Herb wrote:I've been interested in how he was getting on at Villa: for the most part they seem to consider him 'daft as a brush', and/or a waste of space, but he has had his 'loyalists'
But it did surprise me when he won their 'Player of the Season'
You should remember that Stevie Ireland was voted player of the season as a deliberate sarcastic response by the many Villa fans who were appalled at how he could drop from being a promising player with occasional flashes of brilliance (with us) to being a shit player with regular occasional flashes of average once signed by them.
At the time, there was much talk about the fact that he gained PotS virtue of him being the most deplored player at the club. The reasoning now seems to be fading away leaving him with an undeserved accolade!
TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:Herb wrote:I've been interested in how he was getting on at Villa: for the most part they seem to consider him 'daft as a brush', and/or a waste of space, but he has had his 'loyalists'
But it did surprise me when he won their 'Player of the Season'
You should remember that Stevie Ireland was voted player of the season as a deliberate sarcastic response by the many Villa fans who were appalled at how he could drop from being a promising player with occasional flashes of brilliance (with us) to being a shit player with regular occasional flashes of average once signed by them.
At the time, there was much talk about the fact that he gained PotS virtue of him being the most deplored player at the club. The reasoning now seems to be fading away leaving him with an undeserved accolade!
I wasn't aware of that: I only intermittently looked in on the Villa fans forum, after those early days: I suppose what you say makes a lot of sense, although they didn't seem to have much good to say about any of their midfield or forward players.
Herb wrote:TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:Herb wrote:I've been interested in how he was getting on at Villa: for the most part they seem to consider him 'daft as a brush', and/or a waste of space, but he has had his 'loyalists'
But it did surprise me when he won their 'Player of the Season'
You should remember that Stevie Ireland was voted player of the season as a deliberate sarcastic response by the many Villa fans who were appalled at how he could drop from being a promising player with occasional flashes of brilliance (with us) to being a shit player with regular occasional flashes of average once signed by them.
At the time, there was much talk about the fact that he gained PotS virtue of him being the most deplored player at the club. The reasoning now seems to be fading away leaving him with an undeserved accolade!
I wasn't aware of that: I only intermittently looked in on the Villa fans forum, after those early days: I suppose what you say makes a lot of sense, although they didn't seem to have much good to say about any of their midfield or forward players.
I doubt I'd have been aware myself were it not for it being poked around on the forums at the time - more out of appreciation of the humour of the villa fans than anything else. I suppose that with our history we have a natural affinity with fans who smooth the rough ride by having a laugh about it.
It's all a bit sad really, I thought he was the bees knees at one time because he was actually something quite special to us - then he became special to himself and chose to take a hike across his own special reality.
I guess that Stevie boy himself will have the last laugh as the reasoning behind his Player of the Year award will be lost in the mists of time but the honour will stay with him (other than amongst Villa fans).
Ted Hughes wrote:The one season where Ireland covered the pitch like Fernandinho, after being a fairly peripheral, non energetic player previously, suddenly finds a huge well of previously undiscovered running power, then suddenly collapses at the start of the next season & has to go to hospital, but we never find out why, then the 'energy' disappears. Add that to often bizarre behaviour.
Well call me cynical, but if it looks like a fish, smells like a fish...
littlebig wrote:
Yes, he has talent, shined for a while. But it's all driven by the mental aspect which he lost completely. His head got too big and he couldn't get it back, the fact that he's clearly not the brightest wouldn't have helped. Hard to feel sympathy here
TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:"However the media quickly discovered that Ireland's grandmother was not dead, at which point Ireland announced it was his paternal grandmother who died but yet again, reporters discovered that Ireland's paternal grandmother was also still alive, and her relatives had threatened to sue one newspaper that reported her death. Ireland changed his story again, saying one of his grandfathers had divorced, and it was his second wife who had died. That was also quickly discovered to be untrue."[32]
I'm not sure is this a wind-up; I certainly never heard the 'divorce' bit!
(from Wiki) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Ireland
Jorgobot wrote:TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:"However the media quickly discovered that Ireland's grandmother was not dead, at which point Ireland announced it was his paternal grandmother who died but yet again, reporters discovered that Ireland's paternal grandmother was also still alive, and her relatives had threatened to sue one newspaper that reported her death. Ireland changed his story again, saying one of his grandfathers had divorced, and it was his second wife who had died. That was also quickly discovered to be untrue."[32]
I'm not sure is this a wind-up; I certainly never heard the 'divorce' bit!
(from Wiki) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Ireland
Is he dumb? Wat is going on
TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:Looks like he's on his way to Stoke - for a season-long loan
I seem to recall him bad-mouthing Hughes after Mancini's arrival - and his departure to Villa
I wonder does Hughes read the newspapers?
sheblue wrote:TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:Looks like he's on his way to Stoke - for a season-long loan
I seem to recall him bad-mouthing Hughes after Mancini's arrival - and his departure to Villa
I wonder does Hughes read the newspapers?
Name one person Stephen Ireland has not bad mouthed.
Tokyo Blue wrote:sheblue wrote:TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:Looks like he's on his way to Stoke - for a season-long loan
I seem to recall him bad-mouthing Hughes after Mancini's arrival - and his departure to Villa
I wonder does Hughes read the newspapers?
Name one person Stephen Ireland has not bad mouthed.
Engelbert Humperdinck.
dazby wrote:It's no coincidence that the moment he came good coincided with Robinho's arrival. The two looked for and found each other, regularly. I am convinced to this day, that if he'd have stayed and played with Dave, he'd have kept his level.
sheblue wrote:TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:Looks like he's on his way to Stoke - for a season-long loan
I seem to recall him bad-mouthing Hughes after Mancini's arrival - and his departure to Villa
I wonder does Hughes read the newspapers?
Name one person Stephen Ireland has not bad mouthed.
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maddog fenton wrote:TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:<null>
U joking, did you see her on come dine with me, I was slagging her off
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