players onthe counter attack.

But if we just buy ten strikers for £100 million each & close the fucking deals, we don't need to worry about shit like that; just sign everybody.

I can see us counter attacking against strong teams like in the CL, otherwise it is a bit difficult to counter if the oppo is just defending innit!
The other point with testing our Dzeko is just the direct approach, he proved to be reasonable when he got picked out in the box, from corners or cos we were frantic and pelting the ball in.
I tend to wonder if he wasn't trying to master another way of playing that he wasn't confident in anyway; whether or not just concentrating on his familiar game would have seen him perform more effectively. I kind of think it would have done, maybe I am being too gracious to Dzeko, but I just feel that he has something about him that Bob just didn't pull out of him.


Just a lil thought but I'd like to see a CL set up with Dzeko up top and Navas and Yaya just loitering then Fernandinho Silva and Milner looking to break up the oppos play and feed one of the three.
Catching a chance to get the ball to any one of those 3 particularly Navas or Yaya with Dzeko legging it straight at the goal would be disastrous for any opposition, we would carve up any team on the planet.

It seems that the Count is very much attack minded, so that is probably why there is so little evidence goals on the break; because they are already in the oppo's half. But imo the squad we are building could be awesome at it.

In the Chaps Lg imo, we either have to keep the ball like Barca, or we have to have a Barry type player behind Fernandinho.

[brite blu sky]

It seems that the Count is very much attack minded, so that is probably why there is so little evidence goals on the break; because they are already in the oppo's half. But imo the squad we are building could be awesome at it.

In the Chaps Lg imo, we either have to keep the ball like Barca, or we have to have a Barry type player behind Fernandinho.

Yes I did think Barry as in practice he is quite good at breaking up or nicking the ball back, Milner less so.

Anyway if you run with my lil scenario... basically Yaya forward and Ferdi and say Gaz Baz breaking up, then that leaves Silva in a more fluid role but with instructions to help the other mids defend. lets say like a 4-2-1-2-1. Also I dont think that Navas has to be used on the wing, he could have a more centered start point no problem.
Personally if I were an oppo and City had both Navas and Yaya loitering about high up with Dzeko or Aguero ready to pounce, I'd be very worried about Yaya or Navas receiving the ball, particularly from deeper passes from City's half.

For anyone not quite getting this, the reason for Yaya and Navas is they are the two best players at directly running at players AND keeping the ball while doing it - in fact they are two of the best in the world at it.. yet in different ways as well. (now if they could both switch sides as well pfff fuck me that would be something ).

[Hazy2]

That all leaves mr Jecko. Is he good enough if the way we play gets a bit more direct and more counter attacking?

I don't know, he is a good counter attacker and is more effective with the ball when there is space in front of him. As to his qualities as a target in the box we hardly ever used to see that under Bob, so the jury is out. I think he ought to be near to top notch. He's never really been used properly and has come across as more of a donkey than anything else most of the time. We should give him the chance under the new manager and see.

Interesting point re counter attacking; Pellegrini says he doesn't, media experts say he doesn't, but Fernandinho & Navas suggests he will, if the occasion arises. Imo though, Dzeko has been one of City's best players onthe counter attack.

But if we just buy ten strikers for £100 million each & close the fucking deals, we don't need to worry about shit like that; just sign everybody.

I can see us counter attacking against strong teams like in the CL, otherwise it is a bit difficult to counter if the oppo is just defending innit!
The other point with testing our Dzeko is just the direct approach, he proved to be reasonable when he got picked out in the box, from corners or cos we were frantic and pelting the ball in.
I tend to wonder if he wasn't trying to master another way of playing that he wasn't confident in anyway; whether or not just concentrating on his familiar game would have seen him perform more effectively. I kind of think it would have done, maybe I am being too gracious to Dzeko, but I just feel that he has something about him that Bob just didn't pull out of him.


Just a lil thought but I'd like to see a CL set up with Dzeko up top and Navas and Yaya just loitering then Fernandinho Silva and Milner looking to break up the oppos play and feed one of the three.
Catching a chance to get the ball to any one of those 3 particularly Navas or Yaya with Dzeko legging it straight at the goal would be disastrous for any opposition, we would carve up any team on the planet.

It seems that the Count is very much attack minded, so that is probably why there is so little evidence goals on the break; because they are already in the oppo's half. But imo the squad we are building could be awesome at it.

In the Chaps Lg imo, we either have to keep the ball like Barca, or we have to have a Barry type player behind Fernandinho.

Malaga had the surprise factor in CL. Plus a well constructed squad with a tone of Exp.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

There has been no completely squad overhaul. Jusr couple of guys leaving and couple of guys coming in, which happens in every football club. It was different when Sheik (bless him) came in and for few years we changed half of playing staff every summer. And for a while we were in a situation where lower mid-table quality players were rubbing shoulders with some world stars. That was good excuse then. Now it's just stupid cliche.

I don't recall it being a good excuse for you at the time?

Eh?

I clearly remember you at the time moaning that it shouldn't take several windows to get a winning team assembled and gelled.

So it obviously wasn't a good excuse then?

Yes. I thought taking mid-table team, adding tens of millions worth a new players and taking them close to relegation zone was quite unacceptable. Obviously we are talking about different thing. And obviously I don't think Pellegrini is complete moron who gets good licking just because he used to play for "Manchester".

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

If he isn't up to getting results instantly then I don't see what was point in changing manager inthe first place.

submitting this for a stupidest comment of all time, hall of fame place.

Again. Eh?
Did we bring in some loser? We finished second place and lost FA Cup final so obviously improvement is expected.

I bet you are going to be one of the worst apologists if things go wrong.

You do know why Pellegrini was brought in, as we have already discussed it.

Of course I know why he was brought in but with arguably one of the top 7 teams in the world qualitywise I do expect results early and clear showing that he will be able to win competitions in the future.

[brite blu sky]

That all leaves mr Jecko. Is he good enough if the way we play gets a bit more direct and more counter attacking?

I don't know, he is a good counter attacker and is more effective with the ball when there is space in front of him. As to his qualities as a target in the box we hardly ever used to see that under Bob, so the jury is out. I think he ought to be near to top notch. He's never really been used properly and has come across as more of a donkey than anything else most of the time. We should give him the chance under the new manager and see.

Interesting point re counter attacking; Pellegrini says he doesn't, media experts say he doesn't, but Fernandinho & Navas suggests he will, if the occasion arises. Imo though, Dzeko has been one of City's best players onthe counter attack.

But if we just buy ten strikers for £100 million each & close the fucking deals, we don't need to worry about shit like that; just sign everybody.

I can see us counter attacking against strong teams like in the CL, otherwise it is a bit difficult to counter if the oppo is just defending innit!
The other point with testing our Dzeko is just the direct approach, he proved to be reasonable when he got picked out in the box, from corners or cos we were frantic and pelting the ball in.
I tend to wonder if he wasn't trying to master another way of playing that he wasn't confident in anyway; whether or not just concentrating on his familiar game would have seen him perform more effectively. I kind of think it would have done, maybe I am being too gracious to Dzeko, but I just feel that he has something about him that Bob just didn't pull out of him.


Just a lil thought but I'd like to see a CL set up with Dzeko up top and Navas and Yaya just loitering then Fernandinho Silva and Milner looking to break up the oppos play and feed one of the three.
Catching a chance to get the ball to any one of those 3 particularly Navas or Yaya with Dzeko legging it straight at the goal would be disastrous for any opposition, we would carve up any team on the planet.

It seems that the Count is very much attack minded, so that is probably why there is so little evidence goals on the break; because they are already in the oppo's half. But imo the squad we are building could be awesome at it.

In the Chaps Lg imo, we either have to keep the ball like Barca, or we have to have a Barry type player behind Fernandinho.

Malaga had the surprise factor in CL. Plus a well constructed squad with a tone of Exp.

I ought to dig out his record against Barca and Madrid when at Villarreal. If memory serves I think it was quite reasonable with some noteable wins, seem to remember some games where the counterattacking again Barca just took them apart completely, good to watch.

[Original Dub]

Yes. I thought taking mid-table team, adding tens of millions worth a new players and taking them close to relegation zone was quite unacceptable. Obviously we are talking about different thing. And obviously I don't think Pellegrini is complete moron who gets good licking just because he used to play for "Manchester".

I honestly don't know why you're turning this into a hughes thing. You're obsessed with the chap.

What you said was it used to be a good excuse. When you never thought that.

Also, spending millions and going backwards is why bobbie got the bullet.

[Hazy2]

All of his teams have played great football better than Mancini for me, always had the nymber 10 Riquelme at Villareal was a top player in a system that was great to watch.

Dub the way the season panned out was I guess just how RM said it would in so much as we came up short. He had his targets. RVP was done according to Mike Summerbee, Hazard, was at the Derby and with VK in the Lowry after the game, suggests it went wrong somhow so was the agenda set way before the end of the season I am looking forwards just saying there are some unanswered reasons why we failed to get targets and with Isco now poached from under our noses.