What Next?

[Hazy2]

I do not want his head, I said it would roller coaster and was battered for it, that said we have major problems, like last season some team maybe even Arsenal, are going to sneak off with the league before we get our act together, The scum were given our trophy they walked away under no pressure, even lost a few we lost on the same weeked or drew at some shite team the rags beat.We are in transition Bayern have been top draw for decades, we rightly or wrongly flurted Mancini, for all his rants he made it known we needed changes and those rants are laid out now before us, for me this started after the Derby, the cunts were offered the far corner by Joe, Nasri ducked they took itRVP is lefyt footed for fooks sake. He went out to the Xfactor with scouse cunt and RVP, he have never been the same since, Harsh, he is at a gues seen as a liability by Vinny and others as Mancing hinted at. Pelli has the England keeper, that is no guide he is outstanding, he has now seen for himself Joe needs serious work to be the keeper we should have between the sticks.Take nothing away they are spanking most teams. Game like that even at full throttle you may lose.

[Beefymcfc]

Patience, Beefy. Patience....

I'm always patient mate, it's part of my DNA. What I can't be patient about is the manner of football we played yesterday. It's OK saying we'll play the same way because it's open attacking football but with this system it will never work. We look like a one trick pony and even if we played this way season on season clubs will still find us out with a little twist of tactics.

Saying that, if we play this was season on season then decent clubs wouldn't have to find us out. We'd continue to concede ground and the quality players we have would want away. Top players cannot be associated with going backwards and they'd be off the ship before any sight of an ice-berg.

[Original Dub]

Patience, Beefy. Patience....

I'm always patient mate, it's part of my DNA. What I can't be patient about is the manner of football we played yesterday. It's OK saying we'll play the same way because it's open attacking football but with this system it will never work. We look like a one trick pony and even if we played this way season on season clubs will still find us out with a little twist of tactics.

Saying that, if we play this was season on season then decent clubs wouldn't have to find us out. We'd continue to concede ground and the quality players we have would want away. Top players cannot be associated with going backwards and they'd be off the ship before any sight of an ice-berg.

Wow.

So there is a concern there that we are going backwards and we better stop the rot before all our good players want out and we're back to mid table?

I've heard it all now.

[AG7]

Alright mate, give it a day or two and AG7 will let you know.

LOL ... here you go: viewtopic.php?f=119&t=46809

[lets all have a disco]

Just a thought, I wonder , if we swapped pellegrandad I and pep which team would come out on top?

Bayern would still win, even Bayern Managed by Mancini would win.

[AG7]

Bayern would still win, even Bayern Managed by Mancini would win.

I'm not so sure ... even City managed by Mancini wouldn't have done that last night ... they might have been outplayed and still lost but not like that ...

[Burt]

We just got beat by the best team in Europe.On Saturday we lost to Aston Villa so go figure.You really thought we could win tonight did you.I did'nt the best i was hoping for was a draw.

Gillie, were you drinking in The Eastlands bar before the game last night mate?

No mate i was at home.

Ahhhh. It's just that I heard someone shout Gillie to a guy that was in there. Good job I didn't move in and say "Oi! are you Gillie fella then!" Heheee

[Ajardine]

___________________PANTI______________________
Zabs________Komps__________Lescott________Clichy
___________________Ferna_______________________
Nasri_______Yaya____________Rodwell_________Silva
___________________Negredo_____________________

Pack the midfield. Rodwell can drop back & Nasri & Silva can drift in to support Negredo, with Nasri dropping onto the balls that Negredo wins the ball in the air. Yaya can also move forward.

[Beefymcfc]

Patience, Beefy. Patience....

I'm always patient mate, it's part of my DNA. What I can't be patient about is the manner of football we played yesterday. It's OK saying we'll play the same way because it's open attacking football but with this system it will never work. We look like a one trick pony and even if we played this way season on season clubs will still find us out with a little twist of tactics.

Saying that, if we play this was season on season then decent clubs wouldn't have to find us out. We'd continue to concede ground and the quality players we have would want away. Top players cannot be associated with going backwards and they'd be off the ship before any sight of an ice-berg.

Wow.

So there is a concern there that we are going backwards and we better stop the rot before all our good players want out and we're back to mid table?

I've heard it all now.

Ha ha ha, it was a bit extreme wasn't it. However, that's the way it works. We are not the ultimate when it comes to the big teams, we are still a minnow in respect.

What do you think will happen if, say, we finish in the top 4 (?) and make the last 16 (?)? I put the question marks in because none of them are guaranteed and if we are assuming that then it's wrong. We should be doing both this season (team we've got and teams we've been pitted against this season) but have you seen anything, tactically or enthusiasm wise, that could take you to the conclusion that we will be winning it all this year?

You know me, I like to put up a prediction thread after the window has closed. Did I do it this year?

[Original Dub]

Ha ha ha, it was a bit extreme wasn't it. However, that's the way it works. We are not the ultimate when it comes to the big teams, we are still a minnow in respect.

What do you think will happen if, say, we finish in the top 4 (?) and make the last 16 (?)? I put the question marks in because none of them are guaranteed and if we are assuming that then it's wrong. We should be doing both this season (team we've got and teams we've been pitted against this season) but have you seen anything, tactically or enthusiasm wise, that could take you to the conclusion that we will be winning it all this year?

You know me, I like to put up a prediction thread after the window has closed. Did I do it this year?

Well mate, you make it sound like all or nothing.

I've already said that as of today I've learned fuck all so far to tell me where this league will end up at the end of the season.

However, if we fail to make champs league and regress as a club to the point that everyone wants to leave, I'll chew my own bollox off.

Let's not jump any gun just yet :)

[Ted Hughes]

___________________PANTI______________________
Zabs________Komps__________Lescott________Clichy
___________________Ferna_______________________
Nasri_______Yaya____________Rodwell_________Silva
___________________Negredo_____________________

Pack the midfield. Rodwell can drop back & Nasri & Silva can drift in to support Negredo, with Nasri dropping onto the balls that Negredo wins the ball in the air. Yaya can also move forward.

Decent but that team would HAVE to push right up, like Bayern did, or they would leave gaps for 1-2s & pot shots. I'd consider Navas in place of Nasri, but a tough call. I'd definitely swap Fernandinho & Rodwell positions & possibly Milner could play there instead of Rodwell but my choice away from home would be Micah at right back & Zabba in that position.

[MilnersJaw]

I wonder if footballers ever read football forums even if it's a glance. How might be hitting the bottle again.

[Beefymcfc]

Ha ha ha, it was a bit extreme wasn't it. However, that's the way it works. We are not the ultimate when it comes to the big teams, we are still a minnow in respect.

What do you think will happen if, say, we finish in the top 4 (?) and make the last 16 (?)? I put the question marks in because none of them are guaranteed and if we are assuming that then it's wrong. We should be doing both this season (team we've got and teams we've been pitted against this season) but have you seen anything, tactically or enthusiasm wise, that could take you to the conclusion that we will be winning it all this year?

You know me, I like to put up a prediction thread after the window has closed. Did I do it this year?

Well mate, you make it sound like all or nothing.

I've already said that as of today I've learned fuck all so far to tell me where this league will end up at the end of the season.

However, if we fail to make champs league and regress as a club to the point that everyone wants to leave, I'll chew my own bollox off.

Let's not jump any gun just yet :)

It's a real thing mate. Some of the players went through the same last season and if we continue in this vein then how many seasons can you see them sticking around?

I'm not jumping the gun, I'm just looking at the picture that is being portrayed. We shouldn't even be thinking along the lines of not finishing in the CL positions and instead looking at the PL title. I still see it that way but it's scary to think how we've performed during this transition phase. Looking great one minute before being hit with a sucker punch because 3/4 of the team are in the oppo's 6 yard box.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

Pellegrini has said several times that it will take till Xmas for the squad to fully adapt to his system. This could explain his reluctance to return to other styles of playing - if we change every time we struggle, the learning process is longer.

I am not saying this is what is happening or is the right thing to do, just offering it as one possible analysis.

[sheblue]

Pellegrini has said several times that it will take till Xmas for the squad to fully adapt to his system. This could explain his reluctance to return to other styles of playing - if we change every time we struggle, the learning process is longer.

I am not saying this is what is happening or is the right thing to do, just offering it as one possible analysis.

I really don't know about all of that how long does it take to learn?
It was shite formation that cost us Wednesday fook all to do with style of play.

[Ajardine]

Decent but that team would HAVE to push right up, like Bayern did, or they would leave gaps for 1-2s & pot shots. I'd consider Navas in place of Nasri, but a tough call. I'd definitely swap Fernandinho & Rodwell positions & possibly Milner could play there instead of Rodwell but my choice away from home would be Micah at right back & Zabba in that position.

I've touted Zabs to sit in front of the back 4 for a while now Ted, but doubt chucking him in against Bayern would do us any good. Fernandinho would do well there, he'd have a pass on in front in yaya & Rodwell. Don't think Milners 1st touch is good enough to play in the middle, he gets away with it out wide as you get a little bit more time. I think with Rodwell, you'd lose too much from him back there, his pace is a weapon. Just think Ferna could do with sitting back and having a bit of space while he beds in

[zabbadabbado]

It should be more than apparent we have an attitude problem.

Even during our Premiership title winning season it was obvious there was attitude problems. during that season Suddenly playing like a bag off shite because the manager wanted them playing a specific way,dummy spitting football ensued until it was/and should have been mathematically impossible for us to win that title after capitulating the way we did that season.Then when the pressure was off,Mancini appeared to be toast at the seasons end, the players suddenly started performing again and routinely dispatching the opponents as if to say look we can play when we want too.i think Mancini just let them get on with it then.Nobody expected the RAGS to bottle it the way they did, and we ended up title winners.I think there were players undermining us that season and they wanted Mancini gone then.It was bizarre how it ultimately turned out the way it did.

Last season performances was really just the same old soft cunt mard arse players saying Mancini can fuck off we don't like him,the reality is they had said it the season before but we just all forgot it after getting carried away on the crest of a wave after the Title some how ended up in our lap.

I have had concerns for a while about the attitude of a few players.When i found out Joe Hart was also boyhood RAG fan as well as a little mard arse grassing bitch i went back over some off his shite performances and a couple against the RAGS stick out,like sore thumbs managing to concede 3 and should have been 4 from their only 4 shit shots in the Derby at home last season,his constantly sucking wooneys dick in the media.He had the biggest gripe with Mancini and his performances in crucial games last season really fucked us up,just my opinion.No wonder Mancini had his replacement in the pipeline

Then you have Ya Ya undoubtedly a real talent great on his day when he can be arsed showing up.To many times he performs lazy arsed to justify the times he can be arsed tracking back and making a game off it.

Our problems are there Pellegrini has to make tough,but the right decisions.

[AG7]

It should be more than apparent we have an attitude problem. Even during our Premiership title winning season it was obvious there was attitude problems. during that season Suddenly playing like a bag off shite because the manager wanted them playing a specific way,dummy spitting football ensued until it was/and should have been mathematically impossible for us to win that title after capitulating the way we did that season.Then when the pressure was off,Mancini appeared to be toast at the seasons end, the players suddenly started performing again and routinely dispatching the opponents as if to say look we can play when we want too.i think Mancini just let them get on with it then.Nobody expected the RAGS to bottle it the way they did, and we ended up title winners.I think there were players undermining us that season and they wanted Mancini gone then.It was bizarre how it ultimately turned out the way it did. Last season performances was really just the same old soft cunt mard arse players saying Mancini can fuck off we don't like him,the reality is they had said it the season before but we just all forgot it after getting carried away on the crest of a wave after the Title some how ended up in our lap. I have had concerns for a while about the attitude of a few players.When i found out Joe Hart was also boyhood RAG fan as well as a little mard arse grassing bitch i went back over some off his shite performances and a couple against the RAGS stick out,like sore thumbs managing to concede 3 and should have been 4 from their only 4 shit shots in the Derby at home last season,his constantly sucking wooneys dick in the media.He had the biggest gripe with Mancini and his performances in crucial games last season really fucked us up,just my opinion.No wonder Mancini had his replacement in the pipeline Then you have Ya Ya undoubtedly a real talent great on his day when he can be arsed showing up.To many times he performs lazy arsed to justify the times he can be arsed tracking back and making a game off it. Our problems are there Pellegrini has to make tough,but the right decisions.

Hmmmmm ... well, I have to say at some point we all have wondered some bits and pieces in there ... and now that you put them together, one does wonder ...

[dawn]

next is the club realise what a terrible error it made in sacking mancini.

[Original Dub]

next is the club realise what a terrible error it made in sacking mancini.

Another one.

Ok let's get rid. And the new guy better win 3 games more or he's gone too. Let's make abramovich look like employer of the decade.