Mikhail Chigorin wrote:I wonder if Fergiescum has anything to be worried about ??
Twobob wrote:
Or even Alardices lad who was investigated as part of the agent fees thing?
Its correct that this will open a pandoras box, maybe Rosie the dog has been busy? ;-)
Seems to have been lower league teams though so hopefully it isn't any PL club which could throw doubt on the rest, heard on the news that one ref has also been taken in.
Im_Spartacus wrote:Twobob wrote:
Or even Alardices lad who was investigated as part of the agent fees thing?
Its correct that this will open a pandoras box, maybe Rosie the dog has been busy? ;-)
Seems to have been lower league teams though so hopefully it isn't any PL club which could throw doubt on the rest, heard on the news that one ref has also been taken in.
Thing that makes me wonder is the bookies role in all this. If large sums started moving onto lower league teams in play, and bookies were consistently being done, why the fuck has it taken so long to spot the betting patterns?
Any large sum on any small team should be suspicious full stop
Tesl wrote:I think corruption is massive in general sport and also in football, but probably not big in the premier league just because it would be too expensive to do so. Players have no incentive to risk their careers and reputation on what would be effectively pennies to most of them.
Some referees make you wonder though. I think there *probably* isn't any corruption amongst them, but it wouldn't come as a massive shock if something was found for one or two of them.
Wonderwall wrote:Tesl wrote:I think corruption is massive in general sport and also in football, but probably not big in the premier league just because it would be too expensive to do so. Players have no incentive to risk their careers and reputation on what would be effectively pennies to most of them.
Some referees make you wonder though. I think there *probably* isn't any corruption amongst them, but it wouldn't come as a massive shock if something was found for one or two of them.
If you are leading a corrupt business venture which involves fixing of certain things in sport, you would immediately look at the weak and vulnerable areas. The players falling on bad times are one (Etherington for example as he was in a bad way and in debt to gambling, just like Keith Gillespie was). These type of players are the ones that would risk it to get themselves out of trouble and back into the black. Another would be poorly paid individuals, when I say poorly paid I mean in the grand scheme of things (referees). Especially where they are very high profile individuals in the game and are selected to referee across the world. I was told that a Premier league referee can expect to Gross around 60k a year, thats not a lot of money for the level of responsibility they have. IMO a referee could very easily fix a match without being noticed, pretty much the same as a cricket umpire, but there isnt the same money involved in that and the frequency of available games to fix is not the same.
Imagine a Ref on 60k a year being offers 100k to ensure a match goes one way, he could get 2 years wages (net) in one game. Anyone would be tempted by such sums in that situation.
Nigels Tackle wrote:
the bets aren't being laid in the uk
it's se asia, mainly singapore, where all the bets (are illegally) placed
Breks wrote:Anyone know which bookies? I'm skint I could do with a nice win.
nottsblue wrote:Most on field corruption is likely to be referees. An individual player has less scope to throw things unless 1: its the goalie 2: numerous players are in on it 3: bets are placed according to yellow/red cards. I dont believe numerous players would be in on it as it were as leaks would happen. Large money bet on cards would arouse suspicion. Goalies have been nobbled before and are the easiest target. Some of Joes howlers have aroused suspicion on here before. This leaves refs. How many decisions are wrongly made week in week out? Blatant ones as well that have people scratching their heads at how it was given/not given. As posted earlier their salaries,though large by the average fans standard, are low enough to be tempted by the alledged sums on offer. Also bribery doesnt have to be from betting syndicates. Surely the swamp dwellers have nobbled refs before. Plenty of instances of clubs bribing refs has come to light, especially in Italy. This i suspect is where true corruption lies, the hands of club chairmen
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:More arrests today - D J Campbell at Blackburn
Im_Spartacus wrote:Nigels Tackle wrote:
the bets aren't being laid in the uk
it's se asia, mainly singapore, where all the bets (are illegally) placed
It doesn't matter where they are being placed, the bookies must be fucking thick to accept them
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:More arrests today - D J Campbell at Blackburn
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