Fernandinho

[Tim777]

What I do pick up about him is that he has a great attitude, and it's that attitude combined with skill that will catapult him to the heights that we expect from him. He seems have added pressure with the defensive midfield role that has been laid on him, but it looks like he's up for it; if he continues with that determination, it will soon reap rewards for him and the club imo.

[Im_Spartacus]

I have no opinion on this guy. I'm not ashamed to admit that I have no idea what he should be doing. He's not Barry nor is he Pirlo. And as a result, I can't tell if he's shit in matches or class

I think that's a fair assessment given that we haven't seen any level of consistency in his or even our game to properly understand what he is supposed to do.

Tidy up after yaya seems to be the top and bottom of it, which is a shame as he seems to be a fairly decent player on the ball and must be itching to get involved further up the pitch

[london blue 2]

Just to show I'm not a complete and utter negative cunt I thought fernandinho was brilliant today. He's getting better... Still shit in the final third but he looked like a better Ramirez today.

[Sideshow Bob]

Just to show I'm not a complete and utter negative cunt I thought fernandinho was brilliant today. He's getting better... Still shit in the final third but he looked like a better Ramirez today.

Agreed. He was excellent and made yaya look (especially) lazy by comparison.

[blue wine]

MOTM for me

[bobby brows]

MOTM for me

Not quite for me but easily his best game

[Spurge]

Lets right him off after half a dozen games....yeh why not.... Fernandihno's new to the team, the team sets up differently and you know what it's centre mid that's more exposed under the new approach, so hardly surprising that of the newbies this guy's finding it tougher than the others. Negredo has a strike partner, Navas has been given a licence to attack down the right - it's what they do. So cut him some slack I'm sure he'll come good.

Here managers get sacked after 5 games (Di Canio this season), others come under pressure in 6 games into the season (Padrew, Jol) ... hell Arse were calling for Wenger's head after game 1 ... so why can't we as fans judge a player after 12 games? I haven't asked for Fernandhino's head (just to clarify), am just questioning the premise that oh it's only been 12 games ... how many is enough? 12 games or 12 seasons? Hell for someone even 12 mins of game might be enough to form an opinion ... everyone's entitled to theirs, and that includes how long they take forming that. In your eyes they might be hasty, but similarly in their eyes you might be the one who can't make up his mind ...

Do you wish to revaluate?

[Beefymcfc]

Lets right him off after half a dozen games....yeh why not.... Fernandihno's new to the team, the team sets up differently and you know what it's centre mid that's more exposed under the new approach, so hardly surprising that of the newbies this guy's finding it tougher than the others. Negredo has a strike partner, Navas has been given a licence to attack down the right - it's what they do. So cut him some slack I'm sure he'll come good.

Here managers get sacked after 5 games (Di Canio this season), others come under pressure in 6 games into the season (Padrew, Jol) ... hell Arse were calling for Wenger's head after game 1 ... so why can't we as fans judge a player after 12 games? I haven't asked for Fernandhino's head (just to clarify), am just questioning the premise that oh it's only been 12 games ... how many is enough? 12 games or 12 seasons? Hell for someone even 12 mins of game might be enough to form an opinion ... everyone's entitled to theirs, and that includes how long they take forming that. In your eyes they might be hasty, but similarly in their eyes you might be the one who can't make up his mind ...

Do you wish to revaluate?

That's a little unfair mate. I was very much against the way Blue's were bigging him up in the early stages just so they could put across that he was a good signing. In the light of day, Fernando was a lot of money for an aging player, similar to that that was aimed against the Rags with Van Pussy. He wasn't has good as we all thoguht he could be at first but gradually grew into the shoes that we all wanted him to.

Early in his time I said that he was being played in the wrong role as he always wanted to get forward and now he has proved that he is an intelligent player who will work out when to twist or stick. Whether I'm right or wrong doesn't matter but what has to be accepted is that he's doing a job for us that has seen him score 2 goals for us today.

He isn't a Gareth Barry and definately not a Nigel De Jong, but what he is, is a Man City player who is now proving his worth, even if it turned out to be just one season.

Fernando knows the score, he has to perform, and he is getting it just at the right time.

[PrezIke]

Lets right him off after half a dozen games....yeh why not.... Fernandihno's new to the team, the team sets up differently and you know what it's centre mid that's more exposed under the new approach, so hardly surprising that of the newbies this guy's finding it tougher than the others. Negredo has a strike partner, Navas has been given a licence to attack down the right - it's what they do. So cut him some slack I'm sure he'll come good.

Here managers get sacked after 5 games (Di Canio this season), others come under pressure in 6 games into the season (Padrew, Jol) ... hell Arse were calling for Wenger's head after game 1 ... so why can't we as fans judge a player after 12 games? I haven't asked for Fernandhino's head (just to clarify), am just questioning the premise that oh it's only been 12 games ... how many is enough? 12 games or 12 seasons? Hell for someone even 12 mins of game might be enough to form an opinion ... everyone's entitled to theirs, and that includes how long they take forming that. In your eyes they might be hasty, but similarly in their eyes you might be the one who can't make up his mind ...

Do you wish to revaluate?

That's a little unfair mate. I was very much against the way Blue's were bigging him up in the early stages just so they could put across that he was a good signing.

no disrespect, but that is what you call a strawman argument.

just because one was expressing that they liked fernandinho early on, or thought he would be very good for us down the road, does not mean that one was saying it here just so we could be the ones to take credit for liking the signing earlier than anyone else. that's not at all accurate in my own case. if he bombed would not we be the ones to have to eat our words? i liked what i saw and have been trusting of our scouting department/management.

looking like they made more than one good decision this past summer already and hardly one that can be ridiculed at all so far. of those most important to the first team's performance.

in:

pellegrini
fernandinho
navas
negredo
jovetic
demichellis

out:

mancini
tevez
barry (loan)
sinclair (loan)
kolo
maicon

seems like pretty hard to argue for anyone we would rather have right now than what we switched for other than kolo, but he wanted to get more playing time, from what i understand.

[Spurge]

Lets right him off after half a dozen games....yeh why not.... Fernandihno's new to the team, the team sets up differently and you know what it's centre mid that's more exposed under the new approach, so hardly surprising that of the newbies this guy's finding it tougher than the others. Negredo has a strike partner, Navas has been given a licence to attack down the right - it's what they do. So cut him some slack I'm sure he'll come good.

Here managers get sacked after 5 games (Di Canio this season), others come under pressure in 6 games into the season (Padrew, Jol) ... hell Arse were calling for Wenger's head after game 1 ... so why can't we as fans judge a player after 12 games? I haven't asked for Fernandhino's head (just to clarify), am just questioning the premise that oh it's only been 12 games ... how many is enough? 12 games or 12 seasons? Hell for someone even 12 mins of game might be enough to form an opinion ... everyone's entitled to theirs, and that includes how long they take forming that. In your eyes they might be hasty, but similarly in their eyes you might be the one who can't make up his mind ...

Do you wish to revaluate?

That's a little unfair mate. I was very much against the way Blue's were bigging him up in the early stages just so they could put across that he was a good signing. In the light of day, Fernando was a lot of money for an aging player, similar to that that was aimed against the Rags with Van Pussy. He wasn't has good as we all thoguht he could be at first but gradually grew into the shoes that we all wanted him to.

Early in his time I said that he was being played in the wrong role as he always wanted to get forward and now he has proved that he is an intelligent player who will work out when to twist or stick. Whether I'm right or wrong doesn't matter but what has to be accepted is that he's doing a job for us that has seen him score 2 goals for us today.

He isn't a Gareth Barry and definately not a Nigel De Jong, but what he is, is a Man City player who is now proving his worth, even if it turned out to be just one season.

Fernando knows the score, he has to perform, and he is getting it just at the right time.

Well you could say maybe, perhaps, but equally you could argue it's a fair comment. The point was that the poster in question was suggesting that managers get sacked after 6 games so it was fair to judge a player after 12 games.

I think for anyone to expect a new player to fit into a team playing a new style of play under a new manager to hit the ground running after just 12 games is unreasonable irrespective of the price tag. So by the same token asking him now, a couple of months on if he wants to reassess the situation shouldn't be seen as unfair. His question was how many games is enough to evaluate a player?

I would suggest that in this example that 12 games was too early in his City career to draw conclusions on.

There were other posters on the thread who were much more scathing and willing to right him of it's true to say, but I've referred to the poster who responded to my post that appealed for people to' cut him some slack' stating 'I'm sure he'll come good'

[Beefymcfc]

Lets right him off after half a dozen games....yeh why not.... Fernandihno's new to the team, the team sets up differently and you know what it's centre mid that's more exposed under the new approach, so hardly surprising that of the newbies this guy's finding it tougher than the others. Negredo has a strike partner, Navas has been given a licence to attack down the right - it's what they do. So cut him some slack I'm sure he'll come good.

Here managers get sacked after 5 games (Di Canio this season), others come under pressure in 6 games into the season (Padrew, Jol) ... hell Arse were calling for Wenger's head after game 1 ... so why can't we as fans judge a player after 12 games? I haven't asked for Fernandhino's head (just to clarify), am just questioning the premise that oh it's only been 12 games ... how many is enough? 12 games or 12 seasons? Hell for someone even 12 mins of game might be enough to form an opinion ... everyone's entitled to theirs, and that includes how long they take forming that. In your eyes they might be hasty, but similarly in their eyes you might be the one who can't make up his mind ...

Do you wish to revaluate?

That's a little unfair mate. I was very much against the way Blue's were bigging him up in the early stages just so they could put across that he was a good signing. In the light of day, Fernando was a lot of money for an aging player, similar to that that was aimed against the Rags with Van Pussy. He wasn't has good as we all thoguht he could be at first but gradually grew into the shoes that we all wanted him to.

Early in his time I said that he was being played in the wrong role as he always wanted to get forward and now he has proved that he is an intelligent player who will work out when to twist or stick. Whether I'm right or wrong doesn't matter but what has to be accepted is that he's doing a job for us that has seen him score 2 goals for us today.

He isn't a Gareth Barry and definately not a Nigel De Jong, but what he is, is a Man City player who is now proving his worth, even if it turned out to be just one season.

Fernando knows the score, he has to perform, and he is getting it just at the right time.

Well you could say maybe, perhaps, but equally you could argue it's a fair comment. The point was that the poster in question was suggesting that managers get sacked after 6 games so it was fair to judge a player after 12 games.

I think for anyone to expect a new player to fit into a team playing a new style of play under a new manager to hit the ground running after just 12 games is unreasonable irrespective of the price tag. So by the same token asking him now, a couple of months on if he wants to reassess the situation shouldn't be seen as unfair. His question was how many games is enough to evaluate a player?

I would suggest that in this example that 12 games was too early in his City career to draw conclusions on.

There were other posters on the thread who were much more scathing and willing to right him of it's true to say, but I've referred to the poster who responded to my post that appealed for people to' cut him some slack' stating 'I'm sure he'll come good'

I read ''No disrespect' and seen that you've quoted a single line of my text.

I'll leave it there.

[Spurge]

Here managers get sacked after 5 games (Di Canio this season), others come under pressure in 6 games into the season (Padrew, Jol) ... hell Arse were calling for Wenger's head after game 1 ... so why can't we as fans judge a player after 12 games? I haven't asked for Fernandhino's head (just to clarify), am just questioning the premise that oh it's only been 12 games ... how many is enough? 12 games or 12 seasons? Hell for someone even 12 mins of game might be enough to form an opinion ... everyone's entitled to theirs, and that includes how long they take forming that. In your eyes they might be hasty, but similarly in their eyes you might be the one who can't make up his mind ...

Do you wish to revaluate?

That's a little unfair mate. I was very much against the way Blue's were bigging him up in the early stages just so they could put across that he was a good signing. In the light of day, Fernando was a lot of money for an aging player, similar to that that was aimed against the Rags with Van Pussy. He wasn't has good as we all thoguht he could be at first but gradually grew into the shoes that we all wanted him to.

Early in his time I said that he was being played in the wrong role as he always wanted to get forward and now he has proved that he is an intelligent player who will work out when to twist or stick. Whether I'm right or wrong doesn't matter but what has to be accepted is that he's doing a job for us that has seen him score 2 goals for us today.

He isn't a Gareth Barry and definately not a Nigel De Jong, but what he is, is a Man City player who is now proving his worth, even if it turned out to be just one season.

Fernando knows the score, he has to perform, and he is getting it just at the right time.

Well you could say maybe, perhaps, but equally you could argue it's a fair comment. The point was that the poster in question was suggesting that managers get sacked after 6 games so it was fair to judge a player after 12 games.

I think for anyone to expect a new player to fit into a team playing a new style of play under a new manager to hit the ground running after just 12 games is unreasonable irrespective of the price tag. So by the same token asking him now, a couple of months on if he wants to reassess the situation shouldn't be seen as unfair. His question was how many games is enough to evaluate a player?

I would suggest that in this example that 12 games was too early in his City career to draw conclusions on.

There were other posters on the thread who were much more scathing and willing to right him of it's true to say, but I've referred to the poster who responded to my post that appealed for people to' cut him some slack' stating 'I'm sure he'll come good'

I read ''No disrespect' and seen that you've quoted a single line of my text.

I'll leave it there.

Don't think you meant to reply to me Beefy

[john@staustell]

Maybe the OP should edit to 'Don't drop Fernandinho'?

[bobby brows]

Maybe the OP should edit to 'Don't drop Fernandinho'?

I thought he was excellent yesterday. Glad to be very wrong about him. He's really stepped up his game.

[Breks]

I thought he was excellent yesterday. Glad to be very wrong about him. He's really stepped up his game.

Too many knee Jerk reactions on here. New playeis always need a bit of time to get upto speed with the premier league. Top class player and Scolari should select him for his world cup squad.

[Twobob]

Too many knee Jerk reactions on here. New playeis always need a bit of time to get upto speed with the premier league. Top class player and Scolari should select him for his world cup squad.

Simple thing to say with hindsight and we're all guilty of it, especially those that haven't seen much of the Ukrainian league.

The Newcastle home game at the start of the season was probably just too easy too, he looked awesome in that game and so did Navas but then both started to struggle as we came against stronger teams - only to be expected but the first performance was so good it set them on a bit of a pedestal that wasn't a true reflection of their adaption to the premier league, and with Ferdi a slightly different role.

Now they're both getting the swing of things and looking brilliant.

[Breks]

Simple thing to say with hindsight and we're all guilty of it, especially those that haven't seen much of the Ukrainian league.

The Newcastle home game at the start of the season was probably just too easy too, he looked awesome in that game and so did Navas but then both started to struggle as we came against stronger teams - only to be expected but the first performance was so good it set them on a bit of a pedestal that wasn't a true reflection of their adaption to the premier league, and with Ferdi a slightly different role.

Now they're both getting the swing of things and looking brilliant.

I'm not guilty of it. I always give new players and managers time.

[Twobob]

I'm not guilty of it. I always give new players and managers time.

No worries, didn't spot the halo

[Original Dub]

I'm not guilty of it. I always give new players and managers time.

How much time will you give joe hart?

[Nick]

class. end of.