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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:17 pm

Slim wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
Blackadder wrote:Remember quite liking him until I went to a home International at The Racecourse between Wales and England. Ball went out of play and he shot a torrent of foul mouthed abuse at a ballboy who wasn't quick enough in getting the ball back to him. The only other memorable moment from that game was our former manager scoring the winner.

Can you narrow it down a bit for me, please, mate?


You're kidding right?

How many Welsh managers have we had?

Too many.
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:08 pm

He probably drives the car sideways even when sober...old habits die hard mr crab
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby Chinners » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:52 pm

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Ray Wilkins 'abusive' at police station after drink-drive arrest, court told
The ex-England, Chelsea and Manchester United footballer denies driving under the influence of alcohol while returning to his Cobham home from a football awards dinner in Dorset
Former England footballer Ray Wilkins told police “I am a villain - I am bang out of order” after being arrested on suspicion of drink-driving near his Cobham home, a court has been told.
In the second day of the ex-Chelsea star’s trial on Tuesday, Staines Magistrates’ Court heard how Mr Wilkins was told by an officer that being abusive would not speed up the process at Reigate police station.
Mr Wilkins provided a roadside breath specimen of 109 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath, the court was told. The legal limit is 35 microgrammes.
In the dock, the 56-year-old defendant, of The Laurels, denied he had been rude and abusive inside the police station, saying: “It’s not in my manner.”
He added: “I was finding it frustrating.”
The football pundit was arrested on suspicion of drink-driving and taken to the police station in handcuffs early on May 7 last year, where he is alleged to have sworn and accepted he had been drinking, saying: “I will admit that.”
As he was waiting in custody for a breathalyser test, the court was told Mr Wilkins said: “What are we waiting for, let’s get on with it.”
When police stopped him using his phone to call his wife, it was said that he became "abusive".
“When you have told someone you are leaving at 11.30 and you don’t arrive at that time, people get worried,” Mr Wilkins told the court.
'No objections'
Having slept in a cell after his arrest, Mr Wilkins was charged at 8.16am and was allowed to call his wife. He left the police station in a taxi shortly after.
Prosecutor Paul Lund claimed the defendant had at no time during his arrest told anyone he was innocent and that he had not committed the offence.
“I suggest you knew perfectly well why you had been stopped, hence no objections. You knew you had been drinking to excess, didn’t you?”
Mr Wilkins replied that he had not.
“You provided a roadside specimen of 109. You are going to tell the court that meant nothing to you?”
The prosecutor said Mr Wilkins must have had some knowledge of drink-driving because of his work with young athletes in the past.
In his defence, Mr Wilkins said he did not know about it, saying: “If you ask me about their football ability, I will be able to tell you about that.”
'Tired from driving'
Mr Wilkins told the court he had been handing medals out to young people at a football tournament in Bournemouth on Sunday May 6 last year.
During the course of the evening, he drank two medium glasses of red wine before driving back to Surrey.
Asked how he was feeling after the event by defence counsel Phillip Lucas, Mr Wilkins said: “I was feeling very good. It was very good to see the kids enjoying themselves. I left there quite happy.
“I phoned my good lady and told her I was leaving and I should be back in a couple of hours.”
The court heard that after leaving Dorset at 11.30pm, he drove back to Cobham.
As he turned from Portsmouth Road into Fairmile Lane, he caught the attention of a police officer in an unmarked car.
On Monday at the court, PC Nicholas Skidmore told the court Mr Wilkins drove over a traffic island and was "weaving" down the road , something the defendant denied.
“I would have gone onto the other side of the road or on the curb,” he said.
Mr Wilkins said he protested at having handcuffs placed on him. He slept for some of the journey to Reigate, prompting Mr Lund to ask: “Handcuffed behind your back, arrested out of the blue, that can’t have been comfortable, and you slept?
"Was that because you were intoxicated? Is it not rather uncomfortable to be sleeping in handcuffs? I would suggest you were under the influence and you slept assisted by alcohol.”
“I would suggest I was tired from a lot of driving,” Mr Wilkins replied.
During his cross-examination, Mr Wilkins said he had "not forgotten anything" as he was asked about the evening in question.
But when asked about what happened inside the police station at Reigate, he was unable to recall being searched, taking his shoes off, and being scanned by a police officer at the custody desk – something Mr Lund suggested was an indicator that his memory was impaired by alcohol.
Mr Wilkins denies drink-driving and the trial continues.
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:48 pm

I think he should have had the fuck beat out of him. He could've killed someone.
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:31 pm

“If you ask me about their football ability, I will be able to tell you about that.”

That's perjury right there.
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby freshie » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:22 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:“If you ask me about their football ability, I will be able to tell you about that.”

That's perjury right there.


Haha. Very good
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby mr_nool » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:06 pm

I was gonna post something pc about not making fun of the poor bastard, since drinking and driving usually is caused by a deep personal drama. But seeing how that lying cunt is denying everything in court, he deserves anything thrown at him. Show some remorse you pathetic drunk and potential killer!
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:53 pm

mr_nool wrote:I was gonna post something pc about not making fun of the poor bastard, since drinking and driving usually is caused by a deep personal drama. But seeing how that lying cunt is denying everything in court, he deserves anything thrown at him. Show some remorse you pathetic drunk and potential killer!


My post wasn't a joke. If I did what he did I'd hope someone would give me a few slaps and make me remember it.
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby Chinners » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:04 am

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Ray Wilkins' breath test results questioned in drink-drive case
Expert witness for the defence has suggested the breathalyser could have given an "unreliable result"
Results produced by a breathalyser showing that former England footballer Ray Wilkins was three times over the drink-drive limit have been called into question by an expert.
Professor Hugh Makin told Staines Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday that the amount of alcohol in Mr Wilkins’ breath from the two glasses of wine he said he drank earlier in the evening before being arrested near his home in Cobham should have been zero.
Prof Makin told the court there was either a discrepancy in how much Mr Wilkins said he drank or there was an "unreliable result" from the machine.
Magistrates have previously heard that the defendant gave a breath sample of 109 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath at the roadside in the early hours of May 7 last year. The legal limit is 35 microgrammes.
He was taken to Reigate police station, where two further tests using a Home Office-approved Intoximeter breathalysing machine found readings of 102 and 104 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath.
Prof Makin told the court how on examining the CCTV footage of the Mr Wilkins using the breathalyser, he could tell there was a pause of 98 seconds between the first specimen being given and the machine purging itself – clearing any alcohol before the second specimen is given.
“In general times the purge takes 30 seconds but after sample one it took 98 seconds," he said.
"The question I am asking is why? Is it having a problem finding zero? You should have a purge that takes a fixed time.”
Prof Makin also said the logs kept by police officers using the machine were lacking in information, with dates, comments and test numbers not fully recorded.
In cross-examination, prosecutor Paul Lund questioned whether Prof Makin’s evidence was objective.
“There are a range of opinions on the cleaning in this machine,” he said.
Mr Lund explained that a letter sent to Prof Makin in April 2012 had said how any breath sample containing more than 50 microgrammes of alcohol would take the purge time up to 90 seconds.
Prof Makin said he had questions about the contents of the letter, which the manufacturer never replied to him on.
Mr Wilkins denies drink-driving and the case continues.
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:10 am

DoomMerchant wrote:
mr_nool wrote:I was gonna post something pc about not making fun of the poor bastard, since drinking and driving usually is caused by a deep personal drama. But seeing how that lying cunt is denying everything in court, he deserves anything thrown at him. Show some remorse you pathetic drunk and potential killer!


My post wasn't a joke. If I did what he did I'd hope someone would give me a few slaps and make me remember it.


Same here.

They should batter the cunt for his drunk driving as well.
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:14 am

Chinners wrote:*** WILKINS CRAB CAM ***
Ray Wilkins' breath test results questioned in drink-drive case
Expert witness for the defence has suggested the breathalyser could have given an "unreliable result"
Results produced by a breathalyser showing that former England footballer Ray Wilkins was three times over the drink-drive limit have been called into question by an expert.
Professor Hugh Makin told Staines Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday that the amount of alcohol in Mr Wilkins’ breath from the two glasses of wine he said he drank earlier in the evening before being arrested near his home in Cobham should have been zero.
Prof Makin told the court there was either a discrepancy in how much Mr Wilkins said he drank or there was an "unreliable result" from the machine.
Magistrates have previously heard that the defendant gave a breath sample of 109 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath at the roadside in the early hours of May 7 last year. The legal limit is 35 microgrammes.
He was taken to Reigate police station, where two further tests using a Home Office-approved Intoximeter breathalysing machine found readings of 102 and 104 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath.
Prof Makin told the court how on examining the CCTV footage of the Mr Wilkins using the breathalyser, he could tell there was a pause of 98 seconds between the first specimen being given and the machine purging itself – clearing any alcohol before the second specimen is given.
“In general times the purge takes 30 seconds but after sample one it took 98 seconds," he said.
"The question I am asking is why? Is it having a problem finding zero? You should have a purge that takes a fixed time.”
Prof Makin also said the logs kept by police officers using the machine were lacking in information, with dates, comments and test numbers not fully recorded.
In cross-examination, prosecutor Paul Lund questioned whether Prof Makin’s evidence was objective.
“There are a range of opinions on the cleaning in this machine,” he said.
Mr Lund explained that a letter sent to Prof Makin in April 2012 had said how any breath sample containing more than 50 microgrammes of alcohol would take the purge time up to 90 seconds.
Prof Makin said he had questions about the contents of the letter, which the manufacturer never replied to him on.
Mr Wilkins denies drink-driving and the case continues.


This is like OJ Simpson all over again.

He's pissed, he's driving a car, he's on video pissed, he's failed the fucking breath test, ah yes but the machine took an extra 40 seconds..
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Re: Oh my word Ray

Postby Dameerto » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:41 pm

Failed it on THREE machines - I presume the defence is trying to say if the first one was faulty the other two become inadmissible.
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