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[Breks]

No it isnt, check with the boundary commission and the Royal mail they will advise you. The boundaries of the historic county of Lancashire never changed. Hence when the when us or the rags have played leeds the commentators call it war of the roses or lancashire v yorkshire. Lancashire cricket club home ground is old trafford. We had the lancashire rose on our badge up until 97. We changed it due to not being able to register it as a trademark. Common misconception that greater manchester is a county just as it is with merseyside. Do your homework and you will find what i said is correct.

[Beefymcfc]

No it isnt, check with the boundary commission and the Royal mail they will advise you. The boundaries of the historic county of Lancashire never changed. Hence when the when us or the rags have played leeds the commentators call it war of the roses or lancashire v yorkshire. Lancashire cricket club home ground is old trafford. We had the lancashire rose on our badge up until 97. We changed it due to not being able to register it as a trademark. Common misconception that greater manchester is a county just as it is with merseyside. Do your homework and you will find what i said is correct.

I won't be an arse about it pal, just leave you to do your homework. I used to think the same (due to Oldham'ers saying they were from Manchester) so did a bit of legwork. If I'm wrong, I don't mind at all.

All quotes from Wiki:

The county was subject to a significant boundary reform in 1974,[4] which removed Liverpool and Manchester with most of their surrounding conurbations to form part of the metropolitan counties of Merseyside and Greater Manchester respectively.[5] At this time, the detached northern part of Lancashire in the Lake District, including the Furness Peninsula and Cartmel, was made part of Cumbria. Today the county borders Cumbria, Greater Manchester, Merseyside and North and West Yorkshire. The Duchy of Lancaster exercises the right of the Crown in the area known as the County Palatine of Lancaster, which includes Lancashire as well as parts of Greater Manchester and Merseyside.

The Local Government Act 1972 reformed local government in England by creating a system of two-tier metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties and districts throughout the country.[40] The act formally established Greater Manchester on 1 April 1974, although Greater Manchester County Council (GMCC) had been running since elections in 1973.[42]

The whole of England is divided into 48 ceremonial counties, which are also known as geographic counties. Many of these counties have their origins in antiquity,[3] although some were established as recently as 1974.[4] Outside Greater London and the Isles of Scilly.

England is also divided into 83 metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties. These correspond to areas used for the purposes of local government and may consist of a single district or be divided into several. As of April 2009, 27 such counties are divided into districts and have a county council.

Most ceremonial counties correspond to a metropolitan or non-metropolitan county of the same name, but often with reduced boundaries.

The current arrangement is the result of incremental reform; from 1974 to 1996 the metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties corresponded directly with the ceremonial counties. From 1889 to 1974 areas with county councils were known as administrative counties and ceremonial counties were defined separately.[5]

And it was when I met this appointment when it finally clicked:

The Lord Lieutenant of Greater Manchester is the representative of the monarch, Queen Elizabeth II in the metropolitan county of Greater Manchester in North West England.[1]

The office was created on 1 April 1974.[1] Before 1974 the area had been covered by the Lord Lieutenant of Lancashire, the Lord Lieutenant of Cheshire, and a small part by the Lord Lieutenant of the West Riding of Yorkshire. The role of the Lord Lieutenant is to "first and foremost ... to uphold the dignity of the Crown".[1] The Lord Lieutenant also acts as Keeper of the Rolls.[1] It also promoted the work of voluntary service and benevolent organisations.

The Lord Lieutenant is aided in his office by over 70 Deputy Lieutenants.[1]

[urlnp=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom#England]List of English Counties[/urlnp]

Just to keep it inline with the sporting theme:

Cricket

Lancashire County Cricket Club has been one of the most successful county cricket teams, particularly in the one-day game. It is home to England cricket team member James Anderson. Due to changes in the county boundaries, the club's home ground, County Ground, Old Trafford,[41] is now outside the county of Lancashire, being in the metropolitan borough of Trafford, Greater Manchester.

Historically important local cricket leagues include the Lancashire League, the Central Lancashire League and the North Lancashire and Cumbria League, all of which were formed in 1892. These league clubs hire international professional players to play alongside their amateur players.[citation needed]

Since 2000, the designated ECB Premier League[42] for Lancashire has been the Liverpool and District Cricket Competition.

Football

Football in Lancashire is governed by the Lancashire County Football Association. Due to the County Football Associations being aligned roughly along historic county boundaries, the Lancashire County FA contains members which were founded within Lancashire as it was in the late 19th century, but which now lie outside the county borders, such as Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Everton and Wigan Athletic. However, the Manchester Football Association and Liverpool County Football Association operate in Greater Manchester and Merseyside respectively.[43][44]

Back to the football. 6-0 by the way ;-)

[Breks]

Wikipedia really? Oh come on now, I've read more accurate articles in the daily sport. I will just rest in the knowledge that Manchester City is the only club in Manchester and is a good old lancashire club who are going to regain the premier league title.

[BlueinBosnia]

Wikipedia really? Oh come on now, I've read more accurate articles in the daily sport. I will just rest in the knowledge that Manchester City is the only club in Manchester and is a good old lancashire club who are going to regain the premier league title.

Wikipedia is generally considered an adequate source for facts.

So far, it's Wikipedia and one poster's consensus (plus mine now, so two) versus one poster's opinion. Got anything to prove Wikipedia's wrong?

I agree with you insofar as Lancashire is a 'historic county', but Greater Manchester is undeniably a county, both de jure and de facto.

[Beefymcfc]

Wikipedia really? Oh come on now, I've read more accurate articles in the daily sport. I will just rest in the knowledge that Manchester City is the only club in Manchester and is a good old lancashire club who are going to regain the premier league title.

Wiki is the 'King of Kings' when it comes to getting things across. If you want me to go back to the LGA 72 or SELNEC, GMCC or GMCA then give me a shout, it's such great reading (not).

You're right about the rest though, and I'm pleased to see you wear the Red Rose with pride.

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[Beefymcfc]

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[Breks]

Whilst i was at University I was advised by the my lecturers never to use quotes from wikipedia as the accuracy of the info on there cannot be guranteed. I could quote plenty of statements by government departments and ministers but i don't want to clog up the thread. I would urge you to read more widely on the subject and you will find that Manchester is still part of the Historic county of lancashire. Lancashire county council is not the administrative council for plenty of lancashire towns such as , blackpool, bury, blackburn. However they are still lancashire towns. I do wear the red rose with pride as well as my City shirts. I'm proud to be a fan of a world class club and even when we where a poor side i was still proud to be a fan.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Wikipedia really? Oh come on now, I've read more accurate articles in the daily sport. I will just rest in the knowledge that Manchester City is the only club in Manchester and is a good old lancashire club who are going to regain the premier league title.

Quite right. I'm from Lancashire and so is my team.
Greater Manchester my arse!

[Beefymcfc]

Whilst i was at University I was advised by the my lecturers never to use quotes from wikipedia as the accuracy of the info on there cannot be guranteed. I could quote plenty of statements by government departments and ministers but i don't want to clog up the thread. I would urge you to read more widely on the subject and you will find that Manchester is still part of the Historic county of lancashire. Lancashire county council is not the administrative council for plenty of lancashire towns such as , blackpool, bury, blackburn. However they are still lancashire towns. I do wear the red rose with pride as well as my City shirts. I'm proud to be a fan of a world class club and even when we where a poor side i was still proud to be a fan.

When I was a kid my dad told me not to listen to people who take advice from other people and then use that advice to try and prove them wrong.

Clog up the thread if you want but as of now, you haven't really proven anything, have you. Big statements, no fact.

Manchester may well be still considered as part of the historic (note the word 'historic') County of Lancashire but the fact remains that Greater Manchester is a county in it's own right. Like I said mate, Wiki is your friend or if not, pop down to Manchester Library, it's not hidden you know.

And to finish, a statement from Manchester City Council official .gov website:

Please note that City Library and the Greater Manchester County Record Office will be closing temporarily between September 2013 and Spring 2014 in order to prepare for our big move to the new Central Library.

You don't have to look far pal ;-)

[aaron bond]

Whilst i was at University I was advised by the my lecturers never to use quotes from wikipedia as the accuracy of the info on there cannot be guranteed. I could quote plenty of statements by government departments and ministers but i don't want to clog up the thread. I would urge you to read more widely on the subject and you will find that Manchester is still part of the Historic county of lancashire. Lancashire county council is not the administrative council for plenty of lancashire towns such as , blackpool, bury, blackburn. However they are still lancashire towns. I do wear the red rose with pride as well as my City shirts. I'm proud to be a fan of a world class club and even when we where a poor side i was still proud to be a fan.

When I was a kid my dad told me not to listen to people who take advice from other people and then use that advice to try and prove them wrong.

Clog up the thread if you want but as of now, you haven't really proven anything, have you. Big statements, no fact.

Manchester may well be still considered as part of the historic (note the word 'historic') County of Lancashire but the fact remains that Greater Manchester is a county in it's own right. Like I said mate, Wiki is your friend or if not, pop down to Manchester Library, it's not hidden you know.

Beefy is right.

[Beefymcfc]

Beefy is right.

Cheers bud, I aim to please. I wouldn't have bothered if he/she wasn't being so full of themselves.

Now't wrong with making statements when you've been here a few weeks, but at least ensure they are based on fact, not what your lecturer told you.

[Breks]

I don't see any facts posted by you either. Answer me this, why did we have a Lancashire rose on our badge right upto 1997?

[Beefymcfc]

I don't see any facts posted by you either. Answer me this, why did we have a Lancashire rose on our badge right upto 1997?

I'm not telling you that as well.

The question should be 'Why wasn't it used afterwards?'.

[aaron bond]

There's some info here and a link showing a 'Map of the UK counties'.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/ ... index.html

[Breks]

It wasn't used afterwards as it could not be used as a trademark thats why. This years Lancashire senior Cup final was contested by us and the Rags. Why was that? Answer is obvious to me. Only Lancashire clubs take part in the Lancashire Cup.

[Breks]

Match was played on 6/08/13 and match report is on www.mcfc.co.uk. Argue all you want facts will never change despite what you say.Manchester is in Lancashire, simples.

[aaron bond]

Match was played on 6/08/13 and match report is on http://www.mcfc.co.uk. Argue all you want facts will never change despite what you say.Manchester is in Lancashire, simples.

For crying out loud, no one is saying the historic Lancashire boundaries have changed.

You, however, denied Greater Manchester is a county, which is incorrect. Where is your evidence to support this?

[Beefymcfc]

Match was played on 6/08/13 and match report is on http://www.mcfc.co.uk. Argue all you want facts will never change despite what you say.Manchester is in Lancashire, simples.

You need to get back in your sangar mate. You've lost the battle, don't lose the war ;-)

[Breks]

My point is Manchester City is a Lancashire club. My sangar duties are over for good, thank fuck. I don't know what point you tried to make but I haven't lost no battle. Greater Manchester only exists for purely adminsistrative purposes it isn't a real County.