European Super League - A Reality? (Poll Added)

[Hazy2]

PSG have been the final piece. The American Networks will along with Sky will have this boxed and packaged given the red light. Spuds and the scousers must be terrified. Once the boat sails it is never docking again.

[mcfc1632]

PSG have been the final piece. The American Networks will along with Sky will have this boxed and packaged given the red light. Spuds and the scousers must be terrified. Once the boat sails it is never docking again.

I would be more concerned that it is red scouse's salvation - and we are at risk.

The old G14 have long established relationships and red scouse are part of that family

[Beefymcfc]

PSG have been the final piece. The American Networks will along with Sky will have this boxed and packaged given the red light. Spuds and the scousers must be terrified. Once the boat sails it is never docking again.

I would be more concerned that it is red scouse's salvation - and we are at risk.

The old G14 have long established relationships and red scouse are part of that family

The Dippers will be out in force with their candles to ensure they'll be in the pot. As you say, they are still part of the old cartel and will play every card to be part of something so lucrative.

[Rag_hater]

We have done alright in the past without .being in this gravy pot and I'm sure we will be alright in future if we get excluded

[BlueinBosnia]

Imagine that being replaced by a parallel league ... so on weekends you play your Premier League games and mid week you play European League games ... and no need to relegate anyone, simply you have to get into top 4 of your home league to get in next year so you have two leagues to fight for ...

Some of those ideas have gone down a storm in rugby union...

[Hutch's Shoulder]

Magic Weekend in Munich anyone?

[MilnersJaw]

Fuck a super league. Who gives a shit about watching arsenal vs Porto on the last game of the season when Munich won It ten games earlier. With this league you would have no big final, not to mention how unfair it would be on traveling fans.

[Wonderwall]

I would imagine no domestic competition either so no league cup or FA cup and any european competition would have no excitement at all. Seems stupid to even consider it IMO. Part of me hopes we dont go as I would still rather play against the opposition we do now than have this crappy closed door rubbish.

[Tesl]

I hope this never happens but I think its an inevitability. Football is only driven by money now, and if this is going to make more money for the clubs (and it would) then it will eventually happen.

You are kidding yourself if you think there will be any promotion or relegation, it will be purely invitation based and there is no guarantee we would be in it.

Liverpool would be, they unfortunately still carry a large worldwide fanbase. That they are shit now doesn't really matter.

[Beefymcfc]

I would imagine no domestic competition either so no league cup or FA cup and any european competition would have no excitement at all. Seems stupid to even consider it IMO. Part of me hopes we dont go as I would still rather play against the opposition we do now than have this crappy closed door rubbish.

I honestly think I'd have no interest in this type of competition unless we remained with our roots and continued our domestic league. Imagine it, if a team runaway with it early, what the hell is there to play for? Not to mention the excessive costs for those who routinely attend away games.

Seems very much sour grapes from the Galatasaray owner but at the same time it's obviously been talked about. The question is, 'Why are they talking about it?'. Is it to get something else through UEFA or do they generally feel that a closed shop league would be a real money spinner? At first it would be a bit of fun but within a couple of years you'd see many of the fans reverting to domestic competitions because the alliances that have been forged over the years will start to be eroded.

Also, would the likes of Sky and sponsors want to be stuck with crap games from the bottom feeders of a Euro-League, surely not.

[City64]

Impossible conception and it would be bent as fuck .....


so absolutely no chance !

[mcfc1632]

The CL is already a European Super League there don't need to be anything else.Next to super bowl the CL final is the most watched sporting event there is.Euro super league would never make as much money it might distribute what there is more evenly

I suspect it will be whatever the old G14 cartel decide it will be.

The current CL and the Europa League farce represent UeFA's craven acquiescence to the last threat of a break-away. It has satisfied the beast since but in recent years it has been obvious that they (the old cartel) will want to revise the situation again - and this time they will be mindful of the need to manage the risk of 'outsiders' gate-crashing the party.

Perez was openly saying a couple of years ago that the need is for the 'big teams' to be playing each other in a full league.

They will insist on an arrangement that removes any risk to their inclusion - probably a closed league would result. I would absolutely expect Liverpool to be invited - their worldwide fan base will appeal to the TV moguls. The clubs will be able to share the TV money on a basis that would make all happy - but likely not evenly. Costs of players can be better controlled etc. so there would not be the massive occasional need to pump mega-bucks in - the current situation must have shocked the US owners.

The risk has been growing for years - and is one of the reasons I was happy to see the arrival of Soriano. I would think that the likelihood is that we would not be included but if the changes take a few years we can hope that they will increase our 'acceptability' amongst a group where we are currently pretty friendless.

Whatever - I think our inclusion would only occur if the format accommodated 5 teams from England - because we would not be ahead of the scum, arse, red scouse of Chelsea no matter our positions in an English league. Frankly I cannot see a European wide league that has 5 teams from one country - would not seem to make sense. Could we also be behind Celtic and Rangers?? Their global fanbase of years ago was big - thankfully years of decline in of football in Scotland may have reduced that risk.

I think the future is quite bleak in this regard. Any such 'super-league' will be resounding success - of this I have no doubt - and only clubs in that league could attract top players.

[zuricity]

Magic Weekend in Munich anyone?

More going on in Berlin and Hamburg than München. Much much more

[ant london]

Another factor (which i think ross.mcfc mentioned in another thread a few weeks ago and which, IMO is very relevant) and which points towards this super league/world league/franchise FC/39th game scenario is the fact that the Champions League takes place in completely the wrong timezone currently.

If games were played (and watchable) in the evenings in Asia and South America your audience (and revenue) goes through the roof.

Depressing though it is....matchgoing local fans ceased to be "really" important a long time ago. The only thing they contribute to the PL is a unique atmosphere....in economic terms

[Rag_hater]

If the rag twats ,Arse the dippers were to fuck off with the other Euro nobs, don't think it would make much difference to our league.Those clubs that did fuck off would soon be replaced.
People seem to think that our league cannot or would not function without the rags.What a load of bollox.

[Beefymcfc]

If the rag twats ,Arse the dippers were to fuck off with the other Euro nobs, don't think it would make much difference to our league.Those clubs that did fuck off would soon be replaced.
People seem to think that our league cannot or would not function without the rags.What a load of bollox.

I like it when you talk sense and the reality is what you've said. If it was a league of 20 teams then it would only be 2 teams (at most) from our league. So, the Rags and one of the other top 4, say Arsenal, fuck off still leaving a very healthy and competitive league that will still command lots of sponsorship. And again, this will run throughout all leagues who will just set-up their own version of the CL. The Super League would just become another also ran once people realised it's not all that it's cracked open to be.

[mcfc1632]

If the rag twats ,Arse the dippers were to fuck off with the other Euro nobs, don't think it would make much difference to our league.Those clubs that did fuck off would soon be replaced.
People seem to think that our league cannot or would not function without the rags.What a load of bollox.

I like it when you talk sense and the reality is what you've said. If it was a league of 20 teams then it would only be 2 teams (at most) from our league. So, the Rags and one of the other top 4, say Arsenal, fuck off still leaving a very healthy and competitive league that will still command lots of sponsorship. And again, this will run throughout all leagues who will just set-up their own version of the CL. The Super League would just become another also ran once people realised it's not all that it's cracked open to be.

Beefy - I always respect your views and on this occasion I want to believe that yet again you are right.................... but

Wish you were spot on - but worry that your view is utter bollocks

The £zillions behind this would mean that it would be made to be compelling viewing and our league would be 2nd rate (at best)

We would be also-rans and 'forever' have to watch the 'top table' on TV never having a chance to take part. Shameful - but would these fuckers give a shit - no.

[mcfc1632]

If the rag twats ,Arse the dippers were to fuck off with the other Euro nobs, don't think it would make much difference to our league.Those clubs that did fuck off would soon be replaced.
People seem to think that our league cannot or would not function without the rags.What a load of bollox.

I like it when you talk sense and the reality is what you've said. If it was a league of 20 teams then it would only be 2 teams (at most) from our league. So, the Rags and one of the other top 4, say Arsenal, fuck off still leaving a very healthy and competitive league that will still command lots of sponsorship. And again, this will run throughout all leagues who will just set-up their own version of the CL. The Super League would just become another also ran once people realised it's not all that it's cracked open to be.

Beefy - I always respect your views and on this occasion I want to believe that yet again you are right.................... but

Wish you were spot on - but worry that your view is utter bollocks

The £zillions behind this would mean that it would be made to be compelling viewing and our league would be 2nd rate (at best)

We would be also-rans and 'forever' have to watch the 'top table' on TV never having a chance to take part. Shameful - but would these fuckers give a shit - no.

[Rag_hater]

If the rag twats ,Arse the dippers were to fuck off with the other Euro nobs, don't think it would make much difference to our league.Those clubs that did fuck off would soon be replaced.
People seem to think that our league cannot or would not function without the rags.What a load of bollox.

I like it when you talk sense and the reality is what you've said. If it was a league of 20 teams then it would only be 2 teams (at most) from our league. So, the Rags and one of the other top 4, say Arsenal, fuck off still leaving a very healthy and competitive league that will still command lots of sponsorship. And again, this will run throughout all leagues who will just set-up their own version of the CL. The Super League would just become another also ran once people realised it's not all that it's cracked open to be.

Beefy - I always respect your views and on this occasion I want to believe that yet again you are right.................... but

Wish you were spot on - but worry that your view is utter bollocks

The £zillions behind this would mean that it would be made to be compelling viewing and our league would be 2nd rate (at best)

We would be also-rans and 'forever' have to watch the 'top table' on TV never having a chance to take part. Shameful - but would these fuckers give a shit - no.

If you are of the opinion that the CL is a superior comp to win than our prem then surely it is already.Our prem is 2nd rate already and the CL makes a lot.The thing is most of us and the vast majority of the paying public would still want us to all we could to win this 2nd rate comp.We have coped before witout it and it's pretty safe to say we will cope in future.And if the Arse and Rags do fuck off the chances of us winning this 2nd rate comp go up.

[Beefymcfc]

If the rag twats ,Arse the dippers were to fuck off with the other Euro nobs, don't think it would make much difference to our league.Those clubs that did fuck off would soon be replaced.
People seem to think that our league cannot or would not function without the rags.What a load of bollox.

I like it when you talk sense and the reality is what you've said. If it was a league of 20 teams then it would only be 2 teams (at most) from our league. So, the Rags and one of the other top 4, say Arsenal, fuck off still leaving a very healthy and competitive league that will still command lots of sponsorship. And again, this will run throughout all leagues who will just set-up their own version of the CL. The Super League would just become another also ran once people realised it's not all that it's cracked open to be.

Beefy - I always respect your views and on this occasion I want to believe that yet again you are right.................... but

Wish you were spot on - but worry that your view is utter bollocks

The £zillions behind this would mean that it would be made to be compelling viewing and our league would be 2nd rate (at best)

We would be also-rans and 'forever' have to watch the 'top table' on TV never having a chance to take part. Shameful - but would these fuckers give a shit - no.

It may sound bollocks mate and I'm sure that if it comes about they'll be subtle changes to make it the spectacle that all will want to watch but in reality it is 20 teams from the European nations while there will still be thousands of others, and their fans, that will keep the real football ticking over. If, say, the PL loses the Rags and Arsenal then there will be enough competition to keep the league going.

It wouldn't be our league that I'd be worried about, it would be the Super League if we made it into it. Some may find it interesting but I'm pretty certain it, under those proposed terms, would become very boring, very soon. Without demotion/promotion and a lack of real competition at the top of the table would lead to a stagnant competition.

Would I want to be a part of this system, not in a million years. Without domestic interest there's no interest from me and I'd suggest it would be the same for many fans.