2022 looks likely to be a Winter World cup

[Ted Hughes]

Having a winter World Cup will mess up 3 seasons for all the European leagues. If they want to move it there permanently, then fine, we can shift the leagues around as well - I'll be quite happy with no games in January when it's freezing.

But they won't. Some will be in summer and some will be in winter. Won't matter to TV viewers, but will matter to millions of fans who go to games everywhere. But I suppose they don't pay FIFA

Not for:
Armenia
Norway
Iceland
Rep. Ireland
Russia (recently begun transition to 'normal' season schedule, so by 2022 it will).
Sweden

That's Europe alone (and an incomplete list, I believe - didn't even bother looking at Faroes, etc.): a Northern Hemisphere continent.

Add the USA, almost all of Oceania and South East Asia, quite a hefty portion of South America, and the fact that many sub-Saharan African countries have a summer break, and you start to see that it's a pretty even split as to whether a summer or winter World Cup would inconvenience more leagues. But I suppose a winter one will inconvenience wealthy leagues in white countries more, so we should all kick up a fuss...

It will inconvenience most.

And those who are paying huge wages to players, without whom Blatter can afford fuck all, are entitled to kick up a fuss.

[BlueinBosnia]

This would mean players basically starting one season directly after finishing another, in order to get it finished in time for the World Cup as there isn't just the tournament to think about, there is also all the time taken by training camps etc, or alternatively, the whole schedule gets changed year in year out so players play in part of the summer.

That's exactly what the Russian league have been doing since 2011 to rearrange their league to the regular European schedule.

[Ted Hughes]

This would mean players basically starting one season directly after finishing another, in order to get it finished in time for the World Cup as there isn't just the tournament to think about, there is also all the time taken by training camps etc, or alternatively, the whole schedule gets changed year in year out so players play in part of the summer.

That's exactly what the Russian league have been doing since 2011 to rearrange their league to the regular European schedule.

Except their top clubs get paid millions to participate & couldn't attract players without it, & we would immediately have to fucking change it back again, as the World Cup following it will be in the summer.

Absolutely disgusting, obviously corrupt situation.

[BlueinBosnia]

This would mean players basically starting one season directly after finishing another, in order to get it finished in time for the World Cup as there isn't just the tournament to think about, there is also all the time taken by training camps etc, or alternatively, the whole schedule gets changed year in year out so players play in part of the summer.

That's exactly what the Russian league have been doing since 2011 to rearrange their league to the regular European schedule.

Except their top clubs get paid millions to participate & couldn't attract players without it, & we would immediately have to fucking change it back again, as the World Cup following it will be in the summer.

There's Euro 2024 before that to deal with.

What a fortuitous coincidence that Euro 2020 will be held throughout Europe, meaning it can be more flexible with dates, don't you think?

[Ted Hughes]

This would mean players basically starting one season directly after finishing another, in order to get it finished in time for the World Cup as there isn't just the tournament to think about, there is also all the time taken by training camps etc, or alternatively, the whole schedule gets changed year in year out so players play in part of the summer.

That's exactly what the Russian league have been doing since 2011 to rearrange their league to the regular European schedule.

Except their top clubs get paid millions to participate & couldn't attract players without it, & we would immediately have to fucking change it back again, as the World Cup following it will be in the summer.

There's Euro 2024 before that to deal with.

What a fortuitous coincidence that Euro 2020 will be held throughout Europe, meaning it can be more flexible with dates, don't you think?

Hmm.

I can't help feeling half of the fuckers running football should be in prison.

[Blue Since 76]

Not for:
Armenia
Norway
Iceland
Rep. Ireland
Russia (recently begun transition to 'normal' season schedule, so by 2022 it will).
Sweden

That's Europe alone (and an incomplete list, I believe - didn't even bother looking at Faroes, etc.): a Northern Hemisphere continent.

Add the USA, almost all of Oceania and South East Asia, quite a hefty portion of South America, and the fact that many sub-Saharan African countries have a summer break, and you start to see that it's a pretty even split as to whether a summer or winter World Cup would inconvenience more leagues. But I suppose a winter one will inconvenience wealthy leagues in white countries more, so we should all kick up a fuss...

By Europe I meant the bit below the arctic circle and where they actually play professional football.

If you read the whole post, I said I haven't got a problem with us moving to summer football to allow winter world cups. Personally, I'd prefer it and I certainly think it should be done at junior football level. But this will just be one World Cup, although once the precedent is set, we'll end up with one in summer followed by one in winter then one in summer again.

I can see a power struggle coming on with this - if the European clubs refused to release their players, you'd have a competition no one was watching. The players wouldn't be happy, but would any of them give up 6 weeks' wages to go and play and possibly risk not having a club to come back to? FIFA therefore can't ride roughshod over UEFA and the European clubs. But it won't backdown when it has the power from the votes of so many tiny federations who'll do what Blatter says.

[Beefymcfc]

I just think there's more to it than this. Although I think it's daft to hold the WC in Qatar, it is common sense to hold it in the winter considering the climate. It's the way it's been done for me and it's quite obvious that Blatter and Co had already decided on a winter tournament prior to them getting it (please don't tell me it wasn't already a formality). Blatter has mentioned a few times that countries like England should have a winter break and this is the perfect way of changing certain countries policies.

Let's not forget, we've just seen the Confederations Cup played in Brazil as a rehearsal for the WC next year. This has been done in the last 3 or 4 Confed Cup's so it wouldn't just mean 1 tournament in Qatar but 2. You may not think it would affect us but I'm pretty sure that come 2021, FIFA will be calling the shots with regard to the 8 teams who perform and want all the best players there. They'll enforce it.

In my humble opinion, FIFA have been looking for other times to stage thier tournaments but they cannot do it due to some FAs running straight through the winter. Qatar is a perfect way to jemmy open the winter break and give FIFA the opportunity to coin it in with another tournament in the winter, probably hosted by countries with a similar climate to that of Qatar.

[Dameerto]

Not only was it decided to hold this in winter at the same time as the bungs were changing hands, it is also another veiled attempt to get the Prem to reduce it's size to 18 teams (which they have wanted us to do before) inorder to reduce the fixtures. The biggest annoyance with the whole procedure is how the slimy little fucler has gone about it from day one.

[Saul Goodman]

How would this even work with the premier league?

[DoomMerchant]

What a corrupt mess FIFA is. Well done for making a.joke of the World Cup.

england is ready to host the fucker ffs
its like footy in the playground and england is the fat kid that is always last pick.
Brazil may have been the wrong choice? no blatter...the demonstrations are from people without a pot to piss in fed up
watching fat tinycocks like ricardo teixeira (havelanges son in law) blatantly using his position for criminal activity while they
have their noses rubbed in it...if he wasnt such a crook hed fire teixeira. it would help a little.

i predict that the 2014 WC will be moved to the US, and i'll be able to convince the family to have the most epic summer holiday ever.

Keep fucking up Brasil and FIFA...keep. fucking. up.

cheers

[zuricity]

What an obnoxious pompous twat Blatter is. He and his mates trouser millions of dollars to get Qatar the world cup - allegedly - and then when he realises it's too hot he wants to fuck up all the european leagues for his poxy tournament - about which I care very little anyway.

I think there's going to be a big clash and FIFA will get told where to go.

It won't work, the German public like to book their skiing holidays a.year in advance , so if they don't turn up at the place they have been holidaying for 'x' number of years, they lose their options on the best rooms in the hotel, the best seats in the 'naked' saunas and steam rooms, their 'stammtisch' at the bars will be taken over. (Tw)atter never thought about this.

Everbody knows the Germans need a full year playing in the Bundesliga with the new World Cup football, six months into the season simply isn't long enough for them.

[Wonderwall]

If you read the whole post, I said I haven't got a problem with us moving to summer football to allow winter world cups. Personally, I'd prefer it and I certainly think it should be done at junior football level.

I can't see us moving cricket to winter! Moving junior football to summer in the uk would seriously affect cricket

[DoomMerchant]

Why are some so precious about "allowing" a World Cup in the winter?

World Cups are for the summers. End of fucking story. Fuck the southern hemisphere and their lopsided seasons and fuck qatar. or as i just developed when i said that out loud -- "Fuckatar."

[phips]

Fuck the southern hemisphere and their lopsided seasons and fuck qatar. or as i just developed when i said that out loud -- "Fuckatar."

It's actually pronounced like "cutter" so that doesn't work.

Cheers

[Slim]

Anyone else get a wry smile when they read an American trying to teach people pronunciations?

[DoomMerchant]

Anyone else get a wry smile when they read an American trying to teach people pronunciations?

Like aussies have any room to talk about pronunciation.

[Slim]

Anyone else get a wry smile when they read an American trying to teach people pronunciations?

Like aussies have any room to talk about pronunciation.

Yep, you're right, but I'm not.

[BlueinBosnia]

Fuck the southern hemisphere and their lopsided seasons and fuck qatar. or as i just developed when i said that out loud -- "Fuckatar."

It's actually pronounced like "cutter" so that doesn't work.

Cheers

Is that how they pronounce it in the Peace Corps?

[Slim]

Fuck the southern hemisphere and their lopsided seasons and fuck qatar. or as i just developed when i said that out loud -- "Fuckatar."

It's actually pronounced like "cutter" so that doesn't work.

Cheers

Is that how they pronounce it in the Peace Corps?

And Aluminium.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

Got spoken to over there for calling the state Michigan as opposed to Mishigan. Apparently Eddinburrow is the capital of Scotland too . Well you live and learn.