Bobby to Galatasaray

[Foreverinbluedreams]

And how did he do spending circa €30million NET on players in his four years at Inter?

Chequebook manager indeed.

It kinda counts when you take over the best team in the league by a country mile

Who kinda counts what?

"best team in the league by a country mile" who are we talking about here? City?

[Foreverinbluedreams]

[quote="Colin the King"][quote="Foreverinbluedreams"][quote="Socrates"][quote="phips"]i wonder how he will do now that he cant just throw money at every problem.[/quote]

How did he do at bankrupt Fiorentina and with small money at Lazio?[/quote]

And how did he do spending circa €30million NET on players in his four years at Inter?

Chequebook manager indeed.[/quote]

Can't wait for the "he may have won three titles in a row, but they didn't count" argument.[/quote]

Ha. I was thinking that someone would come up with that argument as I typed.

[BlueinBosnia]

i wonder how he will do now that he cant just throw money at every problem.

How did he do at bankrupt Fiorentina and with small money at Lazio?

Well, he left Fiorentina languishing in the relegation zone midway through the season, winning 22% of league games in charge during his 10 month tenure. He did win the Coppa Italia the previous season, getting a bye to the last 16, where they thrashed semi-pro Salernitana 8-1, before beating Brescia, AC Milan and Parma. The season he left, they got knocked out in the round of 32 by Serie C giants Calcio Como 4-0 on aggregate.

It is worth noting that both teams were in a lower league position when he left than after his first season in charge (Fiorentina 9th>16th, Lazio 4th>6th). Admittedly, financial problems were almost entirely to blame for these drops in results, but his success at both clubs came before the rot really set in, and players were sold from under his feet (I believe Batistuta was sold before he joined Fiorentina, correct me if I'm wrong).

[Socrates]

i wonder how he will do now that he cant just throw money at every problem.

How did he do at bankrupt Fiorentina and with small money at Lazio?

Well, he left Fiorentina languishing in the relegation zone midway through the season, winning 22% of league games in charge during his 10 month tenure. He did win the Coppa Italia the previous season, getting a bye to the last 16, where they thrashed semi-pro Salernitana 8-1, before beating Brescia, AC Milan and Parma. The season he left, they got knocked out in the round of 32 by Serie C giants Calcio Como 4-0 on aggregate.

It is worth noting that both teams were in a lower league position when he left than after his first season in charge (Fiorentina 9th>16th, Lazio 4th>6th). Admittedly, financial problems were almost entirely to blame for these drops in results, but his success at both clubs came before the rot really set in, and players were sold from under his feet (I believe Batistuta was sold before he joined Fiorentina, correct me if I'm wrong).

FFS he won a pot as a novice manager with a struggling side with no money. He had no players by the time he walked away.
That and the pot at Lazio are two more than the new guy has managed in nine years in Spain. Stop denegrating a manager who has won trophies with every club he has managed it makes you look really bitter and frankly totally unbalanced.

[Socrates]

i wonder how he will do now that he cant just throw money at every problem.

How did he do at bankrupt Fiorentina and with small money at Lazio?

Well, he left Fiorentina languishing in the relegation zone midway through the season, winning 22% of league games in charge during his 10 month tenure. He did win the Coppa Italia the previous season, getting a bye to the last 16, where they thrashed semi-pro Salernitana 8-1, before beating Brescia, AC Milan and Parma. The season he left, they got knocked out in the round of 32 by Serie C giants Calcio Como 4-0 on aggregate.

It is worth noting that both teams were in a lower league position when he left than after his first season in charge (Fiorentina 9th>16th, Lazio 4th>6th). Admittedly, financial problems were almost entirely to blame for these drops in results, but his success at both clubs came before the rot really set in, and players were sold from under his feet (I believe Batistuta was sold before he joined Fiorentina, correct me if I'm wrong).

FFS he won a pot as a novice manager with a struggling side with no money. He had no players by the time he walked away.
That and the pot at Lazio are two more than the new guy has managed in nine years in Spain. Stop denegrating a manager who has won trophies with every club he has managed it makes you look really bitter and frankly totally unbalanced.

[BlueinBosnia]

i wonder how he will do now that he cant just throw money at every problem.

How did he do at bankrupt Fiorentina and with small money at Lazio?

Well, he left Fiorentina languishing in the relegation zone midway through the season, winning 22% of league games in charge during his 10 month tenure. He did win the Coppa Italia the previous season, getting a bye to the last 16, where they thrashed semi-pro Salernitana 8-1, before beating Brescia, AC Milan and Parma. The season he left, they got knocked out in the round of 32 by Serie C giants Calcio Como 4-0 on aggregate.

It is worth noting that both teams were in a lower league position when he left than after his first season in charge (Fiorentina 9th>16th, Lazio 4th>6th). Admittedly, financial problems were almost entirely to blame for these drops in results, but his success at both clubs came before the rot really set in, and players were sold from under his feet (I believe Batistuta was sold before he joined Fiorentina, correct me if I'm wrong).

FFS he won a pot as a novice manager with a struggling side with no money. He had no players by the time he walked away.
That and the pot at Lazio are two more than the new guy has managed in nine years in Spain. Stop denegrating a manager who has won trophies with every club he has managed it makes you look really bitter and frankly totally unbalanced.

He won a pot with a side which had finished 7th the previous season, while at the same time taking them to 9th, at Fiorentina. I agree he had no money (and, by the end, no squad after winning the Copa Italia) while there, but his results hardly point to someone who functioned amazingly on a shoestring, so stop presenting them like they do without providing the facts to back it up. He did well for a novice manager, yes, and did well to jump ship before their relegation, which, although not his fault, would have marred his reputation early in his career.

[sheblue]

Best of luck to him, looks a tough job.

[BlueinBosnia]

Best of luck to him, looks a tough job.

Plenty of pilgrimmage sites around there to keep him happy.

[Lee_R]

Watch him go and win the CL now..

[Dronny]

Watch him go and win the CL now..

Not in my lfietime Chief will you get me anywhere near Galatasary ;-)

[Im_Spartacus]

Who kinda counts what? "best team in the league by a country mile" who are we talking about here? City?

You were talking about inter weren't you? So was I

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

i wonder how he will do now that he cant just throw money at every problem.

How did he do at bankrupt Fiorentina and with small money at Lazio?

Exactly.

I think Bob could have held off for a bigger/better job but he'll do well at Gala, he's never failed anywhere he's been so far.

That's the bottom line. He has so far in his career never failed anywhere.

I think Galatasaray is horrible job though. Turkish league is graveyeard of managers and you basically can't win with them. If you win Turkish league their supporters are "satisfied".

[Blue Since 76]

Quite, there's no way our owners are stupid enough to have agreed a severance deal that sees him get £5million a year.

When he was sacked, it was reported he was paid about £5m immediately and would then be on full pay until he found a new job. Considering he was the best paid manager in the league and we'd only just given him a long contract, I'd say we were over the barrel unless they'd thought to put 'must get out of the group stages' in it. So it was going to cost us around £5m a season, maybe more, whilst he sat around waiting for a job he fancied.

[BlueinBosnia]

Considering he was the best paid manager in the league

I thought Wenger earned more than him? Possibly Baconface as well.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Who kinda counts what? "best team in the league by a country mile" who are we talking about here? City?

You were talking about inter weren't you? So was I

Ah right, sorry, we were talking about Mancini's career in general so that's where the confusion arose.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Quite, there's no way our owners are stupid enough to have agreed a severance deal that sees him get £5million a year.

When he was sacked, it was reported he was paid about £5m immediately and would then be on full pay until he found a new job. Considering he was the best paid manager in the league and we'd only just given him a long contract, I'd say we were over the barrel unless they'd thought to put 'must get out of the group stages' in it. So it was going to cost us around £5m a season, maybe more, whilst he sat around waiting for a job he fancied.

The reports I read said we paid him around £7million in severance and that would be topped up for every month he was out of work. If our owners were stupid enough for that monthly top up to equal £5million over the course of a year then I despair, I don't believe it was anywhere close to that however.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Considering he was the best paid manager in the league

I thought Wenger earned more than him? Possibly Baconface as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -list.html

[BlueinBosnia]

Considering he was the best paid manager in the league

I thought Wenger earned more than him? Possibly Baconface as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -list.html

Thanks. I always thought Wenger earned more than Baconface, though?

[Colin the King]

i wonder how he will do now that he cant just throw money at every problem.

How did he do at bankrupt Fiorentina and with small money at Lazio?

Exactly.

I think Bob could have held off for a bigger/better job but he'll do well at Gala, he's never failed anywhere he's been so far.

That's the bottom line. He has so far in his career never failed anywhere.

I think Galatasaray is horrible job though. Turkish league is graveyeard of managers and you basically can't win with them. If you win Turkish league their supporters are "satisfied".

Doesn't sound particularly different from his last job ;)