Dzeko whinging to the Chairman.

[aaron bond]

If Dzeko can't see the performances of Negredo and Aguero and realise why he's on the bench at the mo, then he really doesn't have a clue.

[john@staustell]

When he comes on he's shite so as far as I'm concerned he can fuck off in January. We need a better 3rd striker anyway.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Sparty,

What you say so categorically may well be true, but it is grossly unjust to make such specific accusations against someone's character without bringing evidence to the table.

We complain bitterly when the media do such things and it seems only proper that we don't fall into the media's bad habits.

I would be very interested to see such evidence.

This.

With all due Sparty your post reads like one of them attention seeking 'itk' knobs on Bluemoan wrote it.

[Im_Spartacus]

This.

With all due Sparty your post reads like one of them attention seeking 'itk' knobs on Bluemoan wrote it.

Take it how you want to mate. I won't jeapordise the person at the club who gave the information by posting publicly exactly how they know this just to validate the information for you benefit.

What I will say is that it was said with no spite or malice, just a general conversation about the differing approaches to management that pellegrini and Mancini have.

Besides, would it make it any more or less true if it was in a newspaper?

Because it seems that some of you would prefer to believe in speculation, than a concrete fact of what happened between the players and Mancini.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

This.

With all due Sparty your post reads like one of them attention seeking 'itk' knobs on Bluemoan wrote it.

Take it how you want to mate. I won't jeapordise the person at the club who gave the information by posting publicly exactly how they know this just to validate the information for you benefit.

What I will say is that it was said with no spite or malice, just a general conversation about the differing approaches to management that pellegrini and Mancini have.

Besides, would it make it any more or less true if it was in a newspaper?

Because it seems that some of you would prefer to believe in speculation, than a concrete fact of what happened between the players and Mancini.

Of course you won't, that is the standard line given by those who claim to be 'itk'. It's not just for my benefit, it's the benefit of City fans the world over to know the truth when they see the name of the man who brought the club's first trophy in 35 years being sullied with unsubstantiated claims.

If it was in the newspaper? It was in the newspapers mate but again I took it with a large pinch of salt because like your information it's completely unsubstantiated.

[Im_Spartacus]

Of course you won't, that is the standard line given by those who claim to be 'itk'. It's not just for my benefit, it's the benefit of City fans the world over to know the truth when they see the name of the man who brought the club's first trophy in 35 years being sullied with unsubstantiated claims.

If it was in the newspaper? It was in the newspapers mate but again I took it with a large pinch of salt because like your information it's completely unsubstantiated.

Give your fucking head a wobble feller

There were many witnesses to the incidents I mentioned above, hence I don't mind saying that they happened, but I'm fucked if I will put somebody's job at risk because that person can very easily be identified if I describe what their role is at the club.

Are you really so fucking selfish that you think I would just reveal the source on a public message board just to gratify you?

Most of the information passed on would have you pissing your sides at the stupidity of footballers, like Joe Hart boarding a plane to the USA on holiday this summer without a visa (because he thought the visa city had arranged on the post season tour was valid) and being put on the next plane back on arrival.

I'd have to have a pretty fucking vivid imagination to make that one up wouldn't I?

But 99.9% of these stories never made the press because the club is actually quite good at controlling their publicity these days.

Just because they don't make the press doesn't mean that they didn't happen!

[Ted Hughes]

I don't see any reason to accuse Spartacus of lying.

And why would him naming a source make any difference ? If he was lying, he could just make up a name for whoever told him the info anyway & none of you would know any different.

[Cocacolajojo1]

Mancini has been "sullied" in drama since his playing days. I wrote an article about him for the Swedish supporter's branch when he came and I wrote something along the lines of "a manager [Hughes] that came to divide the fans has been replaced by a manager that definitely will split the supporters [Mancini]. Mancini doesn't heal any wounds and he doesn't build bridges. The question is not if there will be scandals, the question is when."

At the time of his arrival to us he was still involved in law suits against supporters of Fiorentina, suits that originated from his managerial days at the club.
There's the incident when Inter lost to Valencia in the quarter final in the CL and there was a fight between the players and Mancini's reaction was not to stop the fight but to stop the photographers.
During his Inter days he sought to create chaos, because he seems to believe that teams thrive during uncertain conditions.
THere's the incident when he quit his job in the live post-match conference after Inter's loss against Liverpool in the quarter finals of the CL. I mean who does that?

As far as I could see from reading newspapers, talking to fans from Lazio, Fiorentina and Inter as well as the stuff I knew from interviews with Sven Göran Eriksson in the press, Mancini has bowed to two people in his entire career: Sven Göran Eriksson and Moratti (see the CL incident above). Otherwise he refuses to do anything in another way than his.

He has an enormous ego. He's obviously no more mature than the average ten year old.

I have no problems believing what Sparty writes. If I told it to anyone else I wouldn't report is at fact but a rumour. But the important thing is that the information is NOT at conflict with Mancini's history. It's completely coherent.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Mancini has been "sullied" in drama since his playing days. I wrote an article about him for the Swedish supporter's branch when he came and I wrote something along the lines of "a manager [Hughes] that came to divide the fans has been replaced by a manager that definitely will split the supporters [Mancini]. Mancini doesn't heal any wounds and he doesn't build bridges. The question is not if there will be scandals, the question is when."

At the time of his arrival to us he was still involved in law suits against supporters of Fiorentina, suits that originated from his managerial days at the club.
There's the incident when Inter lost to Valencia in the quarter final in the CL and there was a fight between the players and Mancini's reaction was not to stop the fight but to stop the photographers.
During his Inter days he sought to create chaos, because he seems to believe that teams thrive during uncertain conditions.
THere's the incident when he quit his job in the live post-match conference after Inter's loss against Liverpool in the quarter finals of the CL. I mean who does that?

As far as I could see from reading newspapers, talking to fans from Lazio, Fiorentina and Inter as well as the stuff I knew from interviews with Sven Göran Eriksson in the press, Mancini has bowed to two people in his entire career: Sven Göran Eriksson and Moratti (see the CL incident above). Otherwise he refuses to do anything in another way than his.

He has an enormous ego. He's obviously no more mature than the average ten year old.

I have no problems believing what Sparty writes. If I told it to anyone else I wouldn't report is at fact but a rumour. But the important thing is that the information is NOT at conflict with Mancini's history. It's completely coherent.

Exactly the issue I have. It's spoken as fact with nothing to back it up.

[Sideshow Bob]

Mancini has been "sullied" in drama since his playing days. I wrote an article about him for the Swedish supporter's branch when he came and I wrote something along the lines of "a manager [Hughes] that came to divide the fans has been replaced by a manager that definitely will split the supporters [Mancini]. Mancini doesn't heal any wounds and he doesn't build bridges. The question is not if there will be scandals, the question is when."

At the time of his arrival to us he was still involved in law suits against supporters of Fiorentina, suits that originated from his managerial days at the club.
There's the incident when Inter lost to Valencia in the quarter final in the CL and there was a fight between the players and Mancini's reaction was not to stop the fight but to stop the photographers.
During his Inter days he sought to create chaos, because he seems to believe that teams thrive during uncertain conditions.
THere's the incident when he quit his job in the live post-match conference after Inter's loss against Liverpool in the quarter finals of the CL. I mean who does that?

As far as I could see from reading newspapers, talking to fans from Lazio, Fiorentina and Inter as well as the stuff I knew from interviews with Sven Göran Eriksson in the press, Mancini has bowed to two people in his entire career: Sven Göran Eriksson and Moratti (see the CL incident above). Otherwise he refuses to do anything in another way than his.

He has an enormous ego. He's obviously no more mature than the average ten year old.

I have no problems believing what Sparty writes. If I told it to anyone else I wouldn't report is at fact but a rumour. But the important thing is that the information is NOT at conflict with Mancini's history. It's completely coherent.

Excellent post.

[Original Dub]

Excellent post.

Agreed

[Dameerto]

Mancini has been "sullied" in drama since his playing days. I wrote an article about him for the Swedish supporter's branch when he came and I wrote something along the lines of "a manager [Hughes] that came to divide the fans has been replaced by a manager that definitely will split the supporters [Mancini]. Mancini doesn't heal any wounds and he doesn't build bridges. The question is not if there will be scandals, the question is when."

At the time of his arrival to us he was still involved in law suits against supporters of Fiorentina, suits that originated from his managerial days at the club.
There's the incident when Inter lost to Valencia in the quarter final in the CL and there was a fight between the players and Mancini's reaction was not to stop the fight but to stop the photographers.
During his Inter days he sought to create chaos, because he seems to believe that teams thrive during uncertain conditions.
THere's the incident when he quit his job in the live post-match conference after Inter's loss against Liverpool in the quarter finals of the CL. I mean who does that?

As far as I could see from reading newspapers, talking to fans from Lazio, Fiorentina and Inter as well as the stuff I knew from interviews with Sven Göran Eriksson in the press, Mancini has bowed to two people in his entire career: Sven Göran Eriksson and Moratti (see the CL incident above). Otherwise he refuses to do anything in another way than his.

He has an enormous ego. He's obviously no more mature than the average ten year old.

I have no problems believing what Sparty writes. If I told it to anyone else I wouldn't report is at fact but a rumour. But the important thing is that the information is NOT at conflict with Mancini's history. It's completely coherent.

False forward.

[nottsblue]

Mancini has been "sullied" in drama since his playing days. I wrote an article about him for the Swedish supporter's branch when he came and I wrote something along the lines of "a manager [Hughes] that came to divide the fans has been replaced by a manager that definitely will split the supporters [Mancini]. Mancini doesn't heal any wounds and he doesn't build bridges. The question is not if there will be scandals, the question is when."

At the time of his arrival to us he was still involved in law suits against supporters of Fiorentina, suits that originated from his managerial days at the club.
There's the incident when Inter lost to Valencia in the quarter final in the CL and there was a fight between the players and Mancini's reaction was not to stop the fight but to stop the photographers.
During his Inter days he sought to create chaos, because he seems to believe that teams thrive during uncertain conditions.
THere's the incident when he quit his job in the live post-match conference after Inter's loss against Liverpool in the quarter finals of the CL. I mean who does that?

As far as I could see from reading newspapers, talking to fans from Lazio, Fiorentina and Inter as well as the stuff I knew from interviews with Sven Göran Eriksson in the press, Mancini has bowed to two people in his entire career: Sven Göran Eriksson and Moratti (see the CL incident above). Otherwise he refuses to do anything in another way than his.

He has an enormous ego. He's obviously no more mature than the average ten year old.

I have no problems believing what Sparty writes. If I told it to anyone else I wouldn't report is at fact but a rumour. But the important thing is that the information is NOT at conflict with Mancini's history. It's completely coherent.

Great post.
More and more snippets about Mancini are going to surface. Not all will be true but from the sounds of it a lot probably will be and it won't paint him in a good light. It doesn't really matter though as he is no longer employed. I just don't like to see clubs name tarnished

[Im_Spartacus]

Exactly the issue I have. It's spoken as fact with nothing to back it up.

What do you want? A tape recording?

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Exactly the issue I have. It's spoken as fact with nothing to back it up.

What do you want? A tape recording?

I'm hardly going to take as gospel some hearsay that I've read on a forum am I? Give your head a wobble.

[zuricity]

I'm hardly going to take as gospel some hearsay that I've read on a forum am I? Give your head a wobble.

Am i interpreting this all correctly , two City fans on a website, one writing for a Swedish group are more correct in their assertions than others on here who also offer their opinions up ?

If Roberto Mancini split the city fans, the city fans constantly singing his name and it often was most of the Etihad , were split ,were they?

Have we heard the crowd sing a song for Pellegrini yet ? Do we have a song for him ?

I was shocked when we sacked Roberto and i'm not against Pellegrini, not at all, but i don't think for one minute that Pellegrini has won the crowd over, not at all. Indeed, i don't think Roberto would have let the games at Cardiff and Villa slip the way they did.

This squad is more than competent, experienced and capable of winning the PL, yet we now finding ourselves playing catchup. Let's be honest any number of managers could have got this squad into the last 16 of the CL. It's the PL that matters., all else is icing on the cake.

[Cocacolajojo1]

I'm hardly going to take as gospel some hearsay that I've read on a forum am I? Give your head a wobble.

Am i interpreting this all correctly , two City fans on a website, one writing for a Swedish group are more correct in their assertions than others on here who also offer their opinions up ?

If your inerpretation is that two fans on a forum are more correct than others writing on an internet forum, then you are entitled to that interpretation. :)

[zuricity]

If your inerpretation is that two fans on a forum are more correct than others writing on an internet forum, then you are entitled to that interpretation. :)

No not saying i am anymore correct than anyone else. I really doubt that anyone on this board will know about internal workings, business decisions etc. However, having been able to get to many games when Mancini was manager, i couldn't help notice how the crowd in the stadium seemed to enjoy singing his name. I often got the impression it was the majority of the crowd. This website in no way reflects the thoughts and opinions of most city fans because they don't all log in and make comments. It would be fantastic if that was the case, it would certainly water down the percentage of comments numbers.

[john68]

I consider that the "Nobody liked him" card is both a little overplayed and mostly irrelevant to the issue of how players do their jobs.

A player is a worker who is employed to do a job of work...it really is as simple as that. If he doesn't like his boss, it puts him in exactly the same place as many many millions of other workers, who each day get up and go to work, doing a job they hate, for a company they don't like, for a boss they can't stand. They get their wages and no thanks for their efforts.

It's the way the World is and has been for many thousands of years...It's called life and most people get on with it and do their best. That is called professionalism.

If Edin Dzeko has a reason to complain, then he has every right to do so, but he has no right to do a lesser job for the money he is earning...That is called responsibility.

Footballers earn £Ms each week, whilst most of the rest of us are stuck with..."Fuck, bollox, shit, bastard," dragging their arses out of bed to go to work for relative peanuts, in conditions they would rather not be in.

GET FUCKIN REAL. If they can't be arsed to do a proper job for their megabucks, then they can fuck off.

[Cocacolajojo1]

If your inerpretation is that two fans on a forum are more correct than others writing on an internet forum, then you are entitled to that interpretation. :)

No not saying i am anymore correct than anyone else. I really doubt that anyone on this board will know about internal workings, business decisions etc. However, having been able to get to many games when Mancini was manager, i couldn't help notice how the crowd in the stadium seemed to enjoy singing his name. I often got the impression it was the majority of the crowd. This website in no way reflects the thoughts and opinions of most city fans because they don't all log in and make comments. It would be fantastic if that was the case, it would certainly water down the percentage of comments numbers.

I get your point mate and I don't even think you had to go see City live to realize there was a large contingent amongst the fans who backed him and I was one of them. When the Mancini chants were heard over the Live broadcast from the away game at Fulham in 2010 it was a relief to hear.

But that observation is not at odds with the observation that there were also a lot of fans who detested the football we played and detested Mancini's style, at least as it was portrayed in the media. I'm not saying they didn't enjoy the trophies and that, just that they weren't happy with Mancini in general. There can be a large portion of dissatisfied supporters at the same time as there's a majority of supporters that backed Mancini. And that's how he is. He stirs up emotions. He always have, he always will. And he's no idiot when it comes to playing the media.

And I should add that I love Mancini. He made Ibra (my favourite player) what he is today during his time with him at Inter and he gave us a cup and a league trophy. But you can't paint over the cracks in his managerial style. I honestly don't think he even wants that or even cares at times. He is what he is and our footballing experience would be poorer without him. Regardless of whether or not Sparty's story is true.