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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:29 am

Cracking thread, it has inspired me to research the history of Yugoslavia.

Cheers Cocacolajojo for asking the question as it's something I've often wondered about but was afraid to ask for fear of starting a political debate.
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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:37 am

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Alioune DVToure wrote:Would it be similar in a way to a team from Sarajevo signing two kids from Belfast, one from either side of the divide?


Nah we'd still fcking hate each other ;)


Haha. I think I overcomplicated my hypothetical scenario by making Sarajevo the destination.

Let's say Italy. If an up-the-ra type from West Belfast and an Orange-day drummer from South Belfast ended up playing together for Palermo, chances are they'd room together and become good mates, right? They likely wouldn't see themselves as being as different as they do when they're at home and would have more in common with each other than they would with the Italians.

Is this a reasonable comparison to the way the Slavs all get on?
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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:53 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
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Alioune DVToure wrote:Would it be similar in a way to a team from Sarajevo signing two kids from Belfast, one from either side of the divide?


Nah we'd still fcking hate each other ;)


Haha. I think I overcomplicated my hypothetical scenario by making Sarajevo the destination.

Let's say Italy.[highlight]If an up-the-ra type from West Belfast and an Orange-day drummer from South Belfast ended up playing together for Palermo, chances are they'd room together and become good mates, right?[/highlight]They likely wouldn't see themselves as being as different as they do when they're at home and would have more in common with each other than they would with the Italians.

Is this a reasonable comparison to the way the Slavs all get on?


I wouldn't be too sure about that mate. Fair enough if they had political leanings on opposite sides of the divide but the type you are describing there despise each other, there's a real deep seated hatred there that has been bred in from an early age.
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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby BlueinBosnia » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:24 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:Haha. I think I overcomplicated my hypothetical scenario by making Sarajevo the destination.

Let's say Italy.[highlight]If an up-the-ra type from West Belfast and an Orange-day drummer from South Belfast ended up playing together for Palermo, chances are they'd room together and become good mates, right?[/highlight]They likely wouldn't see themselves as being as different as they do when they're at home and would have more in common with each other than they would with the Italians.

Is this a reasonable comparison to the way the Slavs all get on?


I wouldn't be too sure about that mate. Fair enough if they had political leanings on opposite sides of the divide but the type you are describing there despise each other, there's a real deep seated hatred there that has been bred in from an early age.


Exactly. You're talking more about someone who is Republic-of-Irish and coincidentally a Catholic rooming with someone who is Northern Irish and coincidentally a Protestant. I have a feeling they will be more likely to develop a common bond through Jedward and other cultural delights from the Emerald Isle than form a deep-seated hatred through politics.
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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby Saul Goodman » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:25 am

So Nasti, Dzeko, Jovetic, and Kolarov can all understand each other when they speak in their native tongues?
(i know Nastasic and Kolarov can becuase theyre both Serbian) Is it sorta like Portuguese and Brazilian Portugeuse where theyre different but similar....
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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby BlueinBosnia » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:44 am

Saul Goodman wrote:So Nasti, Dzeko, Jovetic, and Kolarov can all understand each other when they speak in their native tongues?
(i know Nastasic and Kolarov can becuase theyre both Serbian) Is it sorta like Portuguese and Brazilian Portugeuse where theyre different but similar....

No, it's the same language, which is called three different things (plus, occasionally, Montenegrin) primarily for political purposes. Since seceding from Yugoslavia, Croatia has intentionally pursued a policy of "returning the language to its Pure Slavic routes" by inventing new words to replace loanwords, and this is artificially forcing their language to diverge away from the others. This is pretty much the opposite of Brazilian and Portuguese, from what I understand: those languages naturally diverge, and are re-regulated every now and again to keep them more similar.

In BiH, the language is called Bosnian or Croatian in latin alphabet, and Serbian in cyrillic (a policy I personally disagree with). So cigarette health warnings are published three times, saying exactly the same thing, twice in latinic, and once in cyrillic. The whole country uses the same major dialect, but calls the spoken language three different things. In contrast, Croatia has parts that use each of the three major dialects of the language that was once called 'Serbo-Croatian', but yet it is all considered one language.
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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby Duckman » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:18 am

Cocacolajojo wrote:This goes out to Bib, Duckman, Cit.Revenge and others who know anything:

How is it that the countries of former Yugoslavia spent several years killing each other in quite gruesome and meticulous ways, but whenever people from the different republics of the Balkans of today end up at City, they gang together like it ain't no thing. I remember seeing the video when Dzeko joined and Kolarov was waiting for him. Jovetic called Nastacic to enquire about City. It seems that the war is a thing of the past. Is it like that among the regular people who aren't paid millions to kick a ball around as well or is this a football thing?


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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby Cit.revenge » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:42 am

Duckman wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:This goes out to Bib, Duckman, Cit.Revenge and others who know anything:

How is it that the countries of former Yugoslavia spent several years killing each other in quite gruesome and meticulous ways, but whenever people from the different republics of the Balkans of today end up at City, they gang together like it ain't no thing. I remember seeing the video when Dzeko joined and Kolarov was waiting for him. Jovetic called Nastacic to enquire about City. It seems that the war is a thing of the past. Is it like that among the regular people who aren't paid millions to kick a ball around as well or is this a football thing?


friendship and love will always prevail ;)

With our idiotic leaders i really doubt it .But hey there is always hope :) Like George say in Seinfeld -"So u give up on hope" George- "Its my only hope" .
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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby Duckman » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:27 am

Cit.revenge wrote:
Duckman wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:This goes out to Bib, Duckman, Cit.Revenge and others who know anything:

How is it that the countries of former Yugoslavia spent several years killing each other in quite gruesome and meticulous ways, but whenever people from the different republics of the Balkans of today end up at City, they gang together like it ain't no thing. I remember seeing the video when Dzeko joined and Kolarov was waiting for him. Jovetic called Nastacic to enquire about City. It seems that the war is a thing of the past. Is it like that among the regular people who aren't paid millions to kick a ball around as well or is this a football thing?


friendship and love will always prevail ;)

With our idiotic leaders i really doubt it .But hey there is always hope :) Like George say in Seinfeld -"So u give up on hope" George- "Its my only hope" .


those leaders got nothing to do with friendship and love. it's up to us, individuals, maaaaan ;)
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Re: Players from the Balkans

Postby Cit.revenge » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:40 pm

Duckman wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:
Duckman wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:This goes out to Bib, Duckman, Cit.Revenge and others who know anything:

How is it that the countries of former Yugoslavia spent several years killing each other in quite gruesome and meticulous ways, but whenever people from the different republics of the Balkans of today end up at City, they gang together like it ain't no thing. I remember seeing the video when Dzeko joined and Kolarov was waiting for him. Jovetic called Nastacic to enquire about City. It seems that the war is a thing of the past. Is it like that among the regular people who aren't paid millions to kick a ball around as well or is this a football thing?


friendship and love will always prevail ;)

With our idiotic leaders i really doubt it .But hey there is always hope :) Like George say in Seinfeld -"So u give up on hope" George- "Its my only hope" .


those leaders got nothing to do with friendship and love. it's up to us, individuals, maaaaan ;)

Ok maaaaaan :D if u say so maaaaan :D
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