CL Pots & Draw

[AG7]

So we are confirmed in Pot 3 now for Thursday's draw ... and depending on tomorrow's results Juve could move out of pot 3 into pot 2 ...

Group of death coming right up:
Barcelona / Juventus / City / Leverkusen

But at the same time this could happen too ... Benfica / Marseille / City / Austria Wien (yeah, right)

[PeterParker]

Here are the seedings: http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uef ... l2013.html

We will have another shitty group.

I reckon Bayern again.

[Beefymcfc]

Thursday at 1645 hrs is it? Sometimes helps to know when it is.

[PeterParker]

Thursday at 1645 hrs is it? Sometimes helps to know when it is.

Yes, but it will be at Monaco.

[Nigels Tackle]

fuck seedings, fuck the daft not from same country rule and give me

rags, chelsea and arsenal

we'd smash it in that group

[Saul Goodman]

Umm.....

[CTID Hants]

Umm.....

Slightly off topic and apologies to the OP, but I have to ask.... Why was 'Saul Goodman' posting as a Cardiff fan on one of their forums over the weekend???

Back on topic, the draw UK time, will 'start' at 17:45 but all the bollox that goes with it means the draw in earnest will actually get rolling some 20+ minutes later and then drag on some while, so by about 18:45ish we will know our full fate.

I think I went B Munich, Juventus & a Russian or Ukrainian team in the season prediction league!

[BlueinBosnia]

Umm.....

Slightly off topic and apologies to the OP, but I have to ask.... Why was 'Saul Goodman' posting as a Cardiff fan on one of their forums over the weekend???

I'd hazard a guess that it isn't exactly the least popular online nickname in the world over the past 2-3 years...

[Redna]

So thats Schalke, Olympiacos and Copenhagen for the filth then.

We´ll end up with Barcelona, PSG and Napoli.

It's a fix.

CTID!!

[Wonderwall]

Good article on it here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23680545

[Green & Blue]

I can't see anything other than a difficult draw again but at least it's exciting.

Uefa are a joke the way they safeguard the established european teams ensuring favourable draws year on year to protect the status of these teams.How on earth Arsenal can be considered a team deserving of a place in the top pot is anyones guess.They have not managed a top two league finish since 04/05 yet they deserve to be considered one europes elite?

[Moonchesteri]

Good article on it here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23680545

brilliant article, thanks for posting that here

[Breks]

We have not earned the right to be in pot 1 yet. I hope we get a hard group and win it then we can show the world we mean business. I hope we get barca, i want to see us play the best teams. Were in pot 3 so lets deal with it.

[Herb]

We have not earned the right to be in pot 1 yet. I hope we get a hard group and win it then we can show the world we mean business. I hope we get barca, i want to see us play the best teams. Were in pot 3 so lets deal with it.

I don't think that you've quite grasped the inequality of a system designed to give advantage to the old established order - we all want to see our team play the best but would quite like to see that happen in the latter stages rather than as a Custers last stand affair with everything loaded against us in the group stages group of death.

[Breks]

The old established order have earned the right to be in pot 1 whether we like that fact or not. The better you do in europe the better your co-efficient rating gets, its simple and theres nothing wrong with that. We have to earn the right to be in a easier group. Stop whinging and be glad were in the group stages.

[sheblue]

ah i see the good old group of death shite is back, wont sky just love milking it.

[ross.mcfc]

I'm living 30 minutes away from Copenhagen so that would be the dream draw for me. Sadly CL games are the only games I may get to this year so anything in the north of Germany or Poland would suit me down to the ground.

[BlueinBosnia]

The old established order have earned the right to be in pot 1 whether we like that fact or not. The better you do in europe the better your co-efficient rating gets, its simple and theres nothing wrong with that. We have to earn the right to be in a easier group. Stop whinging and be glad were in the group stages.

I agree with the sentiments here, but the coefficients are slightly untoward. They take a long time to build up, and also a long time to lose. I read somewhere last season that it would take something like 11 or 12 seasons of finishing bottom of the groups for Barcelona to lose their Pot 1 seeding. Likewise, domestic performance (apart from the qualifying for UEFA competitions aspect) is not taken into account, leading to the situation where Arsenal - provided they finish in the Top 4 in the league - will have a higher UEFA coefficient than us for quite a few years to come, still.

[Michael Brookes]

Meh.. if we're good enough we'll progress, if not then we don't deserve to.. irrespective of quality of competition.

[Breks]

Thats because Barca have gained such a high co-efficient rating by being successful in europe. Arsenal have been in champs league for last 17 seasons. They have been in quarter finals, semi finals and a final. Their high ratings have been earned.