Richards- fat or muscle?

[Wooders]

I think he does need to tone down a little to get that extra half yard of pace - he's also a bit ring rusty - so in time we'll get the old micah back i am sure - i'm hoping he'll stop the diving tho

[lets all have a disco]

He is just nitro jacked,SWOL,pump ripped,set pumped,hotter than the desert bigger than the ocean.

Etc etc.

Less shakes,more running needed.

Shake-ist twat....

Shhhhhhhhhh chicken and veg.

Just sayin.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

@mcfc1632

In regards that goal at Sunderland, are you honestly trying to tell me that Micah is that stupid that he just happened to be wandering around the halfway line for no good reason when Brown played the ball to Bardsley? I know Micah is not the brightest but come on mate that's just ludicrous.

[Herb]

he has a duck arse.

That's a terrible thing to say MJ. . . but true. pmsl

[Blue Since 76]

I saw that one on the been as well. It was a good watch!

Markmark's dad was in it as well!

Was he the one who looked after Micah when he was young? Seemed odd that even a kid from Manchester was moved into a club house.

[mcfc1632]

@mcfc1632

In regards that goal at Sunderland, are you honestly trying to tell me that Micah is that stupid that he just happened to be wandering around the halfway line for no good reason when Brown played the ball to Bardsley? I know Micah is not the brightest but come on mate that's just ludicrous.

Of course I was being a bit tongue in cheek!

But what I would say - just my opinion - is that Micah has simply no football intelligence and seemingly is incapable of playing in a 'formation' and doing his role

What most annoys me - as for years - is that he has become a world class jogger. He gets hopelessly out of position up the field - OK that can happen - but makes only lazy effort at getting back - in fact forget that - he hardly ever does get back.

He needs to understand that there is a clue in the name of his position - RIGHT BACK - that means he should be vaguely in that area for some of the game - certainly more than just the start of the 1st and 2nd halves - and when we are kicking off again because we have conceded from our right side.

[Im_Spartacus]

Was he the one who looked after Micah when he was young? Seemed odd that even a kid from Manchester was moved into a club house.

He's from Leeds

[Slim]

Was he the one who looked after Micah when he was young? Seemed odd that even a kid from Manchester was moved into a club house.

He's from Leeds

Is he fuck, he's from Birmingham.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Is he fuck, he's from Birmingham.

I always thought oldham or is that who we bought him from?

[Ted Hughes]

@mcfc1632

In regards that goal at Sunderland, are you honestly trying to tell me that Micah is that stupid that he just happened to be wandering around the halfway line for no good reason when Brown played the ball to Bardsley? I know Micah is not the brightest but come on mate that's just ludicrous.

Of course I was being a bit tongue in cheek!

But what I would say - just my opinion - is that Micah has simply no football intelligence and seemingly is incapable of playing in a 'formation' and doing his role

What most annoys me - as for years - is that he has become a world class jogger. He gets hopelessly out of position up the field - OK that can happen - but makes only lazy effort at getting back - in fact forget that - he hardly ever does get back.

He needs to understand that there is a clue in the name of his position - RIGHT BACK - that means he should be vaguely in that area for some of the game - certainly more than just the start of the 1st and 2nd halves - and when we are kicking off again because we have conceded from our right side.

He's a centre half who has been put out at fullback. If Kompany or any of our other cbs were asked to sprint 80 yards forward then leg it back time & again, they wouldn't be able to; they would be much worse than Micah at it (Kolarov is, & he's a fullback). I recon you'd get about one per game out of Vinny in that job.

If we want a great big unit like Richards marauding forward up the pitch, then we have to have cover for him, as we did at Sunderland, because he won't always make it back & if he does, he'll be too knackered to keep go forward again. He isn't built for that & we have to cover it.

No point blaming him when the cover is shit, as it was at Sunderland. They are detailed to look after that area when Micah goes up. There were two of them on one player. Micah would have made three, which would have left his man (AJ) unmarked.

It was Bardsley, a fullback, Milner's man, not Messi. They fucked up a routine defending job.

[Slim]

Is he fuck, he's from Birmingham.

I always thought oldham or is that who we bought him from?

There is this thing, this wonderful thing called the internet. The internet is a wonderful tool used for gathering information(and porn) into a collective wealth of knowledge(and porn) one can access almost instantaneously on almost any subject they wish to inquire upon.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

There is this thing, this wonderful thing called the internet. The internet is a wonderful tool used for gathering information(and porn) into a collective wealth of knowledge(and porn) one can access almost instantaneously on almost any subject they wish to inquire upon.

And to think you could quite easily have just typed "yep" and been done with it

[Slim]

There is this thing, this wonderful thing called the internet. The internet is a wonderful tool used for gathering information(and porn) into a collective wealth of knowledge(and porn) one can access almost instantaneously on almost any subject they wish to inquire upon.

And to think you could quite easily have just typed "yep" and been done with it

And in less time than either of your posts you could have easily searched Wikipedia for the information.

[Blue Since 76]

He's from Leeds

I meant the kid on the programme, O'Brien, who was from somewhere in Manchester according to the programme, but they moved him into the same house where Micah was as a kid.

[mcfc1632]

@mcfc1632

In regards that goal at Sunderland, are you honestly trying to tell me that Micah is that stupid that he just happened to be wandering around the halfway line for no good reason when Brown played the ball to Bardsley? I know Micah is not the brightest but come on mate that's just ludicrous.

Of course I was being a bit tongue in cheek!

But what I would say - just my opinion - is that Micah has simply no football intelligence and seemingly is incapable of playing in a 'formation' and doing his role

What most annoys me - as for years - is that he has become a world class jogger. He gets hopelessly out of position up the field - OK that can happen - but makes only lazy effort at getting back - in fact forget that - he hardly ever does get back.

He needs to understand that there is a clue in the name of his position - RIGHT BACK - that means he should be vaguely in that area for some of the game - certainly more than just the start of the 1st and 2nd halves - and when we are kicking off again because we have conceded from our right side.

He's a centre half who has been put out at fullback. If Kompany or any of our other cbs were asked to sprint 80 yards forward then leg it back time & again, they wouldn't be able to; they would be much worse than Micah at it (Kolarov is, & he's a fullback). I recon you'd get about one per game out of Vinny in that job.

If we want a great big unit like Richards marauding forward up the pitch, then we have to have cover for him, as we did at Sunderland, because he won't always make it back & if he does, he'll be too knackered to keep go forward again. He isn't built for that & we have to cover it.

No point blaming him when the cover is shit, as it was at Sunderland. They are detailed to look after that area when Micah goes up. There were two of them on one player. Micah would have made three, which would have left his man (AJ) unmarked.

It was Bardsley, a fullback, Milner's man, not Messi. They fucked up a routine defending job.

Ted - we all have different views about players - I am clearly in a minority re Nasti as I believe he is very good now and will be a TOP player in the coming years - I recognise others would think me mad.

Equally Micah has lots of fans - I do not understand why apart from him being a youth product etc - nostalgia?. If the Nasti detractors were to give the same level of scrutiny to Micah as they do to Nasti - I think that it would be very illuminating.

So I happen think that he is no more than a very limited squad player and a general liability as he is devoid of a football brain. I will not change that view by comments from others on the forum - no matter how I generally respect their views on most things CITY. Same way I do not expect others to change their view on Nasti

Re the points you make:

"He's a centre half who has been put out at fullback..."

Disagree - he has not been a CB for ages apart as cover in exceptional/less important games - because his lack of a football brain found him out - so he was put to RB - where he might be able to develop....... Then in recent years he has not progressed - and as we have become more capable all over the park he is majorly exposed as very limited - but CB for us nowadays - no chance (IMO)

" Kompany or any of our other cbs were asked to sprint 80 yards forward then leg it back time & again, they wouldn't be able to..."

Understand what you are saying but this for me just sounds like a way of making a positive argument for him. I agree, do not play Lescott, Kompany, etc at RB - as you would not also play Richard Dunnne, John Terry etc at RB - Ivanovic is a rare exception of someone that can play in both roles.

Two - wrongs don't make a right!! Equally one example of stupidity does not excuse another.

Also - I do not agree with your comments that others should be providing cover - well of course that is right but the principle of cover is supposed to be for when a player is out of position occasionally - not 90% of the time. Sorry - I wish he had developed - but he has not (again IMO) - and gets further and further behind what is becoming CITY level quality

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Micah has played just 14 games since August of last year, kind of difficult to develop with such little time on the pitch.

Before this horrendous time with injury he was our first choice right back on merit. In the title winning season he started 23/38 league games, the games he missed were more often than not due to minor injuries ( which I'm sure you'll remember lead Mancini to refer to him as "crystalli" ). He was an integral part of our title winning side having developed into one of the best attacking full backs in the country.

I'll grant you at the moment he doesn't look anywhere near his best but to say he hasn't developed in recent years is well wide of the mark imo.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

And in less time than either of your posts you could have easily searched Wikipedia for the information.

And miss out on this kind of bonding?

Nah

[Moonchesteri]

Micah has played just 14 games since August of last year, kind of difficult to develop with such little time on the pitch.

Before this horrendous time with injury he was our first choice right back on merit. In the title winning season he started 23/38 league games, the games he missed were more often than not due to minor injuries ( which I'm sure you'll remember lead Mancini to refer to him as "crystalli" ). He was an integral part of our title winning side having developed into one of the best attacking full backs in the country.

I'll grant you at the moment he doesn't look anywhere near his best but to say he hasn't developed in recent years is well wide of the mark imo.

You said it pal. He was in top form in that title winning season (when fit). Right now he's far from that form but I'm sure it would help if he got a run of games again (Bayern? Leicester?).

But also the one who was mentioning his football brain or lack of is right imo and that's why I can't see him becoming a top class CB. for me he seems to switch off/lose concentration too often but I could be wrong as he already did very well there at a young age (v Henry of all people)

[mcfc1632]

Look - I do not want to seem like I am on a Micah witch hunt - I really am not - just wanting to share the views on him as posters do on Nasti and others

For me his CITY career has gone in stages along the lines:

1/ bright new thing bursting onto the scene when we were shit - we were delighted to have such a top prospect

2/ Got his big contract before the money game into CITY - and seemed to become the 'big I am' - and did not really develop his potential having 'peaked' when picked for England

3/ Was moved to RB because he did not have the positional sense to be a CB and was in that position when the money came in

4/ Was still No 1 when Zabba came in - but Zabba applied himself as an utter professional would and when he got his chance took it

5/ Micah then could not apply himself or improve his level to win the No 1 spot back - so had to get used to be a No 2 RB and general cover CB

6/ Now seems to feel the need to become important to the club and earn a new contract so when he gets his chance he strives to be the noticeable 'charging RB' - but forgets what the real job is about

7/ - Generally will be a victim of the circumstance that is our rise because he will not develop from this point to be a 1st choice anything - as many others in the CITY ranks will not either - just a hard fact of foot ball life at the top of the PL

IMO if he had have 'arrived' 5 years earlier he would have been a top player at CITY before moving to a 'TOP club'.

Had he been 5 years younger he would have not made his way into our 1st team from the academy - just as many other exciting prospects that will not make it into our 1st team because now the bar is set so much higher.

Just seeing it for what it is - and not being all misty-eyed. At the end of the day he has made a fortune without having to do very much - can retire in his mid-20s. No real need to get weepy for him - only wish him well.

I wish him well - I would be particularly delighted to find that he kicks on and becomes a top top player - but what evidence is there really that could happen?

[Foreverinbluedreams]

The evidence is as I've outlined above, his performance levels in that title winning season and the season previous, if you don't want to acknowledge that that's up to you.