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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:25 am

DoomMerchant wrote:One thing antii has dead right is that pellers is a gunslinger who will win or lose. None of these draws. How will that philosophy fare for city? I'm anxious to find out.


And wasn't that the point of this topic. Typical Pellegrini. Either really good or really shite.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:30 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:So is nqdp highly dissatisfied or dies he enjoy being right too much?

Wait wrong thread. My bad.


Shit.
I'm still strugling to see what I would have been right about.

No need to try to brownnose the snotty kid crew.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:06 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote: Shit. I'm still strugling to see what I would have been right about. No need to try to brownnose the snotty kid crew.


More free time? Will it last through some good games?

Nothing worse than one of our own rubbing their hands in glee to showboat after a loss.

Considering you are the 1st to pull the biggest blue/hate all rags forever na na na card, it's even harder to stomach.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby ant london » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:28 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote: Shit. I'm still strugling to see what I would have been right about. No need to try to brownnose the snotty kid crew.


More free time? Will it last through some good games?

Nothing worse than one of our own rubbing their hands in glee to showboat after a loss.

Considering you are the 1st to pull the biggest blue/hate all rags forever na na na card, it's even harder to stomach.



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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:06 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote: Shit. I'm still strugling to see what I would have been right about. No need to try to brownnose the snotty kid crew.


More free time? Will it last through some good games?

Nothing worse than one of our own rubbing their hands in glee to showboat after a loss.
Considering you are the 1st to pull the biggest blue/hate all rags forever na na na card, it's even harder to stomach.



What do you mean by that? What made you think that I'm happy for a loss? I'm fucking pissed off. And did I predict that Pellegrini would be like this? No I never did. Have I asked for his head once? Being sceptical about any other part of him than his lack of winning pedigree? No. So I'm still struggling to see what I "proved" by anything.

Pellegrini is up and down with his performances. He clearly likes to gamble and take risks and sometimes the outcome is glorious and other times utter shite. I think he will struggle to win titles with that approach but I think we will enjoy some fantastic performances.

Like I said, don't let the snotty punks screw with your head. Oh, and why are they not asking where I was after Chelsea? THAT was the REAL fuck up for ages. You know these guys, they know square root of fuck all about football and are only here for a slanging contest. You know that full well. You are a decent lad overall and I'd hate to see you start brownnosing these fools who have NEVER EVER, regardless of situation, held decent football discussion.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby BlueinBosnia » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:33 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Like I said, don't let the snotty punks screw with your head. Oh, and why are they not asking where I was after Chelsea?



BlueinBosnia wrote:Very odd for the most prolific poster on the board (with approximately 15% more posts than the next-highest-poster) to not bother posting about 2 league wins, 2 CL wins (one of which saw us progress through the group stages with 2 games to spare), a LC win and a defeat against one of our main challengers...


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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:35 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote: What do you mean by that? What made you think that I'm happy for a loss? I'm fucking pissed off. And did I predict that Pellegrini would be like this? No I never did. Have I asked for his head once? Being sceptical about any other part of him than his lack of winning pedigree? No. So I'm still struggling to see what I "proved" by anything. Pellegrini is up and down with his performances. He clearly likes to gamble and take risks and sometimes the outcome is glorious and other times utter shite. I think he will struggle to win titles with that approach but I think we will enjoy some fantastic performances. Like I said, don't let the snotty punks screw with your head. Oh, and why are they not asking where I was after Chelsea? THAT was the REAL fuck up for ages. You know these guys, they know square root of fuck all about football and are only here for a slanging contest. You know that full well. You are a decent lad overall and I'd hate to see you start brownnosing these fools who have NEVER EVER, regardless of situation, held decent football discussion.


I'm as pissed off as you are about those losses and I could give a fuck what anyone thinks of me. Shit nearly 10k posts without having more than 2 or 3 mates on here should prove that.

Do I think you're happy when we lose? Not exactly. Do I think you're a real blue? 100%. Do I think you come across really poorly and waaaaay too smug when you have half a point? Yep.

I'm not interested in joining any clique, but when you miraculously pop up at a head in hands moment and post more than you have in the month prior you of all people should expect some angry reactions. Poking miserable bears after we lose. You of all people should know that, as correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always had you pegged as one like me, who is miserable as fuck after any loss to any team.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:07 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote: What do you mean by that? What made you think that I'm happy for a loss? I'm fucking pissed off. And did I predict that Pellegrini would be like this? No I never did. Have I asked for his head once? Being sceptical about any other part of him than his lack of winning pedigree? No. So I'm still struggling to see what I "proved" by anything. Pellegrini is up and down with his performances. He clearly likes to gamble and take risks and sometimes the outcome is glorious and other times utter shite. I think he will struggle to win titles with that approach but I think we will enjoy some fantastic performances. Like I said, don't let the snotty punks screw with your head. Oh, and why are they not asking where I was after Chelsea? THAT was the REAL fuck up for ages. You know these guys, they know square root of fuck all about football and are only here for a slanging contest. You know that full well. You are a decent lad overall and I'd hate to see you start brownnosing these fools who have NEVER EVER, regardless of situation, held decent football discussion.


I'm as pissed off as you are about those losses and I could give a fuck what anyone thinks of me. Shit nearly 10k posts without having more than 2 or 3 mates on here should prove that.

Do I think you're happy when we lose? Not exactly. Do I think you're a real blue? 100%. Do I think you come across really poorly and waaaaay too smug when you have half a point? Yep.

I'm not interested in joining any clique, but when you miraculously pop up at a head in hands moment and post more than you have in the month prior you of all people should expect some angry reactions. Poking miserable bears after we lose. You of all people should know that, as correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always had you pegged as one like me, who is miserable as fuck after any loss to any team.


That's all fair. Although I HAVE been dead busy at a new job AND I got a promotion almost immediately at the new job.

But I reitarate, I wasn't trying to prove any point. I don't think I've made any points that Pellegrini's performance as a manager has proved. And god knows, I'd be first to let everyone know if I was right about something.

The point was to raise discussion whether this rollercoaster stuff is "typical Pellegrini". It certainly is starting to seem it is.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Original Dub » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:55 pm

I'm still trying to figure out why there was another Pellegrini thread made when there was already one on the board?

Straight after a bad performance?

With a full stop as the input? From a guy who looks down on others and their ability to debate football to his "high" standards?

Antii, this thread is like countless other threads you've started over the years. It was here to provoke, because that's how you take your anger out after a defeat. You can lie and say it was purely to discuss the manager, but you know full well there is another thread.

Now, if ever you want to try to disect my understanding of football, feel free.

If I don't have a clue, I'll be shown up pretty quickly... go for it.

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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby MilnersJaw » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:43 pm

It was annoying to lose but this is what bottom teams do, they put 10 pricks behind the ball. Even barca have this problem.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:07 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:It was annoying to lose but this is what bottom teams do, they put 10 pricks behind the ball. Even barca have this problem.


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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Socrates » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:37 am

The sooner people accept that he's basically Kevin Keegan with a tan, and that we are in for a long rollercoaster ride, the better. My expectations for some hugely exciting games are high, my expectations for trophies are rather lower.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby mcfc1632 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:16 am

This post perhaps should be in the tactics thread - but I have to say that 'in principle' I quite like the way the manager has us lined up for games - I see the problems as a bit more than 'we should not play 442 away from home'.

We generally play with 2 strikers when we play at home. Teams come to defend and we can afford to play two strikers - giving us more chance to break them down - even against the 'better teams' - supposedly like the scum - we played with 2. I endorse that we do this away as well as the situation should be largely the same - lower teams pack the defence and if they come at us 'toe to toe' then we should always win a 'shoot out'. At the really tough places - like Chelsea - we play with 1 striker, that is sensible and pragmatic. The only time that he has got it badly wrong was against BM when he stuck to his principles when perhaps we should have taken the 'Chelsea away' approach.

So in principle I agree with him - fuck going 451 at Sunderland, Palace etc - do that after we have scored a couple.

One of the problems for me is to do with the mindset of the players and staff (including Pellergrini) with regard to the effort required to beat the smaller clubs - this is not Spain!!! The best (worst) example for me was Cardiff - when we scored at last you could just feel the collective relief of the team and the collective sagging of effort, it was an attitude of now we have scored that is it - we became complacent and arrogant. Then we start trying again when 3 - 1 down. No PL team simply throws in the towel - this is not Spain!! Pellergrini should be in the faces of players at the first hint of relaxation and sub them for someone that will put the effort in - he needs to learn this lesson - not give too much credit to teams by playing the wrong formation.

Another issue is the woeful individual performances that we have seen from so many players and the lack of collective team effort apart from for the 'big games'. Not just Hart (but he has had his head so far up his arse), not just Edin (although compared to the beast his personal workrate is shocking), but Glichy, Lescott (when given a chance he only confirms why he cannot be 1st choice) and others. Fuck me and then there is Micah - all enthusiasm no football brain.

Then we get key injuries, Komps, Silva and now Fernandinho who was just starting to get tackling into his game and looking like a real player.

I can forgive Pellergrini for expecting that his squad players can do a real job when called upon - they have generally let him down. I will be disappointed if he does not learn who can be relied upon and who cannot and select accordingly. Most importantly he needs to get them fired up from the start of the game no matter the opposition and only relax after we are 3 or 4 up.

For me - sort out the attitudes on this - including his own!!!
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Original Dub » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:40 am

Socrates wrote:The sooner people accept that he's basically Kevin Keegan with a tan, and that we are in for a long rollercoaster ride, the better. My expectations for some hugely exciting games are high, my expectations for trophies are rather lower.


And the other one appears.


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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby dick dastardley » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:45 am

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Yaya Toure is a LAD wrote:We. Miss. Silva.


The pedigree we have in our squad we should not have the need to rely on silva or komps to brush aside teams like cardiff or sunderland.


didnt kompany play against villa?
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:24 am

Socrates wrote:The sooner people accept that he's basically Kevin Keegan with a tan, and that we are in for a long rollercoaster ride, the better. My expectations for some hugely exciting games are high, my expectations for trophies are rather lower.

This time last year we were out of two cups already...
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Original Dub » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:37 am

Don't bother mate, there are one or two on this board with an agenda and that agenda is more important than anything else, which is evident to everyone.

Don't get me wrong, there are also quite a few who are concerned for many different reasons and they have every right to be. I'm concerned myself and I've given the reasons why plenty of times.

It's the smugness when we lose. It's disturbing.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:37 am

Original Dub wrote:Don't bother mate, there are one or two on this board with an agenda and that agenda is more important than anything else, which is evident to everyone.

Don't get me wrong, there are also quite a few who are concerned for many different reasons and they have every right to be. I'm concerned myself and I've given the reasons why plenty of times.

It's the smugness when we lose. It's disturbing.


Obviously we needed another thread for you to tell everyone your concerns.

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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby Original Dub » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:52 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Don't bother mate, there are one or two on this board with an agenda and that agenda is more important than anything else, which is evident to everyone.

Don't get me wrong, there are also quite a few who are concerned for many different reasons and they have every right to be. I'm concerned myself and I've given the reasons why plenty of times.

It's the smugness when we lose. It's disturbing.


Obviously we needed another thread for you to tell everyone your concerns.

You top top Blue.


Top top blue?

You're the fucking idiot that goes on like you have rags in your face on a daily basis.

You live in fucking Finland. Pipe down.
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Re: Typical Pellegrini

Postby MilnersJaw » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:05 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
We lost because your name sake fucked up.


And what was your name sake doing? Sat on his arse with a beer.
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