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Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:18 pm

Warm and dry today for a change and decent viewing as they were using the pitch at the Sale Sharks side.Again the EDS and under 18's were at Carrington at the same time which seems a good idea and obviously what will happen at the new complex.The coaches were already out measuring and marking areas for the planned work.Very meticulous stuff.

When the players came out it was more or less in one big group rather than the dribs and drabs of past times and one of the players had a massive bandage on his knee/leg.All into the usual manager briefing before a few went off for individual work leaving 18 plus 3 keepers out for the session.Marcos Lopes was included.All the usual jogs and warm ups followed which ended with a couple of keep ball circles.Micah sounded quite pleased as his group got to 32 completed passes.That's based on his counting anyway.

Then off to play a pass/move/pressing game in two teams on a marked smallish pitch.Not sure what rules there were but on a couple of occasions the "losing" team had to do press ups.After this almost all the team from Tuesday went inside leaving enough for some attack against defence work.A good strong session too.Pellegrini does more work like this than RM did where there is a defence in place rather than just doing shadow plays.

Initially it was a 2v 2 situation with the ball coming in from wide either high or low and great emphasis placed on good sharp movement from the attackers to find space and from that goalscoring situations.Never easy when one of the defenders is Vinnie who is very uncompromising as we all know.Saying that it must be a nightmare trying to stop Samir with his ability to twist and turn but stay in full control all the time.

Navas marked by Kolarov was always going to be interesting and I have to say Aleks was pretty good.Navas does cross a great ball though and hopefully his ability will raise the bar for the rest as we have never been a top crossing side..Best goal in this session was from Negredo and I have no doubt we will see one in a match soon where he puts in in the top corner curling in from outside the post.

This session moved onto 3v3 and then 4v4 but was always a tight intense affair and closely watched by Pellegrini and his assistant.That ended and they went into a 5 a side game on a small pitch prepared earlier.As you would expect there were plenty of goals with just one man scoring a hat trick and every outfield player scoring at least one in a game that ended 7.5.No quarter given in this game either. Panti took some blows blocking point blank shots,Joe showed as ever how quick off the line he can be,Vinnie screaming at one point as he slightly overhit a pass.They all finished knackered and sat in a group with the coaches having a chat as I moved around to see the EDS in action.

Not for long but enough to see Pozo back in full training and Alex Henshall back with the group (did he finish at Chesterfield or get an injury?) Just one goal while I watched this and a nice header too from Bytyqi from a Cole cross.That as it for me but as I left and all the outfield players had gone in Joe and Panti were still hard at it.An enjoyable watch today but I was knackered as well
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby AG7 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:23 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Warm and dry today for a change and decent viewing as they were using the pitch at the Sale Sharks side.Again the EDS and under 18's were at Carrington at the same time which seems a good idea and obviously what will happen at the new complex.The coaches were already out measuring and marking areas for the planned work.Very meticulous stuff. When the players came out it was more or less in one big group rather than the dribs and drabs of past times and one of the players had a massive bandage on his knee/leg.All into the usual manager briefing before a few went off for individual work leaving 18 plus 3 keepers out for the session.Marcos Lopes was included.All the usual jogs and warm ups followed which ended with a couple of keep ball circles.Micah sounded quite pleased as his group got to 32 completed passes.That's based on his counting anyway. Then off to play a pass/move/pressing game in two teams on a marked smallish pitch.Not sure what rules there were but on a couple of occasions the "losing" team had to do press ups.After this almost all the team from Tuesday went inside leaving enough for some attack against defence work.A good strong session too.Pellegrini does more work like this than RM did where there is a defence in place rather than just doing shadow plays. Initially it was a 2v 2 situation with the ball coming in from wide either high or low and great emphasis placed on good sharp movement from the attackers to find space and from that goalscoring situations.Never easy when one of the defenders is Vinnie who is very uncompromising as we all know.Saying that it must be a nightmare trying to stop Samir with his ability to twist and turn but stay in full control all the time. Navas marked by Kolarov was always going to be interesting and I have to say Aleks was pretty good.Navas does cross a great ball though and hopefully his ability will raise the bar for the rest as we have never been a top crossing side..Best goal in this session was from Negredo and I have no doubt we will see one in a match soon where he puts in in the top corner curling in from outside the post. This session moved onto 3v3 and then 4v4 but was always a tight intense affair and closely watched by Pellegrini and his assistant.That ended and they went into a 5 a side game on a small pitch prepared earlier.As you would expect there were plenty of goals with just one man scoring a hat trick and every outfield player scoring at least one in a game that ended 7.5.No quarter given in this game either. Panti took some blows blocking point blank shots,Joe showed as ever how quick off the line he can be,Vinnie screaming at one point as he slightly overhit a pass.They all finished knackered and sat in a group with the coaches having a chat as I moved around to see the EDS in action. Not for long but enough to see Pozo back in full training and Alex Henshall back with the group (did he finish at Chesterfield or get an injury?) Just one goal while I watched this and a nice header too from Bytyqi from a Cole cross.That as it for me but as I left and all the outfield players had gone in Joe and Panti were still hard at it.An enjoyable watch today but I was knackered as well


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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby gmercer1 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:35 pm

Great write up. Thanks Doug.
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Breks » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:17 pm

Very good read. Nice one
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:23 pm

Thanks Doug. Enjoyed reading that.
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby john68 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:29 pm

Thanks from me Doug.
A couple of question, if you don't mind mate.

What seems to be the general mood of the players and coaches during training?
Are there groups of players who seem to relate more with each other or are they a pretty integrated bunch?
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Risby » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:29 pm

Cheers Doug, always good to know what is going on.
It all sounds very good and productive.
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:40 pm

john68 wrote:Thanks from me Doug.
A couple of question, if you don't mind mate.

What seems to be the general mood of the players and coaches during training?
Are there groups of players who seem to relate more with each other or are they a pretty integrated bunch?


The mood's great John or it certainly look's that way from where I am watching.I haven't watched as often as in the past but I would say I liked the simple fact that they have all come out together in the last few occasions rather than filtering out in 1's and 2's and seemingly taking an age for them all to get out there.It just feels and looks better to me and makes me feel they are up for it.

It's inevitable there are players who congregate together a little more than others due to the language issue.Certainly the eastern euro boys do as you might expect and Jovetic mentioned that in his first interview saying how well they had helped him settle in.On any given day though I wouldn't say I see the same little groups chatting together all the time.They really do seem to get on well together
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby littlebig » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:25 pm

Thanks Douglas
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Saul Goodman » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:31 pm

I know you mentioned it briefly in this report and it may be too early to tell but what are the differences between Mancini and Manuel in training? Not only regarding the activities that the players do but also the manager's involvement in the proceedings...

Thanks for a good read
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:49 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:I know you mentioned it briefly in this report and it may be too early to tell but what are the differences between Mancini and Manuel in training? Not only regarding the activities that the players do but also the manager's involvement in the proceedings...

Thanks for a good read


Both managers are very hands on in their approach.Not just watching from very close up but also they might each stop proceedings.It's hard to tell whether that's because they aren't going about things as they should or whether something specific has happened that needed talking about and maybe changing.One difference is that I could hear Mancini from a distance even if I couldn't tell what he was saying whereas I can't hear Pellegrini unless I am close.

All the basics in terms of warm ups and various simple routines are much the same as I expect they would be at any club.The key difference I have seen so far ( and bear in mind I haven't seen that many sessions) is Pellegrini doesn't seem to do many shadow routines where attacking moves are worked through with no defenders in place.So far every time it's been a "real" situation where defenders give their all to stop the attacks from succeeding.

Also so far I haven't seen any players staying back for extras like free kicks but that's down to me missing my pre season work and lacking stamina.I would love to see Yaya working on his free kicks with Kolarov.So far, in all the time I have watched training I have never seen Yaya stay to practice free kicks.
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby PrezIke » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:45 pm

great stuff doug.

the last bit you described, with 5 v 5 on a small pitch seems quite interesting. the obvious point i gather is that pelligrini is trying to get the team accustomed to a more uptempo game with such training. yet, this also gives our defenders and keepers some real challenging material to work with, which could lead to frustration and a good test for them that you could expect against top teams, particularly with the hope we make it to the later rounds of champions league.

on your note about the players coming out together for training, i wonder if that is coming from the manager or more about the team being more together than last year.

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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby dazby » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:54 pm

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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby phips » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:07 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:I know you mentioned it briefly in this report and it may be too early to tell but what are the differences between Mancini and Manuel in training? Not only regarding the activities that the players do but also the manager's involvement in the proceedings...

Thanks for a good read


Both managers are very hands on in their approach.Not just watching from very close up but also they might each stop proceedings.It's hard to tell whether that's because they aren't going about things as they should or whether something specific has happened that needed talking about and maybe changing.One difference is that I could hear Mancini from a distance even if I couldn't tell what he was saying whereas I can't hear Pellegrini unless I am close.

All the basics in terms of warm ups and various simple routines are much the same as I expect they would be at any club.The key difference I have seen so far ( and bear in mind I haven't seen that many sessions) is Pellegrini doesn't seem to do many shadow routines where attacking moves are worked through with no defenders in place.So far every time it's been a "real" situation where defenders give their all to stop the attacks from succeeding.

Also so far I haven't seen any players staying back for extras like free kicks but that's down to me missing my pre season work and lacking stamina.I would love to see Yaya working on his free kicks with Kolarov.So far, in all the time I have watched training I have never seen Yaya stay to practice free kicks.

doesn't Yaya practice his free kicks with Nasri like we saw in 1 InsideCity episode? thats why he always celebrates his free kick goals with Nasri, even if he's on the touchline.
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Biamp » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:43 am

phips wrote: doesn't Yaya practice his free kicks with Nasri like we saw in 1 InsideCity episode? thats why he always celebrates his free kick goals with Nasri, even if he's on the touchline.


I was thinking the same. Keep in mind it wasn't proper free kicks, there was no wall or goalkeeper. Cheers Doug, great read.
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:45 am

Biamp wrote:
phips wrote: doesn't Yaya practice his free kicks with Nasri like we saw in 1 InsideCity episode? thats why he always celebrates his free kick goals with Nasri, even if he's on the touchline.


I was thinking the same. Keep in mind it wasn't proper free kicks, there was no wall or goalkeeper. Cheers Doug, great read.


He probably does but as I said never while I have been watching this season or past seasons.Maybe he comes back for extras in the afternoon!
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:49 am

dazby wrote:Hi Doug.

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Thanks Doug.


Tired Dazzler? I have seen very little of him but from the little I have seen he is a very accomplished footballer who will fit in well with the class around him.Good touch,awareness.Not quite Silva with goals but that sort of player.
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Biamp » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:51 am

Doug, is Silva back yet? Or at least fully involved??
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:53 am

Biamp wrote:Doug, is Silva back yet? Or at least fully involved??


He was there for the manager briefing but then went off to work 1 on 1 with physios probably inside so not quite ready yet I think.
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Re: Training Thursday 26/9

Postby Biamp » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:56 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote: He was there for the manager briefing but then went off to work 1 on 1 with physios probably inside so not quite ready yet I think.
So does that make the Bayern's game not a realistic target for his comeback??
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